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Post by JStokes on Nov 6, 2016 21:46:09 GMT -5
Did you hear Forte after the game? He said they have issues in game and they can't even get them fixed in practice. That's on the coaching staff. Bowles keeps saying things are correctable but nothing gets corrected. No halftime adjustments? Coaching. I'm not saying Mac. But this team has massive issues. The QB is not on Mac... yet. He came in and there was no QB. Geno sucks. Fitz sucks too but had a good year last year. But nobody trusted Geno for good reason. I didn't want to sign Fitz anyway but it's hard to blame them. Now if Petty and / or Hack suck, well, Mac will have officially sealed his fate. Signing Mo? I think most of us wanted to resign him. Revis? I admit that I thought he was diminished last year but I didn't think he would be this bad. He is likely to get cut. That's on Revis for being out of shape too but I have to give Mac blame too. I just think that this coaching staff has let winnable games slip through their hands and that's on Bowles and his staff. Did Forte mention any specific problems? Just curious to know what the team thinks the problems are He said Photobucket was all fucked up, couldn't be fixed. _
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Post by fullblast on Nov 6, 2016 22:48:18 GMT -5
The Jets have been piss poor this season, but this may be the point where I've genuinely begun to detest them. Loser mentality from top to bottom with this organization. The most frustrating thing is as soon as the game is over the HC comes out to essentially say they aren't changing anything. Like, you've witnessed this shit product first hand week after week and your conclusion is to stay the course. I understand that you don't want to show your hand through the press but at least be noncommittal.
You have a QB who acts like he's owed something for putting up a 1:2 TD:INT ratio and a HC who is willing to put up with the same mistakes weekly from his players, his CS and himself. Then state that nothing is going to change. There is no pride within this organization. They don't give a shit about winning.
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Nov 7, 2016 2:02:28 GMT -5
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Post by shootmenow on Nov 7, 2016 2:02:28 GMT -5
This is about coaching... A-fucking-gain. So that means Woody... How do you fire an owner? We need someone with balls that can build a team from the top down. You should see how screwed up J&J is... and the woodster was too bad to be part of that disaster. Come on billionaires of the world, one of you must be competent enough to build a football team.
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Nov 7, 2016 2:29:10 GMT -5
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Post by Hotman on Nov 7, 2016 2:29:10 GMT -5
Nothing more to watch as long as they continue to run Shitz out there... Is Bowles really this fucking dumb?! I'm not watching anymore til hes gone Def possible most of us die soon tho anyways
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Post by crossfire on Nov 7, 2016 6:22:37 GMT -5
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Nov 7, 2016 6:58:31 GMT -5
Nothing more to watch as long as they continue to run Shitz out there... Is Bowles really this fucking dumb?! wHEN He was hired and it was announced and he was being interviewed, and had so little to say about his team and his coaching philosophy , I kept thinking "wow this guy's a got nothing to say, how can he coach a team, he can't be this dumb right? maybe he's just super quiet and holds everything close to the vest". looks like option onej, the first impression, was the right one (as usual)
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Post by crossfire on Nov 7, 2016 7:46:58 GMT -5
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Nov 7, 2016 8:14:42 GMT -5
Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Nov 7, 2016 8:14:42 GMT -5
Did you hear Forte after the game? He said they have issues in game and they can't even get them fixed in practice. That's on the coaching staff. Bowles keeps saying things are correctable but nothing gets corrected. No halftime adjustments? Coaching. I'm not saying Mac. But this team has massive issues. The QB is not on Mac... yet. He came in and there was no QB. Geno sucks. Fitz sucks too but had a good year last year. But nobody trusted Geno for good reason. I didn't want to sign Fitz anyway but it's hard to blame them. Now if Petty and / or Hack suck, well, Mac will have officially sealed his fate. Signing Mo? I think most of us wanted to resign him. Revis? I admit that I thought he was diminished last year but I didn't think he would be this bad. He is likely to get cut. That's on Revis for being out of shape too but I have to give Mac blame too. I just think that this coaching staff has let winnable games slip through their hands and that's on Bowles and his staff. Well I suppose this is the million dollar question, where do you draw the line on whether its on the players or the coaches? What if these players are incapable of bein taught, what if an element of them are just uncoachable? Or incapable of becoming better players? For me, you can't make an average guard block better who has already hit his ceiling, or make an average LB better in coverage if he just doesn't have the talent to do it consistently? How can you coach average to be better than they are or stop them busting a coverage or having communication issues if they just don't have the talent to do what you're asking of them? You effectively think Bowles should be gettin more out of the players by coaching them up, I think a large proportion of them are beyond bein coached up, they just aren't very good and all the trying in the world wont make an average player with an average skillet better. There's a serious lack of talent on this roster. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with the talent on this team. It's all about the coaching. We easily have one of the top-ten most talented rosters in the entire league.
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Nov 7, 2016 8:14:57 GMT -5
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Post by Harrier on Nov 7, 2016 8:14:57 GMT -5
Nothing more to watch as long as they continue to run Shitz out there... Is Bowles really this fucking dumb?! wHEN He was hired and it was announced and he was being interviewed, and had so little to say about his team and his coaching philosophy , I kept thinking "wow this guy's a got nothing to say, how can he coach a team, he can't be this dumb right? maybe he's just super quiet and holds everything close to the vest". looks like option onej, the first impression, was the right one (as usual) His public persona seems very different to his behind closed doors one, by all accounts he gets into them in the locker room and lights them up frequently. He benched Sheldon and Mo, something big, daft, brash loud Rex would never have done so it looks to me like he's holding some of these losers accountable. let's fire Bowles because he seems quiet and doesn't give us the press conference rage Jet fans seem to need so much. Lets sack every coach after 2 years until someone wins a SB in year one, the loud one is too loud and the quiet one is to quiet. Do you know what I'm sick of the most? The pass these shitty dickhead players get. You want accountability? start with Brant Boyer and his ST unit that got roasted all day long, or maybe Calvin Pryor and his dumbass taunting penalties, or the garbage protection and QB play. I just want this roster blowing up from top to bottom, B- Marsh the lot, get these bums out of here. The only thing I won't defend Bowles on is his continuation to go with Fitz, he deserves all the shit he gets if he continues to tie himself to the leagues worst QB.
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Nov 7, 2016 8:35:32 GMT -5
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Nov 7, 2016 8:35:32 GMT -5
He has that look WadevPhillips had on the sideline- trying to mask the clueless "I have no idea what I'm looking at here" look, with the studious, overcompensating, "I'm concentrating heavily " look
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Nov 7, 2016 10:21:55 GMT -5
Post by JetRepulsion1 on Nov 7, 2016 10:21:55 GMT -5
wHEN He was hired and it was announced and he was being interviewed, and had so little to say about his team and his coaching philosophy , I kept thinking "wow this guy's a got nothing to say, how can he coach a team, he can't be this dumb right? maybe he's just super quiet and holds everything close to the vest". looks like option onej, the first impression, was the right one (as usual) His public persona seems very different to his behind closed doors one, by all accounts he gets into them in the locker room and lights them up frequently. He benched Sheldon and Mo, something big, daft, brash loud Rex would never have done so it looks to me like he's holding some of these losers accountable. let's fire Bowles because he seems quiet and doesn't give us the press conference rage Jet fans seem to need so much. Lets sack every coach after 2 years until someone wins a SB in year one, the loud one is too loud and the quiet one is to quiet. Do you know what I'm sick of the most? The pass these shitty dickhead players get. You want accountability? start with Brant Boyer and his ST unit that got roasted all day long, or maybe Calvin Pryor and his dumbass taunting penalties, or the garbage protection and QB play. I just want this roster blowing up from top to bottom, B- Marsh the lot, get these bums out of here. The only thing I won't defend Bowles on is his continuation to go with Fitz, he deserves all the shit he gets if he continues to tie himself to the leagues worst QB. IT seems that the Raiders have used the right blueprint to build the team w/ young talent and hitting in the draft on big spots w/ QB, WRs, etc. We haven't been picking good players in the draft for YEARS, especially on the offensive side of the ball. That's why we have old, average, journeymen leading this team on offense. It's a pathetic situation to be in honestly. At least if we were young and bad, we'd have hope for the future. Old and bad? Put the kids in Bowles the fucking season is over. And, Macc, if you are our GM in April/May - stop listening to your useless scouts, wake up and start picking better players. Otherwise, there will be no fans left pretty soon. We have had it and we couldn't care less.
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Nov 7, 2016 10:57:55 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2016 10:57:55 GMT -5
There is a video called "Real Talk - BIlal Powell"
-realz-talk
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Nov 7, 2016 11:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by JStokes on Nov 7, 2016 11:55:22 GMT -5
His public persona seems very different to his behind closed doors one, by all accounts he gets into them in the locker room and lights them up frequently. He benched Sheldon and Mo, something big, daft, brash loud Rex would never have done so it looks to me like he's holding some of these losers accountable. let's fire Bowles because he seems quiet and doesn't give us the press conference rage Jet fans seem to need so much. Lets sack every coach after 2 years until someone wins a SB in year one, the loud one is too loud and the quiet one is to quiet. Do you know what I'm sick of the most? The pass these shitty dickhead players get. You want accountability? start with Brant Boyer and his ST unit that got roasted all day long, or maybe Calvin Pryor and his dumbass taunting penalties, or the garbage protection and QB play. I just want this roster blowing up from top to bottom, B- Marsh the lot, get these bums out of here. The only thing I won't defend Bowles on is his continuation to go with Fitz, he deserves all the shit he gets if he continues to tie himself to the leagues worst QB. IT seems that the Raiders have used the right blueprint to build the team w/ young talent and hitting in the draft on big spots w/ QB, WRs, etc. We haven't been picking good players in the draft for YEARS, especially on the offensive side of the ball. That's why we have old, average, journeymen leading this team on offense. It's a pathetic situation to be in honestly. At least if we were young and bad, we'd have hope for the future. Old and bad? Put the kids in Bowles the fucking season is over. And, Macc, if you are our GM in April/May - stop listening to your useless scouts, wake up and start picking better players. Otherwise, there will be no fans left pretty soon. We have had it and we couldn't care less. Franchise QB? Check. Playmaking WR? Check. Beast pass rushing OLB? Check. Not a bad start out of 2 drafts. _
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Post by Touchable on Nov 7, 2016 12:05:07 GMT -5
IT seems that the Raiders have used the right blueprint to build the team w/ young talent and hitting in the draft on big spots w/ QB, WRs, etc. We haven't been picking good players in the draft for YEARS, especially on the offensive side of the ball. That's why we have old, average, journeymen leading this team on offense. It's a pathetic situation to be in honestly. At least if we were young and bad, we'd have hope for the future. Old and bad? Put the kids in Bowles the fucking season is over. And, Macc, if you are our GM in April/May - stop listening to your useless scouts, wake up and start picking better players. Otherwise, there will be no fans left pretty soon. We have had it and we couldn't care less. Franchise QB? Check. Playmaking WR? Check. Beast pass rushing OLB? Check. Not a bad start out of 2 drafts. _ Oakland also gave McKenzie plenty of time to turn over the roster. His first 4 years the Raiders went 4-12, 4-12, 3-13 and 7-9. The Jets either need to commit to Maccagnan for another 2-3 years or just clear house and start over again and give the next guy the time he needs.
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Nov 7, 2016 13:52:41 GMT -5
Post by quantum on Nov 7, 2016 13:52:41 GMT -5
Franchise QB? Check. Playmaking WR? Check. Beast pass rushing OLB? Check. Not a bad start out of 2 drafts. _ Oakland also gave McKenzie plenty of time to turn over the roster. His first 4 years the Raiders went 4-12, 4-12, 3-13 and 7-9. The Jets either need to commit to Maccagnan for another 2-3 years or just clear house and start over again and give the next guy the time he needs. yeah but none of us are getting any younger!
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