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Post by RobR on Dec 20, 2020 23:01:14 GMT -5
100%. He'll never be the answer regardless of who is coaching him. Some sleepers I would look at this year is Trask and Ehlinger from Texas. I haven't watched much of Fields but what I did see was atrocious. He holds the ball forever and has arm strength problems to the outside. Lots of looping low velocity throws. I also suck at evaluating QB's, so there's that. Are those second round or second (1) pick guys? That plan could be in play. I think Trask is end of first round/early second. At this point he is criminally underrated because of lack of arm strength, no different than Burrow last year. Ehlinger is a wild cat because he could play LB if needed.....he's built like a tank and plays his ass off. Someone will take a chance on him.....hope it's us.
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Post by 32Green on Dec 20, 2020 23:04:58 GMT -5
358 days since our last victory. And we chose today. Seems legit. fml
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Post by Jets Things on Dec 20, 2020 23:24:23 GMT -5
Are those second round or second (1) pick guys? That plan could be in play. I think Trask is end of first round/early second. At this point he is criminally underrated because of lack of arm strength, no different than Burrow last year. Ehlinger is a wild cat because he could play LB if needed.....he's built like a tank and plays his ass off. Someone will take a chance on him.....hope it's us. I want no part of Florida QBs. Same as I wanted no part of USC or Ohio State QBs. Hard pass on Trask.
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Post by adpz on Dec 20, 2020 23:39:40 GMT -5
358 days since our last victory. And we chose today. Seems legit. fml Recount!
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Post by adpz on Dec 20, 2020 23:41:00 GMT -5
I think Trask is end of first round/early second. At this point he is criminally underrated because of lack of arm strength, no different than Burrow last year. Ehlinger is a wild cat because he could play LB if needed.....he's built like a tank and plays his ass off. Someone will take a chance on him.....hope it's us. I want no part of Florida QBs. Same as I wanted no part of USC or Ohio State QBs. Hard pass on Trask. You can never have too much Tim Tebow
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Post by vin on Dec 21, 2020 0:25:42 GMT -5
stick with darnold trade the pick for multiple fucking picks fill fucking holes and build a fucking team get a real coach that can help darnold so sick of the fucking idiocy. this organization is fucking dipshit level 10 Building around Darnold would be the apex of stupidity. It would be like building around a less promising Sanchez.
Keeping Gase employed is the apex of stupidity.
Anything else is better than that.
And besides, Sam was the Consensus #1 pick in everyone's book.
You mean to tell me he's a bust overall because he can't play in this league?
Or because the Jets can't develop QBs worth a SHIT?
Do you see Josh Allen tearing it up for Buffalo?
If we had Josh Allen, he'd be in the same situation Sam is in.
If we don't end up with Trevor(which it looks like we won't), it would be the Apex of KNEE-JERK-REACTIVE Bullshit to *not* build around Sam.
All that is needed (as we've seen with Tannehill) is Adam Gase FUCKING RIGHT OFF this team into obscurity and away from Sam.
Guarantee you anyone with a fucking pulse could do a better job at Developing Sam Darnold.
And with all due respect, Rob..... Get the fuck out of here with that "less Promising Sanchez" ridiculous statement.
Give Darnold the Weapons that Mark had back then, I bet the results would've been even better than just two AFC Championship Appearances.
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Post by vin on Dec 21, 2020 0:31:19 GMT -5
And I don't want to hear about "sleeper QBs" or 2nd rounders or the like.
What I want to hear is the Jets either using that very top pick to draft a #1 Wide Receiver (A Tall One to give Sam a big target to throw to) *OR* trade the pick to QB-hungry teams for a Ransom.
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Post by RobR on Dec 21, 2020 10:56:19 GMT -5
Building around Darnold would be the apex of stupidity. It would be like building around a less promising Sanchez.
Keeping Gase employed is the apex of stupidity.
Anything else is better than that.
And besides, Sam was the Consensus #1 pick in everyone's book.
You mean to tell me he's a bust overall because he can't play in this league?
Or because the Jets can't develop QBs worth a SHIT?
Do you see Josh Allen tearing it up for Buffalo?
If we had Josh Allen, he'd be in the same situation Sam is in.
If we don't end up with Trevor(which it looks like we won't), it would be the Apex of KNEE-JERK-REACTIVE Bullshit to *not* build around Sam.
All that is needed (as we've seen with Tannehill) is Adam Gase FUCKING RIGHT OFF this team into obscurity and away from Sam.
Guarantee you anyone with a fucking pulse could do a better job at Developing Sam Darnold.
And with all due respect, Rob..... Get the fuck out of here with that "less Promising Sanchez" ridiculous statement.
Give Darnold the Weapons that Mark had back then, I bet the results would've been even better than just two AFC Championship Appearances.
Darnold flat out sucks, he's been a bottom QB in this league his entire career. Can't throw an accurate deep ball, can't read a blitz to save his life, is injury prone, and still makes the boneheaded decisions three years into his career. Time to move on.
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 21, 2020 11:02:25 GMT -5
We've seen enough of Darnold. I know he has had nothing around him but he sucks at things only he is in control of.
Look at a guy like Deshaun Watson this year. Horrible HC/GM takes away his best target. Team around him sucks but he still makes plays.
Darnold doesnt pass the eye test. And he misses too many games. And he is due for a pay day. I would rather use that money on studs and try to win with a game manager before I tie up the next 5 years in Darnold.
Maybe we get a miracle and Jacksonville wins a game. But something tells me their ownership wont allow it.
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Post by adpz on Dec 21, 2020 12:48:24 GMT -5
We've seen enough of Darnold. I know he has had nothing around him but he sucks at things only he is in control of. Look at a guy like Deshaun Watson this year. Horrible HC/GM takes away his best target. Team around him sucks but he still makes plays. Darnold doesnt pass the eye test. And he misses too many games. And he is due for a pay day. I would rather use that money on studs and try to win with a game manager before I tie up the next 5 years in Darnold. Maybe we get a miracle and Jacksonville wins a game. But something tells me their ownership wont allow it. Yeah - where we are in his contract complicates things. Douglas has a big moment - hope he’s up to the task
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Post by vin on Dec 21, 2020 17:53:15 GMT -5
"We've seen enough of Darnold" - said some of the fanbase here in the Hampur. Has Joe Douglas seen enough, though? It's going to be a glass half-empty or half-full situation depending on his viewpoint. If it's half-empty, he will echo what DDNYJets and RobR have stated.
If it's half-full, he will echo what I, cgjet, and others have pointed out and that is Adam Gase is the main problem as to why Sam is struggling.
Wasn't Adam Gase supposed to be the QB WHISPERER?? (remember that *Gem* of a title? ) Oh and another thing : When there is a script for Sam to follow (ala the opening drive of the game; seems the Jets have scored in just about every game at the point), he's great. But when Adam Gase has to come up with playcalls from the seat of his pants the rest of the way, it goes downhill from there. Get Adam Gase the fuck out of NY(NJ) and LET. JOE. HIRE. HIS. OWN. HEAD. COACH. My prediction (I may end up being wrong but here it is) : Sam remains a NY Jet (for now) and a New Coach is brought in. Then next season we see if the New Coach(who knows what the fuck is he's doing) can get Sam going in the right direction. If he can, then it's all good in the hood. If he can't, THEN we can say that Sam was completely broken by Gase and is damaged goods.
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Post by razorjet on Dec 22, 2020 8:50:17 GMT -5
I think the cam-girl with the bleached butt hole jinxed the Jets. I'm intrigued..... please tell us more
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Post by cgjet on Dec 22, 2020 9:50:45 GMT -5
I think the cam-girl with the bleached butt hole jinxed the Jets. I'm intrigued..... please tell us more New Hampur member as of 12/15/2020, littlemisseve. It appears her posts have been removed.
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Post by cgjet on Dec 22, 2020 10:02:21 GMT -5
"We've seen enough of Darnold" - said some of the fanbase here in the Hampur. Has Joe Douglas seen enough, though? It's going to be a glass half-empty or half-full situation depending on his viewpoint. If it's half-empty, he will echo what DDNYJets and RobR have stated.
If it's half-full, he will echo what I, cgjet, and others have pointed out and that is Adam Gase is the main problem as to why Sam is struggling.
Wasn't Adam Gase supposed to be the QB WHISPERER?? (remember that *Gem* of a title? ) Oh and another thing : When there is a script for Sam to follow (ala the opening drive of the game; seems the Jets have scored in just about every game at the point), he's great. But when Adam Gase has to come up with playcalls from the seat of his pants the rest of the way, it goes downhill from there. Get Adam Gase the fuck out of NY(NJ) and LET. JOE. HIRE. HIS. OWN. HEAD. COACH. My prediction (I may end up being wrong but here it is) : Sam remains a NY Jet (for now) and a New Coach is brought in. Then next season we see if the New Coach(who knows what the fuck is he's doing) can get Sam going in the right direction. If he can, then it's all good in the hood. If he can't, THEN we can say that Sam was completely broken by Gase and is damaged goods. Gase waited until game 14 to share the pearl of wisdom with Darnold, get the ball out faster. See, Gase really is the genius Peyton Manning said he was.
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Post by quantum on Dec 23, 2020 8:47:09 GMT -5
Building around Darnold would be the apex of stupidity. It would be like building around a less promising Sanchez.
Keeping Gase employed is the apex of stupidity.
Anything else is better than that.
And besides, Sam was the Consensus #1 pick in everyone's book.
You mean to tell me he's a bust overall because he can't play in this league?
Or because the Jets can't develop QBs worth a SHIT?
Do you see Josh Allen tearing it up for Buffalo?
If we had Josh Allen, he'd be in the same situation Sam is in.
If we don't end up with Trevor(which it looks like we won't), it would be the Apex of KNEE-JERK-REACTIVE Bullshit to *not* build around Sam.
All that is needed (as we've seen with Tannehill) is Adam Gase FUCKING RIGHT OFF this team into obscurity and away from Sam.
Guarantee you anyone with a fucking pulse could do a better job at Developing Sam Darnold.
And with all due respect, Rob..... Get the fuck out of here with that "less Promising Sanchez" ridiculous statement.
Give Darnold the Weapons that Mark had back then, I bet the results would've been even better than just two AFC Championship Appearances.
vin UNLEASHED! need more of this in '21
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