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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 9, 2017 23:08:27 GMT -5
Gangin' up on me, hey bastards. Best TE class ever, and you think i was gonna let that slip by with megaphone? Been a busy week. I'll be getting into some of this soon. Also, I've been trying to attract some of the more scholarly posters from elsewhere to contribute. Your welcome. It is a very beastly TE class. Watch Njoku already! You still need to watch the UMass kid and a few others. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:10:49 GMT -5
Eh I meant stud athlete as in speed and weight combo, but then he's missing the wiggle that would make him AP. Also the vision. Once he gets up to his top speed and hits the second level he's a elite, but behind the line of scrimmage he's avg. Look at how AP drops his hips and then accelerates. I don't see that with Fournette. That's why I'm super interested in his combine. Especially the cone drills. It's an interesting part of Fournette's game you've flagged. hadn't noticed that till now... It's definitely the difference (possibly) that allowed Peterson to get to the second level with such ease at times. Fournette can get stymied back there and disappear. On the other hand, I was impressed with Fournette's agility at full speed when i took the time to watch him recently. His vision/instincts are pretty impressive. He can manipulate a DB or LB that's still 5 yards away. |
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Post by RobR on Feb 9, 2017 23:12:18 GMT -5
Too bad the PSU kid isn't coming out this year.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:14:33 GMT -5
Gangin' up on me, hey bastards. Best TE class ever, and you think i was gonna let that slip by with megaphone? Been a busy week. I'll be getting into some of this soon. Also, I've been trying to attract some of the more scholarly posters from elsewhere to contribute. Your welcome. It is a very beastly TE class. Watch Njoku already! You still need to watch the UMass kid and a few others. Njoku is next man up... Who's the Umass kid? Quite frankly, there's that many jobs open in the NFL to accommodate this class. The Wes Saxtons, Mycole Pruitts, Ben Brauneckers this year are going to be up against the wall. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:15:16 GMT -5
Too bad the PSU kid isn't coming out this year. not eligible i thought. Eitherway, smart play on his part. It's a crowded house. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 9, 2017 23:20:29 GMT -5
Too bad the PSU kid isn't coming out this year. The PSU/UMass transfer? That's a shame, but it's probably for the best. He's been injured a ton, but has great size and is a beast. |
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Post by RobR on Feb 9, 2017 23:24:11 GMT -5
Too bad the PSU kid isn't coming out this year. not eligible i thought. Eitherway, smart play on his part. It's a crowded house. He's eligible. |
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:24:12 GMT -5
not eligible i thought. Eitherway, smart play on his part. It's a crowded house. He's eligible. who we talking about |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 9, 2017 23:25:20 GMT -5
Eh I meant stud athlete as in speed and weight combo, but then he's missing the wiggle that would make him AP. Also the vision. Once he gets up to his top speed and hits the second level he's a elite, but behind the line of scrimmage he's avg. Look at how AP drops his hips and then accelerates. I don't see that with Fournette. That's why I'm super interested in his combine. Especially the cone drills. It's an interesting part of Fournette's game you've flagged. hadn't noticed that till now... It's definitely the difference (possibly) that allowed Peterson to get to the second level with such ease at times. Fournette can get stymied back there and disappear. On the other hand, I was impressed with Fournette's agility at full speed when i took the time to watch him recently. His vision/instincts are pretty impressive. He can manipulate a DB or LB that's still 5 yards away. Oh he's great once he gets past the OL, but I don't think he's that great at manipulating defenders. He just takes a ton of baby steps before he gets to the defender so he can drive through them. If he times it right he lowers his shoulder and runs over them or stiff arms them. He won't be able to do that as much at the next level, but it will still probably happen a bit. That's why I think he'll be good, but I don't see AP. |
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Post by RobR on Feb 9, 2017 23:27:30 GMT -5
Too bad the PSU kid isn't coming out this year. The PSU/UMass transfer? That's a shame, but it's probably for the best. He's been injured a ton, but has great size and is a beast. I'm talking about Mike Gesicki |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 9, 2017 23:31:03 GMT -5
The PSU/UMass transfer? That's a shame, but it's probably for the best. He's been injured a ton, but has great size and is a beast. I'm talking about Mike Gesicki He's also good, but I just saw the kid I was talking about is going back to school too. His name is Adam Breneman he's 6'4 252 and has good speed and is a decent blocker. He had 70 REC, 808 YDS, and 8 TDs this year. |
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Post by maury77 on Feb 9, 2017 23:32:06 GMT -5
Re Fournette, let's see what he does at the combine.
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Post by Paradis on Feb 9, 2017 23:33:57 GMT -5
It's an interesting part of Fournette's game you've flagged. hadn't noticed that till now... It's definitely the difference (possibly) that allowed Peterson to get to the second level with such ease at times. Fournette can get stymied back there and disappear. On the other hand, I was impressed with Fournette's agility at full speed when i took the time to watch him recently. His vision/instincts are pretty impressive. He can manipulate a DB or LB that's still 5 yards away. Oh he's great once he gets past the OL, but I don't think he's that great at manipulating defenders. He just takes a ton of baby steps before he gets to the defender so he can drive through them. If he times it right he lowers his shoulder and runs over them or stiff arms them. He won't be able to do that as much at the next level, but it will still probably happen a bit. That's why I think he'll be good, but I don't see AP. If all things were equal, I'll take Dalvin Cook every time over Fournette for reasons i've already labored over. I hated what I read about him recently; the gangster shite, droppin' bombs in wombs... sigh. |
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Post by RobR on Feb 9, 2017 23:37:43 GMT -5
I'm talking about Mike Gesicki He's also good, but I just saw the kid I was talking about is going back to school too. His name is Adam Breneman he's 6'4 252 and has good speed and is a decent blocker. He had 70 REC, 808 YDS, and 8 TDs this year. The guy I mentioned is a Heath Miller clone. He can do it all with a great catch radius, also owns every PSU record for a TE with terrific size. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Feb 9, 2017 23:41:33 GMT -5
Oh he's great once he gets past the OL, but I don't think he's that great at manipulating defenders. He just takes a ton of baby steps before he gets to the defender so he can drive through them. If he times it right he lowers his shoulder and runs over them or stiff arms them. He won't be able to do that as much at the next level, but it will still probably happen a bit. That's why I think he'll be good, but I don't see AP. If all things were equal, I'll take Dalvin Cook every time over Fournette for reasons i've already labored over. I hated what I read about him recently; the gangster shite, droppin' bombs in wombs... sigh. That's half the NFL. I care about their football drive and commitment. He proved that during his bowl game. Yes, he came in a little over weight, but if you get him babysitter and have him sit down with a few ex athletes I don't think that's a problem. Hell Cro had a million kids but once he came to the Jets he started driving a Prius and can now pay for all their college tuition's' while living comfortably. Unfortunately his vasectomy didn't take haha. |
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