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Post by Ff2 on Dec 27, 2016 15:41:22 GMT -5
So...the glorious wall isn't being built? Clinton isn't going to be locked up? We aren't stopping all Muslim immigrants? Are we NOT making America great again? Please help me,, was ANY of it true? Are we going to bomb the hell out of ISIS? I mean, the coal jobs are coming back AMIRITE? They say what they say to get elected OR they appear less incompetent and less corrupt than the one who selected them as the opposition. Did you get the Hope and Change you voted for over the last 8 years? Because I found nothing but shittier foreign relations, shittier health care and shittier domestic race relations. I did get some changes I liked. I got a relatively speaking scandal free administration, I got a better economy, my soldier nephew didn't have to go fight in a made up war, healthcare for my daughter, improved rights protection for my gay friend and a robust stock market.
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Post by Jets Things on Dec 27, 2016 15:57:29 GMT -5
They say what they say to get elected OR they appear less incompetent and less corrupt than the one who selected them as the opposition. Did you get the Hope and Change you voted for over the last 8 years? Because I found nothing but shittier foreign relations, shittier health care and shittier domestic race relations. I did get some changes I liked. I got a relatively speaking scandal free administration, I got a better economy, my soldier nephew didn't have to go fight in a made up war, healthcare for my daughter, improved rights protection for my gay friend and a robust stock market. Unlikely. Maybe you caught some gay from your gay friend, but that's it.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 27, 2016 16:00:13 GMT -5
I did get some changes I liked. I got a relatively speaking scandal free administration, I got a better economy, my soldier nephew didn't have to go fight in a made up war, healthcare for my daughter, improved rights protection for my gay friend and a robust stock market. Unlikely. Maybe you caught some gay from your gay friend, but that's it. He's hawt for sure but I'm a chubby chaser myself!
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Post by Hotman on Dec 28, 2016 5:59:45 GMT -5
They say what they say to get elected OR they appear less incompetent and less corrupt than the one who selected them as the opposition. Did you get the Hope and Change you voted for over the last 8 years? Because I found nothing but shittier foreign relations, shittier health care and shittier domestic race relations. I did get some changes I liked. I got a relatively speaking scandal free administration, I got a better economy, my soldier nephew didn't have to go fight in a made up war, healthcare for my daughter, improved rights protection for my gay friend and a robust stock market. you live in an echo chamber. I know. I lived up there. Clueless motherfuckers. No reality. Not dissing you just sayin how it is. Those people are in a delusional bublle echo chamber.
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Post by Hotman on Dec 28, 2016 6:00:37 GMT -5
And also... there are almost no black folks there. You all live in some fucked up fake white distopia fantasy land
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Post by Trades on Dec 28, 2016 8:33:47 GMT -5
Scandal Free!!! or the media ignored things at least.
1. Operation Fast and Furious. This egregious example of a reckless government endangering lives and then scrambling to cover it up has haunted Obama for years. As Daily Wire has explained, "Operation Fast and Furious involved the Obama administration arming drug cartels and thugs south of the border as a means to undermine the Second Amendment. The program resulted in the death of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. One of the Islamic terrorists in the Garland, Texas, attack also used a gun that was obtained through the Fast and Furious program."
The attempt to cover up the fatal program resulted in Obama's first AG being held in contempt of Congress:
Then-Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and President Barack Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege. On Tuesday, a federal judge threw out Obama's executive privilege assertion on the grounds that the Justice Department "has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold. Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced."
It has also been revealed that Joaquin Guzman, better known as the drug lord "El Chapo," acquired a .50 caliber rifle as a result of Fast and Furious.
2. Benghazi. The terror attacks in Benghazi, Libya resulted in four brave Americans dying despite the fact that help could have been sent, but wasn't. Requests for security prior to the attack were repeatedly denied, and after the attack Obama and Hillary Clinton falsely blamed it on a video considered offensive to Muslims. During the election, Benghazi became associated with Clinton—and rightly so—but it is also Obama's scandal as well. It is still not known what Obama was doing that night.
3. The IRS targeted conservative organizations. In 2013, Lois Lerner, who directed the Internal Revenue Service's Exempt Organizations Unit, admitted that Tea Party organizations were targeted under the agency, but blamed it on lower-level employees. Such organizations were heavily scrutinized with invasive questions. Since then, Lerner and IRS commissioner John Koskinen have denied any wrongdoing and have stonewalled congressional efforts to investigate the matter, citing computer crashes for being unable to turn over related emails.
Meanwhile, a federal court concluded in August that conservative groups might still be facing targeted scrutiny from the IRS. It has also been reported that the Department of Justice (DOJ) knew about the IRS's targeting of conservative groups as early as 2011.
4. The DOJ seized Associated Press phone records as well as phone and email records from Fox News reporter James Rosen. In the AP's case, the DOJ was investigating a story involving "a CIA operation in Yemen that foiled an al-Qaeda plot in the spring of 2012 to set off a bomb on an airplane headed to the United States," according to the Washington Post. The DOJ seized two months of phone records from the AP without informing the news outlet.
"There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters," Gary Pruitt, president of the AP wrote to Holder at the time. “These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP’s newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP’s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know.”
In the Rosen case, the DOJ was investigating a story Rosen did involving North Korea and tracked "his movements and conversations," according to Fox News, including phone numbers belonging to Rosen's parents. The DOJ had listed Rosen as a "co-conspirator" under the Espionage Act in regards to the story—allegedly pressing a source for classified information. Rosen was never charged with a crime.
Fox News executive Michael Clemente called the DOJ's actions against Rosen "downright chilling." "We will unequivocally defend [Rosen’s] right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press," Clemente said in a statement, per the Washington Post.
5. The NSA conducted mass surveillance against American citizens without a warrant. Thanks to leaking from former government contractor Edward Snowden, it was revealed that the National Security Agency had been conducting mass surveillance against American citizens—a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment. In 2015, the NSA eventually ended their bulk data collection of phone records.
6. The Obama administration paid ransom to Iran for hostages, and lied to the American people about it. As the Daily Wire has explained, the Obama administration claimed that they were giving a total of $1.7 billion to Iran to settle a failed arms deal with the previous Iranian regime, and it just happened to coincide with the release of four American hostages. The Obama administration also didn't reveal the details of the agreement to Congress. It was obvious though that it was a ransom deal and the Obama administration lied about it.
7. Hillary's email scandal. Clinton's use of a private email server that was unapproved and unsecured has been written about extensively, but it is also Obama's scandal as well, since it has been revealed that not only did Obama know about her private email server, he also communicated with her under the use of a pseudonym. If their email exchanges involved classified information, then Obama also would have violated the Espionage Act.
8. The Environmental Protection Agency poisoned a Colorado river. The EPA breached the Gold King mine in the state and "mistakenly dug at the bottom" as well as didn't test for pressure, leading to "three million gallons of toxic mine waste" being dumped into a river, according to The Daily Caller. The EPA has not been held accountable for this.
9. The EPA also broke federal law in promoting a regulation. The Daily Wire reported in 2015 that the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office concluded that the EPA broke the law in using Thunderclap to tout their "Waters of the United States" regulation as well as their use of "hyperlinks to the [Natural Resources Defense Council] and Surfrider Foundation webpages provided in the EPA blog post."
10. The GSA scandal. The General Services Administration was busted in 2012 for spending $823,000 on an extravagantly decadent conference in Las Vegas, and it became a shining example of government waste. Several people in the agency were fired, with one facing an indictment. Despite the scandal, lavish spending still occurred within federal agencies under the Obama administration.
11. The Secret Service scandal. The Secret Service was caught in 2012 engaging with prostitutes during a trip to Cartegena, Columbia, with one Secret Service agent emailing another: "Swagg cologne-check/Pimp gear-check/ Swagg sunglasses-check/Cash fo dem hoes-check." They "also left sensitive government documents unprotected in their Cartagena rooms," according to The Daily Caller.
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Post by adpz on Dec 28, 2016 9:14:42 GMT -5
Scandal Free!!! or the media ignored things at least. Can we add the total lack of accountability (or interest in it) at the VA to this list....
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 28, 2016 10:02:11 GMT -5
And also... there are almost no black folks there. You all live in some fucked up fake white distopia fantasy land What does that have to do with how the Obama presidency affected me? Make a coherent point for god's sake.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 28, 2016 10:04:50 GMT -5
I did get some changes I liked. I got a relatively speaking scandal free administration, I got a better economy, my soldier nephew didn't have to go fight in a made up war, healthcare for my daughter, improved rights protection for my gay friend and a robust stock market. you live in an echo chamber. I know. I lived up there. Clueless motherfuckers. No reality. Not dissing you just sayin how it is. Those people are in a delusional bublle echo chamber. I merely pointed out how MY life has been affected positively by Obama. Im no echoing anyone. I'm speaking for myself. If you want to address the points, please do, the name calling just suggest you don't really have anything to say.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 28, 2016 10:08:02 GMT -5
Scandal Free!!! or the media ignored things at least. 1. Operation Fast and Furious. This egregious example of a reckless government endangering lives and then scrambling to cover it up has haunted Obama for years. As Daily Wire has explained, "Operation Fast and Furious involved the Obama administration arming drug cartels and thugs south of the border as a means to undermine the Second Amendment. The program resulted in the death of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. One of the Islamic terrorists in the Garland, Texas, attack also used a gun that was obtained through the Fast and Furious program." The attempt to cover up the fatal program resulted in Obama's first AG being held in contempt of Congress: Then-Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and President Barack Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege. On Tuesday, a federal judge threw out Obama's executive privilege assertion on the grounds that the Justice Department "has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold. Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced." It has also been revealed that Joaquin Guzman, better known as the drug lord "El Chapo," acquired a .50 caliber rifle as a result of Fast and Furious. 2. Benghazi. The terror attacks in Benghazi, Libya resulted in four brave Americans dying despite the fact that help could have been sent, but wasn't. Requests for security prior to the attack were repeatedly denied, and after the attack Obama and Hillary Clinton falsely blamed it on a video considered offensive to Muslims. During the election, Benghazi became associated with Clinton—and rightly so—but it is also Obama's scandal as well. It is still not known what Obama was doing that night. 3. The IRS targeted conservative organizations. In 2013, Lois Lerner, who directed the Internal Revenue Service's Exempt Organizations Unit, admitted that Tea Party organizations were targeted under the agency, but blamed it on lower-level employees. Such organizations were heavily scrutinized with invasive questions. Since then, Lerner and IRS commissioner John Koskinen have denied any wrongdoing and have stonewalled congressional efforts to investigate the matter, citing computer crashes for being unable to turn over related emails. Meanwhile, a federal court concluded in August that conservative groups might still be facing targeted scrutiny from the IRS. It has also been reported that the Department of Justice (DOJ) knew about the IRS's targeting of conservative groups as early as 2011. 4. The DOJ seized Associated Press phone records as well as phone and email records from Fox News reporter James Rosen. In the AP's case, the DOJ was investigating a story involving "a CIA operation in Yemen that foiled an al-Qaeda plot in the spring of 2012 to set off a bomb on an airplane headed to the United States," according to the Washington Post. The DOJ seized two months of phone records from the AP without informing the news outlet. "There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters," Gary Pruitt, president of the AP wrote to Holder at the time. “These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP’s newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP’s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know.” In the Rosen case, the DOJ was investigating a story Rosen did involving North Korea and tracked "his movements and conversations," according to Fox News, including phone numbers belonging to Rosen's parents. The DOJ had listed Rosen as a "co-conspirator" under the Espionage Act in regards to the story—allegedly pressing a source for classified information. Rosen was never charged with a crime. Fox News executive Michael Clemente called the DOJ's actions against Rosen "downright chilling." "We will unequivocally defend [Rosen’s] right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press," Clemente said in a statement, per the Washington Post. 5. The NSA conducted mass surveillance against American citizens without a warrant. Thanks to leaking from former government contractor Edward Snowden, it was revealed that the National Security Agency had been conducting mass surveillance against American citizens—a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment. In 2015, the NSA eventually ended their bulk data collection of phone records. 6. The Obama administration paid ransom to Iran for hostages, and lied to the American people about it. As the Daily Wire has explained, the Obama administration claimed that they were giving a total of $1.7 billion to Iran to settle a failed arms deal with the previous Iranian regime, and it just happened to coincide with the release of four American hostages. The Obama administration also didn't reveal the details of the agreement to Congress. It was obvious though that it was a ransom deal and the Obama administration lied about it. 7. Hillary's email scandal. Clinton's use of a private email server that was unapproved and unsecured has been written about extensively, but it is also Obama's scandal as well, since it has been revealed that not only did Obama know about her private email server, he also communicated with her under the use of a pseudonym. If their email exchanges involved classified information, then Obama also would have violated the Espionage Act. 8. The Environmental Protection Agency poisoned a Colorado river. The EPA breached the Gold King mine in the state and "mistakenly dug at the bottom" as well as didn't test for pressure, leading to "three million gallons of toxic mine waste" being dumped into a river, according to The Daily Caller. The EPA has not been held accountable for this. 9. The EPA also broke federal law in promoting a regulation. The Daily Wire reported in 2015 that the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office concluded that the EPA broke the law in using Thunderclap to tout their "Waters of the United States" regulation as well as their use of "hyperlinks to the [Natural Resources Defense Council] and Surfrider Foundation webpages provided in the EPA blog post." 10. The GSA scandal. The General Services Administration was busted in 2012 for spending $823,000 on an extravagantly decadent conference in Las Vegas, and it became a shining example of government waste. Several people in the agency were fired, with one facing an indictment. Despite the scandal, lavish spending still occurred within federal agencies under the Obama administration. 11. The Secret Service scandal. The Secret Service was caught in 2012 engaging with prostitutes during a trip to Cartegena, Columbia, with one Secret Service agent emailing another: "Swagg cologne-check/Pimp gear-check/ Swagg sunglasses-check/Cash fo dem hoes-check." They "also left sensitive government documents unprotected in their Cartagena rooms," according to The Daily Caller. I said "relatively." Look up the Bush years then we can talk. And I mean folks actually being PROSECUTED.
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Post by Trades on Dec 28, 2016 10:39:01 GMT -5
Scandal Free!!! or the media ignored things at least. 1. Operation Fast and Furious. This egregious example of a reckless government endangering lives and then scrambling to cover it up has haunted Obama for years. As Daily Wire has explained, "Operation Fast and Furious involved the Obama administration arming drug cartels and thugs south of the border as a means to undermine the Second Amendment. The program resulted in the death of U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry. One of the Islamic terrorists in the Garland, Texas, attack also used a gun that was obtained through the Fast and Furious program." The attempt to cover up the fatal program resulted in Obama's first AG being held in contempt of Congress: Then-Attorney General Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress for stonewalling investigations into Operation Fast and Furious, and President Barack Obama further stonewalled the investigations by wrongly asserting executive privilege. On Tuesday, a federal judge threw out Obama's executive privilege assertion on the grounds that the Justice Department "has already publicly revealed the sum and substance of the very material it is now seeking to withhold. Since any harm that would flow from the disclosures sought here would be merely incremental, the records must be produced." It has also been revealed that Joaquin Guzman, better known as the drug lord "El Chapo," acquired a .50 caliber rifle as a result of Fast and Furious. 2. Benghazi. The terror attacks in Benghazi, Libya resulted in four brave Americans dying despite the fact that help could have been sent, but wasn't. Requests for security prior to the attack were repeatedly denied, and after the attack Obama and Hillary Clinton falsely blamed it on a video considered offensive to Muslims. During the election, Benghazi became associated with Clinton—and rightly so—but it is also Obama's scandal as well. It is still not known what Obama was doing that night. 3. The IRS targeted conservative organizations. In 2013, Lois Lerner, who directed the Internal Revenue Service's Exempt Organizations Unit, admitted that Tea Party organizations were targeted under the agency, but blamed it on lower-level employees. Such organizations were heavily scrutinized with invasive questions. Since then, Lerner and IRS commissioner John Koskinen have denied any wrongdoing and have stonewalled congressional efforts to investigate the matter, citing computer crashes for being unable to turn over related emails. Meanwhile, a federal court concluded in August that conservative groups might still be facing targeted scrutiny from the IRS. It has also been reported that the Department of Justice (DOJ) knew about the IRS's targeting of conservative groups as early as 2011. 4. The DOJ seized Associated Press phone records as well as phone and email records from Fox News reporter James Rosen. In the AP's case, the DOJ was investigating a story involving "a CIA operation in Yemen that foiled an al-Qaeda plot in the spring of 2012 to set off a bomb on an airplane headed to the United States," according to the Washington Post. The DOJ seized two months of phone records from the AP without informing the news outlet. "There can be no possible justification for such an overbroad collection of the telephone communications of The Associated Press and its reporters," Gary Pruitt, president of the AP wrote to Holder at the time. “These records potentially reveal communications with confidential sources across all of the newsgathering activities undertaken by the AP during a two-month period, provide a road map to AP’s newsgathering operations, and disclose information about AP’s activities and operations that the government has no conceivable right to know.” In the Rosen case, the DOJ was investigating a story Rosen did involving North Korea and tracked "his movements and conversations," according to Fox News, including phone numbers belonging to Rosen's parents. The DOJ had listed Rosen as a "co-conspirator" under the Espionage Act in regards to the story—allegedly pressing a source for classified information. Rosen was never charged with a crime. Fox News executive Michael Clemente called the DOJ's actions against Rosen "downright chilling." "We will unequivocally defend [Rosen’s] right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press," Clemente said in a statement, per the Washington Post. 5. The NSA conducted mass surveillance against American citizens without a warrant. Thanks to leaking from former government contractor Edward Snowden, it was revealed that the National Security Agency had been conducting mass surveillance against American citizens—a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment. In 2015, the NSA eventually ended their bulk data collection of phone records. 6. The Obama administration paid ransom to Iran for hostages, and lied to the American people about it. As the Daily Wire has explained, the Obama administration claimed that they were giving a total of $1.7 billion to Iran to settle a failed arms deal with the previous Iranian regime, and it just happened to coincide with the release of four American hostages. The Obama administration also didn't reveal the details of the agreement to Congress. It was obvious though that it was a ransom deal and the Obama administration lied about it. 7. Hillary's email scandal. Clinton's use of a private email server that was unapproved and unsecured has been written about extensively, but it is also Obama's scandal as well, since it has been revealed that not only did Obama know about her private email server, he also communicated with her under the use of a pseudonym. If their email exchanges involved classified information, then Obama also would have violated the Espionage Act. 8. The Environmental Protection Agency poisoned a Colorado river. The EPA breached the Gold King mine in the state and "mistakenly dug at the bottom" as well as didn't test for pressure, leading to "three million gallons of toxic mine waste" being dumped into a river, according to The Daily Caller. The EPA has not been held accountable for this. 9. The EPA also broke federal law in promoting a regulation. The Daily Wire reported in 2015 that the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office concluded that the EPA broke the law in using Thunderclap to tout their "Waters of the United States" regulation as well as their use of "hyperlinks to the [Natural Resources Defense Council] and Surfrider Foundation webpages provided in the EPA blog post." 10. The GSA scandal. The General Services Administration was busted in 2012 for spending $823,000 on an extravagantly decadent conference in Las Vegas, and it became a shining example of government waste. Several people in the agency were fired, with one facing an indictment. Despite the scandal, lavish spending still occurred within federal agencies under the Obama administration. 11. The Secret Service scandal. The Secret Service was caught in 2012 engaging with prostitutes during a trip to Cartegena, Columbia, with one Secret Service agent emailing another: "Swagg cologne-check/Pimp gear-check/ Swagg sunglasses-check/Cash fo dem hoes-check." They "also left sensitive government documents unprotected in their Cartagena rooms," according to The Daily Caller. I said "relatively." Look up the Bush years then we can talk. And I mean folks actually being PROSECUTED. Give it time. There was a lot more light shined on the Bush administration for some reason...
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 28, 2016 11:01:17 GMT -5
^ Because the media was actually doing their job (and by job I mean go after those they oppose).
Media has been on a sabbatical for the past 8 years. Plenty of stored up energy to report on every Trump fart.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 28, 2016 17:05:55 GMT -5
Usually voters vote hoping the candidate will do at least SOME of what they promised or at least try but then are disappointed when they are completely thwarted by the opposition party. Not, voting for him and hoping and believing he doesn't actually do what he promised. Like these losers. I can't wait till their special coal miner benefits are taken away when ACA is repealed. Now, many in coal-country are worried they might lose benefits linked to black lung disease if Trump repeals Obamacare. Three sentences in the Affordable Care Act made it easier for victims of black lung to receive monthly federal benefits if they worked 15 years or more in the mines. If they died, the benefits automatically extended to their widows. The director of the Appalachian Citizens' Law Center, Stephen Sanders, represents miners applying for black lung benefits. Obamacare benefits are more important than ever, he said. "President Elect Trump promised people that he was going to restore mining jobs," Sanders said. "I don't think he thought about what the Affordable Care Act might mean to miners who are applying for black lung benefits." Linda Adams' husband, Tony, died three years ago. She supported Trump in the presidential election. "If Obamacare goes away we're gonna be in a world of depression," Adams said. And both the senator from coal country and the president of Kentucky Coal Assoc. admit coal jobs aren't coming back. Losers. The interim president of the Kentucky Coal Association was more direct about the future of coal mining in Eastern Kentucky. “I would not expect to see a lot of growth because of the Trump presidency,” Nick Carter said in an interview. “If there is any growth in Eastern Kentucky, it will be because of an improved economy for coal.” Read more here: www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article114197923.html#storylink=cpy
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Post by Trades on Dec 28, 2016 17:35:22 GMT -5
Usually voters vote hoping the candidate will do at least SOME of what they promised or at least try but then are disappointed when they are completely thwarted by the opposition party. Not, voting for him and hoping and believing he doesn't actually do what he promised. Like these losers. I can't wait till their special coal miner benefits are taken away when ACA is repealed. Now, many in coal-country are worried they might lose benefits linked to black lung disease if Trump repeals Obamacare. Three sentences in the Affordable Care Act made it easier for victims of black lung to receive monthly federal benefits if they worked 15 years or more in the mines. If they died, the benefits automatically extended to their widows. The director of the Appalachian Citizens' Law Center, Stephen Sanders, represents miners applying for black lung benefits. Obamacare benefits are more important than ever, he said. "President Elect Trump promised people that he was going to restore mining jobs," Sanders said. "I don't think he thought about what the Affordable Care Act might mean to miners who are applying for black lung benefits." Linda Adams' husband, Tony, died three years ago. She supported Trump in the presidential election. "If Obamacare goes away we're gonna be in a world of depression," Adams said. And both the senator from coal country and the president of Kentucky Coal Assoc. admit coal jobs aren't coming back. Losers. The interim president of the Kentucky Coal Association was more direct about the future of coal mining in Eastern Kentucky. “I would not expect to see a lot of growth because of the Trump presidency,” Nick Carter said in an interview. “If there is any growth in Eastern Kentucky, it will be because of an improved economy for coal.” Read more here: www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article114197923.html#storylink=cpyWe will see but reduced regulations and not trying to kill the coal industry as Obama said he was doing can't hurt. Plus it is a good thing that there was Obamacare when my coal mining grandfather died in 1940 from black lung so the my grandmother was able to get her black lung benefits for the rest of her life. One has nothing to do with the other.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 29, 2016 15:39:53 GMT -5
Usually voters vote hoping the candidate will do at least SOME of what they promised or at least try but then are disappointed when they are completely thwarted by the opposition party. Not, voting for him and hoping and believing he doesn't actually do what he promised. Like these losers. I can't wait till their special coal miner benefits are taken away when ACA is repealed. Now, many in coal-country are worried they might lose benefits linked to black lung disease if Trump repeals Obamacare. Three sentences in the Affordable Care Act made it easier for victims of black lung to receive monthly federal benefits if they worked 15 years or more in the mines. If they died, the benefits automatically extended to their widows. The director of the Appalachian Citizens' Law Center, Stephen Sanders, represents miners applying for black lung benefits. Obamacare benefits are more important than ever, he said. "President Elect Trump promised people that he was going to restore mining jobs," Sanders said. "I don't think he thought about what the Affordable Care Act might mean to miners who are applying for black lung benefits." Linda Adams' husband, Tony, died three years ago. She supported Trump in the presidential election. "If Obamacare goes away we're gonna be in a world of depression," Adams said. And both the senator from coal country and the president of Kentucky Coal Assoc. admit coal jobs aren't coming back. Losers. The interim president of the Kentucky Coal Association was more direct about the future of coal mining in Eastern Kentucky. “I would not expect to see a lot of growth because of the Trump presidency,” Nick Carter said in an interview. “If there is any growth in Eastern Kentucky, it will be because of an improved economy for coal.” Read more here: www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article114197923.html#storylink=cpyWe will see but reduced regulations and not trying to kill the coal industry as Obama said he was doing can't hurt. Plus it is a good thing that there was Obamacare when my coal mining grandfather died in 1940 from black lung so the my grandmother was able to get her black lung benefits for the rest of her life. One has nothing to do with the other. The irony of hoping for LESS regulation and celebrating black lung "benefits" is so much awesomeness.
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