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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 28, 2017 6:48:49 GMT -5
Of course they have mental issues. Don't let the leftist shame you into being afraid to discuss it. They are the inhumane ones. Allowing vulnerable people to butcher their bodies and change their brain chemistry. They are happier after they transition; except when/where family/friends/coworkers don't readily accept the change; usually because they don't understand it. Happy or happier? Technically, going from wanting to commit suicide to not wanting to would constitute "happier". History of depression is one of the many medical disqualifiers the military has. Regardless of if it has been treated. Just a history is enough to DQ. That goes for the "normies" as well. What percentage of trans persons do you think have suffered depression in their lives? Why is gender and sex the one area where the those who champion science seem to be willfully blind towards it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 8:48:29 GMT -5
They are happier after they transition; except when/where family/friends/coworkers don't readily accept the change; usually because they don't understand it. Tyranny of the minority? It's a small group that doesn't want to be favored; just offered a fair chance to show they can do whatever is asked. Doesn't want to be favored EXCEPT they want to change the language you use to include new made up pronouns and be in the military even though the medical expenses and continuous medical treatment is exorbitant and distracting. As I said Chron's gets you a medical discharge but this should be fine? They aren't asking this of the military alone; are they? NOW consider: USAForces have been rapidly expelling trans people that appear trans. That's why those transfolk that can parade with the best of them are so offended. Dig? They have mitigated those factors and love their job. Now they are in danger of losing a LOT...because of Trump's desire to show of his manly USAF to the other dictators that are starstruck by his naivete and salesmanship
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 8:50:08 GMT -5
They are happier after they transition; except when/where family/friends/coworkers don't readily accept the change; usually because they don't understand it. Happy or happier? Technically, going from wanting to commit suicide to not wanting to would constitute "happier". History of depression is one of the many medical disqualifiers the military has. Regardless of if it has been treated. Just a history is enough to DQ. That goes for the "normies" as well. What percentage of trans persons do you think have suffered depression in their lives? Why is gender and sex the one area where the those who champion science seem to be willfully blind towards it? Happy. TLDR
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Post by flushingjet on Jul 28, 2017 9:01:05 GMT -5
They are happier after they transition; except when/where family/friends/coworkers don't readily accept the change; usually because they don't understand it. Happy or happier? Technically, going from wanting to commit suicide to not wanting to would constitute "happier". History of depression is one of the many medical disqualifiers the military has. Regardless of if it has been treated. Just a history is enough to DQ. That goes for the "normies" as well. What percentage of trans persons do you think have suffered depression in their lives? Why is gender and sex the one area where the those who champion science seem to be willfully blind towards it? Normalizing the dysfunctional 2% was bad enough but we have to draw the line at giving the .00125% who are really disturbed their own bathrooms and snip / tuck ON OUR DIME
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Post by flushingjet on Jul 28, 2017 9:02:48 GMT -5
Doesn't want to be favored EXCEPT they want to change the language you use to include new made up pronouns and be in the military even though the medical expenses and continuous medical treatment is exorbitant and distracting. As I said Chron's gets you a medical discharge but this should be fine? They aren't asking this of the military alone; are they? NOW consider: USAForces have been rapidly expelling trans people that appear trans. That's why those transfolk that can parade with the best of them are so offended. Dig? They have mitigated those factors and love their job. Now they are in danger of losing a LOT...because of Trump's desire to show of his manly USAF to the other dictators that are starstruck by his naivete and salesmanship I'm gettin you a spirit slow cooker for Xmas
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 9:06:11 GMT -5
They aren't asking this of the military alone; are they? NOW consider: USAForces have been rapidly expelling trans people that appear trans. That's why those transfolk that can parade with the best of them are so offended. Dig? They have mitigated those factors and love their job. Now they are in danger of losing a LOT...because of Trump's desire to show of his manly USAF to the other dictators that are starstruck by his naivete and salesmanship I'm gettin you a spirit slow cooker for Xmas What you are saying is that God wants these people to suffer and WANTS 47% of them to jump in front of the lIRR. I assume you are punning on hormone therapy? Or, maybe you menat something delicious: www.readthespirit.com/feed-the-spirit/tag/slow-cooker/
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 28, 2017 9:51:03 GMT -5
No. What we are saying is that if 40-50% of them want to kill themselves then perhaps an occupation that breeds even more mental health issues is not best for them or, more importantly, those who will be forced to serve along side them.
This is not civil rights. This is not the same as saying someone can't attend a school, or ride on public transportation or vote. This isn't even the same as gay marriage. That was about equal protection under the law and affording same-sex couples the same benefits that other couples have. This is about lowering the bar to make people feel good or accepted.
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Post by Trades on Jul 28, 2017 9:53:30 GMT -5
I'm gettin you a spirit slow cooker for Xmas What you are saying is that God wants these people to suffer and WANTS 47% of them to jump in front of the lIRR. I assume you are punning on hormone therapy? Or, maybe you menat something delicious: www.readthespirit.com/feed-the-spirit/tag/slow-cooker/I love how, no Trans in the military immediately goes to they should all die. I have no problem with Trans people working anywhere in the private sector or even in the public sector where they are on a level playing field. In the military, as I and others have pointed out, even small medical issues are disqualifications. Trans people using hormones and/or after surgery are under constant medical care. How do you get them their hormones if they are deployed to some back woods country for 6 months or on a sub for 6 months? That is an undue burden on the military to make SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS for these people. Add in the points about depression being a disqualifier and then explain how you see anyone that is trans as qualifying to be in the military. When I was in the Air Force they wanted everyone to have their Wisdom teeth removed so that just in case you were deployed you wouldn't have issues because of an impacted wisdom tooth. Now compare that to being medically trans not just a cross dresser. All of this would constitute special exceptions for trans people. Were you ever in the military? Do you think it is the same as working for a regular 9-5?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 10:46:00 GMT -5
( 1)I love how, no Trans in the military immediately goes to they should all die. I have no problem (2) with Trans people working anywhere in the private sector or even in the public sector where they are on a level playing field. In the military, as I and others have pointed out, even small medical issues are disqualifications. Trans people using hormones and/or after surgery are under constant medical care. (3) How do you get them their hormones if they are deployed to some back woods country for 6 months or on a sub for 6 months? That is an undue burden on the military to make SPECIAL ACCOMMODATIONS for these people. Add in the points about depression being a disqualifier and then explain how you see anyone that is trans as qualifying to be in the military. When I was in the Air Force they wanted everyone to have their Wisdom teeth removed so that just in case you were deployed you wouldn't have issues because of an impacted wisdom tooth. Now compare that to being medically trans not just a cross dresser. All of this would constitute special exceptions for trans people. Were you ever in the military? Do you think it is the same as working for a regular 9-5? No. I am part of a weird bubble; I have never had to register. Yet my pop was a US Marine officer that was off Honshu in August 1945 as part of the growing ground forces...they laid him off, until Korea...where his bed pistol was stolen in the dead of night. He was deeply frightened. We spoke a lot about these things...I was a good Cub a good Scout...I did 3 summers with the Pinkerton forces of NYRA; so I know some type of roll call. anyway 1) It's like that. 2) You have problems with the trans people you bother to glance over. 3) Trans are in the military for many of same reasons including "proving themselves". The Army doesn't need Trump's help to rid the forces of weaklings. Dig?
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 28, 2017 10:56:39 GMT -5
3) Trans are in the military for many of same reasons including "proving themselves". The Army doesn't need Trump's help to rid the forces of weaklings. Dig? You're right. They just need to enforce their guidelines to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 11:06:56 GMT -5
3) Trans are in the military for many of same reasons including "proving themselves". The Army doesn't need Trump's help to rid the forces of weaklings. Dig? You're right. They just need to enforce their guidelines to do that. Why do you reset this? This doesn't pose a problem; why the insinuation that it does? ? I laughed when I heard that "the NY Yankees of Military Forces" need $60MIL in viagra...and there was another figure for Cialis? $8MIL for the few trans that don't wash out; and deserve what's in their current contract. BTW, I have yet to see an online petition, or Change.org whine about "trans mistreatment" in the military. That says volumes of the heart of those trans men and women determined to be good soldiers. jmo
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 28, 2017 11:14:05 GMT -5
It's not about trans people it's about the mission. I read an article where these folks won't be deployable for up to 75% on a 4 year enlistment because of pre and post op medical care. That's not acceptable. I had a guy in my unit who's wife left him. He got kicked out because he wasn't deployable and he was the only one that could watch his kids.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 28, 2017 11:20:25 GMT -5
You're right. They just need to enforce their guidelines to do that. Why do you reset this? This doesn't pose a problem; why the insinuation that it does? ? I laughed when I heard that "the NY Yankees of Military Forces" need $60MIL in viagra...and there was another figure for Cialis? $8MIL for the few trans that don't wash out; and deserve what's in their current contract. BTW, I have yet to see an online petition, or Change.org whine about "trans mistreatment" in the military. That says volumes of the heart of those trans men and women determined to be good soldiers. jmo You're a fucking deuschebag. Do you know what PTSD is? Do you have any idea of the sacrifices these soldiers make to keep America safe? These guys get so loaded up on opiates and anti psychotic drugs to deal with the shit they've seen and done its not a shock that they might need some help to perform in the bedroom. Or would you deny them and their wives this small comfort.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 11:23:11 GMT -5
It's not about trans people it's about the mission. I read an article where these folks won't be deployable for up to 75% on a 4 year enlistment because of pre and post op medical care. That's not acceptable. I had a guy in my unit who's wife left him. He got kicked out because he wasn't deployable and he was the only one that could watch his kids. Well, source that - I don't think that is true. They kicked out for transitioning; how does the Army offer SRS to contracted soldiers? The Army sounds like it got played, if your story is true.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 11:29:20 GMT -5
Why do you reset this? This doesn't pose a problem; why the insinuation that it does? ? I laughed when I heard that "the NY Yankees of Military Forces" need $60MIL in viagra...and there was another figure for Cialis? $8MIL for the few trans that don't wash out; and deserve what's in their current contract. BTW, I have yet to see an online petition, or Change.org whine about "trans mistreatment" in the military. That says volumes of the heart of those trans men and women determined to be good soldiers. jmo You're a fucking deuschebag. Do you know what PTSD is? Do you have any idea of the sacrifices these soldiers make to keep America safe? These guys get so loaded up on opiates and anti psychotic drugs to deal with the shit they've seen and done its not a shock that they might need some help to perform in the bedroom. Or would you deny them and their wives this small comfort. Jane Stop This Crazy THing I didn't say it's worth/not worth the cost. I was putting that Viagra on Trump's chest; on his neck. He's a bullshitter. EDIT: this is dumb. Thanks Trump. Brother on brother nastiness. Youse guise get me so madddd
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