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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 30, 2016 11:29:12 GMT -5
I always thought this was meant to mean it might take a long time, so "you" might get there after he died of old age. Perhaps, could go either way. I do know he face death threats on a daily basis and he talked often about the length of his life not being important. Heady times. I often wonder how different things might be if he had not been killed. Not to be flippant, but with all the death threats he should have had a succession plan in place. No one in his inner circle was up to the task.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 30, 2016 11:34:33 GMT -5
Perhaps, could go either way. I do know he face death threats on a daily basis and he talked often about the length of his life not being important. Heady times. I often wonder how different things might be if he had not been killed. Not to be flippant, but with all the death threats he should have had a succession plan in place. No one in his inner circle was up to the task. Indeed. Gives you pause to think about charismatic leaders vs. causes. How much is a cult of personality...how much is the cause. Could someone else have done what Trump just did or was he the perfect guy at the perfect time? Throughout history, timing and personality need to match up for things to happen. Gandhi, Ragu, Hitler....Bill Belidick.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 30, 2016 11:55:00 GMT -5
Heady times. I often wonder how different things might be if he had not been killed. Not to be flippant, but with all the death threats he should have had a succession plan in place. No one in his inner circle was up to the task. Indeed. Gives you pause to think about charismatic leaders vs. causes. How much is a cult of personality...how much is the cause. Could someone else have done what Trump just did or was he the perfect guy at the perfect time? Throughout history, timing and personality need to match up for things to happen. Gandhi, Hitler....Bill Belidick. People do seem to have a burning desire to be led or inspired. That's probably not a bad thing unless the media becomes that person's tool. And no one could have done what Trump did. He is the weirdest combination of both thin and thick skinned. He heard every slight and needed to (over) respond to each one. Yet none of the harsh things that were said caused him to apologize or change course. I still think it is hilarious that libs are apoplectic about him when, in reality, Trump is a democrat.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 30, 2016 11:59:35 GMT -5
Indeed. Gives you pause to think about charismatic leaders vs. causes. How much is a cult of personality...how much is the cause. Could someone else have done what Trump just did or was he the perfect guy at the perfect time? Throughout history, timing and personality need to match up for things to happen. Gandhi, Hitler....Bill Belidick. People do seem to have a burning desire to be led or inspired. That's probably not a bad thing unless the media becomes that person's tool. And no one could have done what Ragu did. He is the weirdest combination of both thin and thick skinned. He heard every slight and needed to (over) respond to each one. Yet none of the harsh things that were said caused him to apologize or change course. Fixed. People care about all the wrong superficial things.
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Post by flushingjet on Dec 30, 2016 14:04:04 GMT -5
I say, prove it. Perform an audit of all votes in the USA, At least 800000 Motor Voter capable Drivers licenses were issued by Moonbeam in CA to illegal parasites. Overcounts for Granny Bobblehead were discovered in the MI recount. Surely you certainly won't mind voting next election with your free verified citizenship , residence, and realtime dead\alive status checked Voter ID. What can be more enlightened than fairness and honesty? Sure, why not? (BTW would you rather illegals not have licenses? I like them proving their identity and where they live. And taking eye tests to show they can see well, and a written test on driving rules as well as a driving test to show they can operate a motor vehicle....but if you just want them to drive illegally...OK I guess.) You are thick, I don't want illegal parasites from anywhere, here, under any circumstance and I don't want them driving because they're not insured. The same reason any smart person never takes a NYC cab because you or your family will never collect from the shell Asian taxicab co. if you get hurt or worse.
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Post by flushingjet on Dec 30, 2016 14:12:38 GMT -5
THE EIGHT CRAZIEST THINGS BELIEVED BY TRUMP VOTERS (ie when enlightenment is a quaint historical tidbit). The Economist/YouGov survey (pdf) addressed many of the pressing issues that face the nation. It's a revealing exploration into the mindset of the electorate. However, the most fascinating (and frightful) revelations are those relating to Trump voters. Below are some of the more worrisome responses. Let's start off with what ought to be the most clear cut inquiry by the pollsters: IS THE COUNTRY BETTER OFF NOW THAN IT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO? Most Americans recall that eight years ago the nation was descending into an economic abyss. The stock market dropped 46 percent. Unemployment shot up to 10.1 percent. Home foreclosures hit record figures. And total household wealth declined by more than $19 trillion. Yet somehow a whopping 60 percent of Trump voters responded to this question saying that the country was better off eight years ago than today. Another 19 percent say there is no difference. That's after stocks climbed back from about 7,000 to nearly 20,000. And unemployment dropped to 4.9 percent. The auto industry that was on the brink of collapse is reporting record profits. And the delusions of the Trumpsters are unique to their breed. Only 21 percent of Democrats thought 2009 was a better year. DO YOU THINK THAT THE PROPORTION OF PERSONS WITHOUT INSURANCE HAS INCREASED OR DECREASED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS? This is another question where the answer is an unambiguous fact. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare), the rate of the uninsured dropped to its lowest levels in history. It now stands at about 10 percent as more than 20 million people got insurance through ObamaCare. Nevertheless, only 26 percent of Trump voters correctly said that persons without insurance decreased. And once again, Democrats demonstrated greater knowledge with 49 percent answering correctly. ON THE SUBJECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE DO YOU THINK: (A) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS CHANGING AS A RESULT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY; (B) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS CHANGING BUT NOT BECAUSE OF HUMAN ACTIVITY; (C) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS NOT CHANGING. While conservatives fiercely deny reality on this question, 97 percent of scientists who study climate agree that "A" is the correct answer. That doesn't stop Trump voters from dismissing the science. Only 36 percent of them chose "A" as their answer. That compares to 79 percent of Democrats doing so. DID SADDAM HUSSEIN HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION BEFORE THE INVASION OF IRAQ IN 2003 THAT THE U.S. NEVER FOUND? Many people may have forgotten that prior to Bush's invasion of Iraq there was an international team of nuclear experts investigating and monitoring Iraq. They never found any trace of WMDs. Neither were any found after the invasion. Of course Trump voters are not constrained by facts. Consequently, 68 percent of them said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs. By contrast, the definitely/probably true respondents among Democrats were only 10 and 32 percent respectively. WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA BORN IN KENYA? Why is this still a question? Even Trump stated in a press conference that he now believes that Obama was born in the U.S., period. Still, Trump's loyal followers are unmoved. A majority of 52 percent continue to say that Obama is definitely/probably a native Kenyan. Democrats aren't perfect on this question, yet they're still far better informed than the Trumpsters. Their definitely/probably born in Kenya numbers are only 7 and 13 percent. DID RUSSIA HACK THE EMAIL OF DEMOCRATS IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE CHANCE THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD WIN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. Seventeen American intelligence agencies, including the FBI and the CIA answer this question with a resounding "YES!" President Obama just slammed Russia with sanctions and diplomatic expulsions in retaliation for their interference in our democracy. However, Trump voters are as defensive about Vladimir Putin as Trump himself. Eighty percent say the charges against Russia are definitely/probably NOT true. And by now you won't be surprised to learn that the same figures for Democrats are a measly 9/16 percent respectively. WERE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTES CAST IN THE ELECTION? This question was motivated by Trump's tweeted assertion that he would have won the popular vote but for millions of illegal votes cast for Clinton. He never bothered to provide and documentation for his claim. And every expert that reviewed it found it to be false or unsupported by any facts. OK, guest what? Sixty-two percent of Trump voters say the claim is definitely/probably true. Sixty-four of Democrats say the opposite. DID LEAKED EMAIL FROM HILLARY CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN CONTAIN CODE WORDS FOR PEDOPHILIA, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE - WHAT SOME PEOPLE REFER TO AS ’PIZZAGATE’? This was one of the more prominent examples of fake news that made the headlines in the past few weeks. It was never given credibility by any legitimate news source. It simply spread like a virus via Facebook and Twitter infecting the dimwitted, right-wing cult fetishists. Eventually, it led to a near tragedy as one of the believers showed up at the pizzeria with an assault weapon. And yet, 46 percent of Trump voters said that this ludicrous fiction was definitely/probably true. That compared to 76 percent of Democrats saying, essentially, "WTF?" While you're out looking for clues Miss Marple here's some fresh memes for you
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Post by Trades on Dec 30, 2016 14:53:53 GMT -5
I say, prove it. Perform an audit of all votes in the USA, At least 800000 Motor Voter capable Drivers licenses were issued by Moonbeam in CA to illegal parasites. Overcounts for Granny Bobblehead were discovered in the MI recount. Surely you certainly won't mind voting next election with your free verified citizenship , residence, and realtime dead\alive status checked Voter ID. What can be more enlightened than fairness and honesty? Sure, why not? (BTW would you rather illegals not have licenses? I like them proving their identity and where they live. And taking eye tests to show they can see well, and a written test on driving rules as well as a driving test to show they can operate a motor vehicle....but if you just want them to drive illegally...OK I guess.) Do you think the ones that fail those drivers tests wouldn't drive anyway? LOL
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 30, 2016 15:10:31 GMT -5
Sure, why not? (BTW would you rather illegals not have licenses? I like them proving their identity and where they live. And taking eye tests to show they can see well, and a written test on driving rules as well as a driving test to show they can operate a motor vehicle....but if you just want them to drive illegally...OK I guess.) Do you think the ones that fail those drivers tests wouldn't drive anyway? LOL Why in the world would they risk breaking the law
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Post by 2foolish on Dec 30, 2016 16:47:47 GMT -5
Good article i printed it out and wiped my ass with it. The NY Post is another quality source of toilet paper I can recommend. best sports section in town...
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Post by JStokes on Dec 30, 2016 17:15:20 GMT -5
THE EIGHT CRAZIEST THINGS BELIEVED BY TRUMP VOTERS (ie when enlightenment is a quaint historical tidbit). The Economist/YouGov survey (pdf) addressed many of the pressing issues that face the nation. It's a revealing exploration into the mindset of the electorate. However, the most fascinating (and frightful) revelations are those relating to Trump voters. Below are some of the more worrisome responses. Let's start off with what ought to be the most clear cut inquiry by the pollsters: IS THE COUNTRY BETTER OFF NOW THAN IT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO? Most Americans recall that eight years ago the nation was descending into an economic abyss. The stock market dropped 46 percent. Unemployment shot up to 10.1 percent. Home foreclosures hit record figures. And total household wealth declined by more than $19 trillion. Yet somehow a whopping 60 percent of Trump voters responded to this question saying that the country was better off eight years ago than today. Another 19 percent say there is no difference. That's after stocks climbed back from about 7,000 to nearly 20,000. And unemployment dropped to 4.9 percent. The auto industry that was on the brink of collapse is reporting record profits. And the delusions of the Trumpsters are unique to their breed. Only 21 percent of Democrats thought 2009 was a better year. DO YOU THINK THAT THE PROPORTION OF PERSONS WITHOUT INSURANCE HAS INCREASED OR DECREASED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS? This is another question where the answer is an unambiguous fact. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare), the rate of the uninsured dropped to its lowest levels in history. It now stands at about 10 percent as more than 20 million people got insurance through ObamaCare. Nevertheless, only 26 percent of Trump voters correctly said that persons without insurance decreased. And once again, Democrats demonstrated greater knowledge with 49 percent answering correctly. ON THE SUBJECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE DO YOU THINK: (A) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS CHANGING AS A RESULT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY; (B) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS CHANGING BUT NOT BECAUSE OF HUMAN ACTIVITY; (C) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS NOT CHANGING. While conservatives fiercely deny reality on this question, 97 percent of scientists who study climate agree that "A" is the correct answer. That doesn't stop Trump voters from dismissing the science. Only 36 percent of them chose "A" as their answer. That compares to 79 percent of Democrats doing so. DID SADDAM HUSSEIN HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION BEFORE THE INVASION OF IRAQ IN 2003 THAT THE U.S. NEVER FOUND? Many people may have forgotten that prior to Bush's invasion of Iraq there was an international team of nuclear experts investigating and monitoring Iraq. They never found any trace of WMDs. Neither were any found after the invasion. Of course Trump voters are not constrained by facts. Consequently, 68 percent of them said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs. By contrast, the definitely/probably true respondents among Democrats were only 10 and 32 percent respectively. WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA BORN IN KENYA? Why is this still a question? Even Trump stated in a press conference that he now believes that Obama was born in the U.S., period. Still, Trump's loyal followers are unmoved. A majority of 52 percent continue to say that Obama is definitely/probably a native Kenyan. Democrats aren't perfect on this question, yet they're still far better informed than the Trumpsters. Their definitely/probably born in Kenya numbers are only 7 and 13 percent. DID RUSSIA HACK THE EMAIL OF DEMOCRATS IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE CHANCE THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD WIN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. Seventeen American intelligence agencies, including the FBI and the CIA answer this question with a resounding "YES!" President Obama just slammed Russia with sanctions and diplomatic expulsions in retaliation for their interference in our democracy. However, Trump voters are as defensive about Vladimir Putin as Trump himself. Eighty percent say the charges against Russia are definitely/probably NOT true. And by now you won't be surprised to learn that the same figures for Democrats are a measly 9/16 percent respectively. WERE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTES CAST IN THE ELECTION? This question was motivated by Trump's tweeted assertion that he would have won the popular vote but for millions of illegal votes cast for Clinton. He never bothered to provide and documentation for his claim. And every expert that reviewed it found it to be false or unsupported by any facts. OK, guest what? Sixty-two percent of Trump voters say the claim is definitely/probably true. Sixty-four of Democrats say the opposite. DID LEAKED EMAIL FROM HILLARY CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN CONTAIN CODE WORDS FOR PEDOPHILIA, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE - WHAT SOME PEOPLE REFER TO AS ’PIZZAGATE’? This was one of the more prominent examples of fake news that made the headlines in the past few weeks. It was never given credibility by any legitimate news source. It simply spread like a virus via Facebook and Twitter infecting the dimwitted, right-wing cult fetishists. Eventually, it led to a near tragedy as one of the believers showed up at the pizzeria with an assault weapon. And yet, 46 percent of Trump voters said that this ludicrous fiction was definitely/probably true. That compared to 76 percent of Democrats saying, essentially, "WTF?" Shockingly this sounds like a NY Times opinion piece. _
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 31, 2016 8:49:55 GMT -5
So true. #myfavoriteobama
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Post by Trades on Dec 31, 2016 11:13:24 GMT -5
THE EIGHT CRAZIEST THINGS BELIEVED BY TRUMP VOTERS (ie when enlightenment is a quaint historical tidbit). The Economist/YouGov survey (pdf) addressed many of the pressing issues that face the nation. It's a revealing exploration into the mindset of the electorate. However, the most fascinating (and frightful) revelations are those relating to Trump voters. Below are some of the more worrisome responses. Let's start off with what ought to be the most clear cut inquiry by the pollsters: IS THE COUNTRY BETTER OFF NOW THAN IT WAS EIGHT YEARS AGO? Most Americans recall that eight years ago the nation was descending into an economic abyss. The stock market dropped 46 percent. Unemployment shot up to 10.1 percent. Home foreclosures hit record figures. And total household wealth declined by more than $19 trillion. Yet somehow a whopping 60 percent of Trump voters responded to this question saying that the country was better off eight years ago than today. Another 19 percent say there is no difference. That's after stocks climbed back from about 7,000 to nearly 20,000. And unemployment dropped to 4.9 percent. The auto industry that was on the brink of collapse is reporting record profits. And the delusions of the Trumpsters are unique to their breed. Only 21 percent of Democrats thought 2009 was a better year. DO YOU THINK THAT THE PROPORTION OF PERSONS WITHOUT INSURANCE HAS INCREASED OR DECREASED OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS? This is another question where the answer is an unambiguous fact. Thanks to the Affordable Care Act (aka ObamaCare), the rate of the uninsured dropped to its lowest levels in history. It now stands at about 10 percent as more than 20 million people got insurance through ObamaCare. Nevertheless, only 26 percent of Trump voters correctly said that persons without insurance decreased. And once again, Democrats demonstrated greater knowledge with 49 percent answering correctly. ON THE SUBJECT OF CLIMATE CHANGE DO YOU THINK: (A) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS CHANGING AS A RESULT OF HUMAN ACTIVITY; (B) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS CHANGING BUT NOT BECAUSE OF HUMAN ACTIVITY; (C) THE WORLD’S CLIMATE IS NOT CHANGING. While conservatives fiercely deny reality on this question, 97 percent of scientists who study climate agree that "A" is the correct answer. That doesn't stop Trump voters from dismissing the science. Only 36 percent of them chose "A" as their answer. That compares to 79 percent of Democrats doing so. DID SADDAM HUSSEIN HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION BEFORE THE INVASION OF IRAQ IN 2003 THAT THE U.S. NEVER FOUND? Many people may have forgotten that prior to Bush's invasion of Iraq there was an international team of nuclear experts investigating and monitoring Iraq. They never found any trace of WMDs. Neither were any found after the invasion. Of course Trump voters are not constrained by facts. Consequently, 68 percent of them said that it was definitely/probably true that Saddam had WMDs. By contrast, the definitely/probably true respondents among Democrats were only 10 and 32 percent respectively. WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA BORN IN KENYA? Why is this still a question? Even Trump stated in a press conference that he now believes that Obama was born in the U.S., period. Still, Trump's loyal followers are unmoved. A majority of 52 percent continue to say that Obama is definitely/probably a native Kenyan. Democrats aren't perfect on this question, yet they're still far better informed than the Trumpsters. Their definitely/probably born in Kenya numbers are only 7 and 13 percent. DID RUSSIA HACK THE EMAIL OF DEMOCRATS IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE CHANCE THAT DONALD TRUMP WOULD WIN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. Seventeen American intelligence agencies, including the FBI and the CIA answer this question with a resounding "YES!" President Obama just slammed Russia with sanctions and diplomatic expulsions in retaliation for their interference in our democracy. However, Trump voters are as defensive about Vladimir Putin as Trump himself. Eighty percent say the charges against Russia are definitely/probably NOT true. And by now you won't be surprised to learn that the same figures for Democrats are a measly 9/16 percent respectively. WERE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL VOTES CAST IN THE ELECTION? This question was motivated by Trump's tweeted assertion that he would have won the popular vote but for millions of illegal votes cast for Clinton. He never bothered to provide and documentation for his claim. And every expert that reviewed it found it to be false or unsupported by any facts. OK, guest what? Sixty-two percent of Trump voters say the claim is definitely/probably true. Sixty-four of Democrats say the opposite. DID LEAKED EMAIL FROM HILLARY CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN CONTAIN CODE WORDS FOR PEDOPHILIA, HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE - WHAT SOME PEOPLE REFER TO AS ’PIZZAGATE’? This was one of the more prominent examples of fake news that made the headlines in the past few weeks. It was never given credibility by any legitimate news source. It simply spread like a virus via Facebook and Twitter infecting the dimwitted, right-wing cult fetishists. Eventually, it led to a near tragedy as one of the believers showed up at the pizzeria with an assault weapon. And yet, 46 percent of Trump voters said that this ludicrous fiction was definitely/probably true. That compared to 76 percent of Democrats saying, essentially, "WTF?" Funny that the Daily Kos left this tidbit out...
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Post by Touchable on Dec 31, 2016 14:29:35 GMT -5
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 1, 2017 16:36:25 GMT -5
The guy is so thin skinned. He has the emotional maturity of a teenage girl. So this past Friday, Trump threw a guest of billionaire Industrialist David Koch off Trump’s West Palm Beach Golf Club. Koch’s guest, Harry hurt III *(Koch the owner of the republican party) TRUMP BOOTS AUTHOR FROM GOLF COURSE Donald Trump personally booted the author of an unflattering biography off Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach on Friday. Harry Hurt III, who penned the 1993 biography, Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, had come to play with billionaire industrialist David. H. Koch, a Trump club member, and two other golfers. Hurt, who has a scratch handicap and plays in colorful knickers, walked over to Trump on the practice range prior to his group’s assigned tee time, only to suffer a tongue lashing from the president-elect. “I said, ‘Congratulations, sir,’ and shook his hand,” Hurt recalls. “Trump said, ‘You were rough on me, Harry. Really rough. That shit you wrote.’” Hurt says he looked Trump in the eye, and said, “It’s all true,” to which Trump rejoined, “Not in the way you wrote it.” Among the juicy tidbits in Hurt’s tome was Ivana Trump’s allegation in a sworn deposition that Trump had “raped” her during their divorce battle. Trump told Hurt it was “inappropriate” for him to play at the club, and had his security detail escort Hurt, Koch, and their playing partners to the parking lot. “David was appalled,” says Hurt. “He branded Trump ‘petty’ and vulgar.’ We played Emerald Dunes instead, which is a much, much better golf course than Trump International.” www.facebook.com/...
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Post by Jets Things on Jan 1, 2017 17:40:05 GMT -5
The guy is so thin skinned. He has the emotional maturity of a teenage girl. So this past Friday, Trump threw a guest of billionaire Industrialist David Koch off Trump’s West Palm Beach Golf Club. Koch’s guest, Harry hurt III *(Koch the owner of the republican party) TRUMP BOOTS AUTHOR FROM GOLF COURSE Donald Trump personally booted the author of an unflattering biography off Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach on Friday. Harry Hurt III, who penned the 1993 biography, Lost Tycoon: The Many Lives of Donald J. Trump, had come to play with billionaire industrialist David. H. Koch, a Trump club member, and two other golfers. Hurt, who has a scratch handicap and plays in colorful knickers, walked over to Trump on the practice range prior to his group’s assigned tee time, only to suffer a tongue lashing from the president-elect. “I said, ‘Congratulations, sir,’ and shook his hand,” Hurt recalls. “Trump said, ‘You were rough on me, Harry. Really rough. That shit you wrote.’” Hurt says he looked Trump in the eye, and said, “It’s all true,” to which Trump rejoined, “Not in the way you wrote it.” Among the juicy tidbits in Hurt’s tome was Ivana Trump’s allegation in a sworn deposition that Trump had “raped” her during their divorce battle. Trump told Hurt it was “inappropriate” for him to play at the club, and had his security detail escort Hurt, Koch, and their playing partners to the parking lot. “David was appalled,” says Hurt. “He branded Trump ‘petty’ and vulgar.’ We played Emerald Dunes instead, which is a much, much better golf course than Trump International.” www.facebook.com/... The ironing is delicious
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