|
|
Post by Ff2 on Mar 29, 2017 10:22:18 GMT -5
Everyone OK with this?  If Trump signs the legislation, as expected, providers will be able to monitor their customers' behavior online and, without their permission, use their personal and financial information to sell highly targeted ads - making them rivals to Google and Facebook in the $83 billion online advertising market. The providers could also sell their users' information directly to marketers, financial firms and other companies that mine personal data - all of whom could use the data without consumers' consent. In addition, the Federal Communications Commission, which initially drafted the protections, will be forbidden from issuing similar rules in the future. |
|
|
|
Post by ventesette on Mar 29, 2017 10:26:01 GMT -5
Well... you guys have been going on about the post office. If they actually do this, plenty of people are going to go back to using the mail for billing and banking. More face-to-face = more jobs!
|
|
|
|
Post by Trades on Mar 29, 2017 10:37:55 GMT -5
Well... you guys have been going on about the post office. If they actually do this, plenty of people are going to go back to using the mail for billing and banking. More face-to-face = more jobs! I highly doubt that. It isn't like online banking boomed after the law was put in place last year. As for FF2s question I would have to do some research. Something tells me that his few paragraphs and lack of a link only tell a small part of the story. If it is an accurate accounting then I would say I am against it. |
|
|
|
Post by Big L on Mar 29, 2017 11:59:30 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by 2foolish on Mar 29, 2017 12:02:47 GMT -5
Everyone OK with this? If Trump signs the legislation, as expected, providers will be able to monitor their customers' behavior online and, without their permission, use their personal and financial information to sell highly targeted ads - making them rivals to Google and Facebook in the $83 billion online advertising market. The providers could also sell their users' information directly to marketers, financial firms and other companies that mine personal data - all of whom could use the data without consumers' consent. In addition, the Federal Communications Commission, which initially drafted the protections, will be forbidden from issuing similar rules in the future. so for instance...time warner can't mine for info but youtube can? |
|
|
|
Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 29, 2017 13:00:13 GMT -5
Thats how I understand the old rule was to work... Youtube, Facebook, Google, etc. can but ISPs cant. I guess the thought being that you can simply choose to NOT use those apps, while using an ISP, and often only one choice of ISP, is pretty much required.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ff2 on Mar 29, 2017 13:19:59 GMT -5
Thats how I understand the old rule was to work... Youtube, Facebook, Google, etc. can but ISPs cant. I guess the thought being that you can simply choose to NOT use those apps, while using an ISP, and often only one choice of ISP, is pretty much required. Correct, its not so simple in may areas to just "switch providers" |
|
|
|
Post by Big L on Mar 29, 2017 13:22:57 GMT -5
You don't transmit bank account info, social security numbers, medical info, etc through YouTube or Facebook or Google. But you do thru your ISP.
|
|
|
|
Post by Ff2 on Mar 29, 2017 13:23:41 GMT -5
Everyone OK with this? If Trump signs the legislation, as expected, providers will be able to monitor their customers' behavior online and, without their permission, use their personal and financial information to sell highly targeted ads - making them rivals to Google and Facebook in the $83 billion online advertising market. The providers could also sell their users' information directly to marketers, financial firms and other companies that mine personal data - all of whom could use the data without consumers' consent. In addition, the Federal Communications Commission, which initially drafted the protections, will be forbidden from issuing similar rules in the future. so for instance...time warner can't mine for info but youtube can? Yes, the thinking being you can opt to stay off YouTube...but not your ISP. |
|
|
|
Post by Ff2 on Mar 29, 2017 13:24:46 GMT -5
Well... you guys have been going on about the post office. If they actually do this, plenty of people are going to go back to using the mail for billing and banking. More face-to-face = more jobs! I highly doubt that. It isn't like online banking boomed after the law was put in place last year. As for FF2s question I would have to do some research. Something tells me that his few paragraphs and lack of a link only tell a small part of the story. If it is an accurate accounting then I would say I am against it. Theres plenty of info out there, honestly wasn't cherry picking, just trying to get to the jist of it all. If someone has more info, please elaborate. |
|
|
|
Post by DDNYjets on Mar 29, 2017 13:32:44 GMT -5
Meh. Ragu is already selling our info. Every time you install an app or use a program you agree to this stuff. They already have all this information. I would like to see something in the bill that requires them to reinvest the money in our network infrastructure so we get better internet or use the revenue to bring down the costs to consumer. Pipe dream, I know.
FF2, go look if any of the major ISPs have stockholders with Russian names. You could win a Pulitzer.
|
|
|
|
Post by bxjetfan on Mar 29, 2017 16:10:24 GMT -5
I'm gonna protest by rubbing one out in front of my smart tv. I'll start yelling about Al Queda and Isis right before I blow so I'm sure they are watching.
|
|
|
|
Post by DDNYjets on Mar 29, 2017 16:39:26 GMT -5
I'm gonna protest by rubbing one out in front of my smart tv. I'll start yelling about Al Queda and Isis right before I blow so I'm sure they are watching. You might be on to something. Being a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer seems like the only way to get them to leave you alone. |
|
|
|
Post by Ff2 on Mar 29, 2017 18:05:20 GMT -5
Meh. Ragu is already selling our info. Every time you install an app or use a program you agree to this stuff. They already have all this information. I would like to see something in the bill that requires them to reinvest the money in our network infrastructure so we get better internet or use the revenue to bring down the costs to consumer. Pipe dream, I know. True, but you can avoid this by not using certain apps. No way to avoid it now. |
|
|
|
Post by Hotman on Mar 29, 2017 18:15:05 GMT -5
Meh. Ragu is already selling our info. Every time you install an app or use a program you agree to this stuff. They already have all this information. I would like to see something in the bill that requires them to reinvest the money in our network infrastructure so we get better internet or use the revenue to bring down the costs to consumer. Pipe dream, I know. True, but you can avoid this by not using certain apps. No way to avoid it now. Wrong. If you have a cell phone it's been done for years. End of story. They just don't have to pretend now... And all those morons claiming "conspiracy therory" and ahem "philanthropist" about a certain shitbag are now PROVEN to be completely full of shit and flat out WRONG/slash/BRAINWASHED |
|
