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Post by Paradis on Jan 14, 2015 22:44:28 GMT -5
I'm not gonna lie, I still have feelings for crabby. He was really coming into his own and then there was the injury, then a god damn mess of a year in SF.
Here's what we know:
--He's shown that he can be dominant --Injury prone --Only 27 --won't cost $$$ --would (IMO) be a dream in a Gailey offense --despite injuries, little wear --better suited than Harvin to play the Z flanker.
So where does he sit you guys? Does team him up with Decker and Harvin make sense (in theory it should, they all play the position differently). Does it make Harvin expendable? Who would you pick?
By definition, if Calvin Johnson is the alpha dog of Split Ends (X), then Crabtree (in theory) is that at flanker (Z)
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 14, 2015 22:48:37 GMT -5
No to Crab and keep Harvin. Harvin is expensive but at least we can get the ball in his hands with shitty QB play bc if his versatility. We already have a very good #2 in Decker that we cant get the ball to enough bc of our QBs.
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Post by ryu79 on Jan 14, 2015 22:51:46 GMT -5
does richard sherman have an opinion on this?
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Post by DowNY on Jan 14, 2015 23:10:52 GMT -5
We re-sign Harvin to a better deal then I wouldn't mind signing Crabs. Our WR corps would be set.
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Post by carlton on Jan 14, 2015 23:17:25 GMT -5
Depending on the price I'd love to have him.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 23:21:24 GMT -5
He's essentially Eric Decker dipped in chocolate
Seems redundant to me
I'd rather just keep Harvin and take Cooper or Parker at the top of the draft.
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Post by DowNY on Jan 15, 2015 0:49:08 GMT -5
He's essentially Eric Decker dipped in chocolateSeems redundant to me I'd rather just keep Harvin and take Cooper or Parker at the top of the draft. This is hilariously correct.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 15, 2015 1:14:34 GMT -5
He's essentially Eric Decker dipped in chocolate Seems redundant to me I'd rather just keep Harvin and take Cooper or Parker at the top of the draft. Funny, but I'd say there's some fundamental differences between Decker and Crabby, particularly on how you use them situationally. Ultimately Decker is a better stretch play receiver, and crabtree for those digs and slants. But anyway... if you gotta only keep one, then i'd say the WR drafted ought to be someone who can play more than one position. Parker, Cooper I suppose too. Not sold on Kevin White's versatility yet. Have to watch him some more.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 15, 2015 1:14:48 GMT -5
I like Crabtree as a player, but we already have too much money tied up in the WR position. Get me a young cheap stud in the draft and maybe keep Harvin. I wouldn't renegotiate with Harvin just yet either. I want to make sure he's turned himself around before we give him any guaranteed money. What I really wanted to do was not trade for Harvin and sign Cobb instead of Kerley. Then draft Cooper/Parker/DGB/White/Strong.
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Post by chrebet80 on Jan 15, 2015 1:35:45 GMT -5
He's essentially Eric Decker dipped in chocolate Seems redundant to me I'd rather just keep Harvin and take Cooper or Parker at the top of the draft. Funny, but I'd say there's some fundamental differences between Decker and Crabby, particularly on how you use them situationally. Ultimately Decker is a better stretch play receiver, and crabtree for those digs and slants. But anyway... if you gotta only keep one, then i'd say the WR drafted ought to be someone who can play more than one position. Parker, Cooper I suppose too. Not sold on Kevin White's versatility yet. Have to watch him some more. what makes you not sold on kevin white. Because personally I think he will be a better pro than cooper. Kid had no qb constantly got bracketed and still put up 1400 yards. Also he is 6 3, fast and catches the ball at its highest point. Flat out i think the kid can ball. Reminds me exactly of julio jones.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 15, 2015 1:38:42 GMT -5
Funny, but I'd say there's some fundamental differences between Decker and Crabby, particularly on how you use them situationally. Ultimately Decker is a better stretch play receiver, and crabtree for those digs and slants. But anyway... if you gotta only keep one, then i'd say the WR drafted ought to be someone who can play more than one position. Parker, Cooper I suppose too. Not sold on Kevin White's versatility yet. Have to watch him some more. what makes you not sold on kevin white. Because personally I think he will be a better pro than cooper. Kid had no qb constantly got bracketed and still put up 1400 yards. Also he is 6 3, fast and catches the ball at its highest point. Flat out i think the kid can ball. Reminds me exactly of julio jones. He's not a Julio Jones. Jones is much more explosive and a better athlete. White is like a poor mans Larry Fitzgerald, which isn't a bad thing at all.
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Post by choon328 on Jan 15, 2015 6:05:51 GMT -5
I'd definitely rather take a young WR with #1 upside than Crabtree. Imagine if for the next 4 years we had a young #1 with Decker opposite him and Harvin/Kerley in the slot. It would just open up so much of the offense.
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Post by maury77 on Jan 15, 2015 7:29:01 GMT -5
Obviously I'm in the minority, but I am not a Harvin fan (even at a re-negotiated price). The guy has been so nicked up over the last couple of seasons that I have serious concerns about whether he is ever going to play a full season again and how much of a fit he is on the outside. I'd rather spend the money on Torrey Smith or Crabtree.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 7:57:37 GMT -5
He's essentially Eric Decker dipped in chocolate i learn so much about life and science on this board
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Post by eaglenj on Jan 15, 2015 9:17:19 GMT -5
I like Crabtree as a player, but we already have too much money tied up in the WR position. Get me a young cheap stud in the draft and maybe keep Harvin. I wouldn't renegotiate with Harvin just yet either. I want to make sure he's turned himself around before we give him any guaranteed money. What I really wanted to do was not trade for Harvin and sign Cobb instead of Kerley. Then draft Cooper/Parker/DGB/White/Strong. I agree with you - Decker and Crabtree are completely different players. Moreover, Decker is a significantly better player then crabtree and personally I disagree with bringing crabtree aboard here. I personally dont want to address the WR position in FA if we keep harvin on a restructured deal. He is saying he doesnt want to negoitate but that to me is just posturing, especially now that Gailey is here. I know a lot of fans feel like Gailey is a poor choice, but he is only 63 (for example tom moore still consults and was an OC as recently as 2012 and he is 76) and has 3+ years in him easily. He runs a quick hitting, spread offense and got a career year out of cj spiller (who I wouldnt be surprised to see us bring in as a FA) and is an IDEAL fit for a player like harvin. 3 years, $24 million with $16 guaranteed is a good deal for both us and harvin. After that we need to figure that decker and kerley make up a good top 3. Kerley had a bad year in 2014, but there have been rumors that he had a very difficult season personally as a close friend of his was killed. That stuff can really weigh on you especially on a losing team. He is another guy i expect to thrive with Gailey. We need to find an OG, Safety, CB and fast, rush LB in free agency along with resigning Mo. While I think that decker is in no way overpaid, I dont want to put more money into that position, when we can solidify the trenches on offense, and get some speed on defense, both of which are more important.
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