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Post by vin on Jan 25, 2015 22:42:05 GMT -5
Yeah, well sadly, he's correct. I hope you guys are prepared for disappointment. There will be little punishment, if any. In a few weeks, we'll be told that "our extensive investigation found no proof that there was intent". This is exactly what I'm afraid of.
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Post by madcroatian on Jan 25, 2015 22:43:45 GMT -5
They dont need proof.
11 of thier balls deflated... all the colts balls were fine. Thats the proof.
This is not a federal court. Its the NFL. They can choose to fine/penalize the Cheatriots based on just the collected balls. The fact that this is not a legal trial means that Bill and Tom were totally fine with lying to the press. They arent on the stand, there is no perjury charge for lying to reporters.
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Post by wesleymctoon on Jan 25, 2015 22:50:42 GMT -5
They dont need proof. 11 of thier balls deflated... all the colts balls were fine. Thats the proof. This is not a federal court. Its the NFL. They can choose to fine/penalize the Cheatriots based on just the collected balls. The fact that this is not a legal trial means that Bill and Tom were totally fine with lying to the press. They arent on the stand, there is no perjury charge for lying to reporters. You are giving way to much credit to a league that has recently displayed nothing but total incompetence.
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Post by shootmenow on Jan 25, 2015 23:00:51 GMT -5
For those of us that don't stare at the TV all day and are wondering WTF this thread is all about:
www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/01/25/richard-sherman-super-bowl-xlix-seattle-seahawks/22326271/
Armour: Richard Sherman sees real issue in Deflategate
TEMPE, Ariz. — Leave it to Richard Sherman to liven things up.
Making their first media appearance of Super Bowl week, the rest of the Seattle Seahawks had no interest in discussing underinflated footballs, proper air pressure or the New England Patriots' reputation as the resident Bad Boys of the NFL. Even Sherman doesn't see why footballs are causing such a fuss.
But integrity, now that's a different story.
"Their resume speaks for itself," Sherman said Sunday after being asked if Belidick and the Patriots tiptoe as close to the line as possible without crossing it.
Richard Sherman Talks Roger Goodell, Robert Kraft, and "Conflict of Interest"
"The past is what the past is. Their present is what their present is."
It's not just Bill Belidick and Tom Brady raising eyebrows, either. While it wasn't a Michael Crabtree moment, Sherman was equally devastating in criticizing NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.
"Will (the Patriots) be punished? Probably not. Not as long as (Patriots owner) Robert Kraft and Roger Goodell are still taking pictures at their respective homes," Sherman said. "I think he was just at Kraft's house last week for the AFC Championship. You talk about conflict of interest.
"As long as that happens, it won't affect them at all."
See, Sherman gets it.
The national fixation on underinflated footballs has bordered on the ridiculous. For the better part of a week, there's been little talk of anything else. So much so that Patriots coach Bill Belidick and quarterback Tom Brady were compelled to address it in separate news conferences.
Poorly handled ones, albeit, but news conferences devoted entirely to footballs nonetheless.
Former quarterbacks weighed in. Scientists were called upon to explain how footballs could mysteriously — or nefariously — lose pressure. Even Vice President Joe Biden offered an opinion.
And none of it was the point.
Specifying how much air pressure a football must have is a silly rule. So is requiring officials to test them before games.
"I never checked on the whole process of how footballs are handled until this week," Seahawks coach Pete Carroll said. "I never had, so I can understand how (Belidick) never has, either.
"I know every step of it now," Carroll said, cracking a smile.
But silly or not, those are the rules. So if the NFL finds that Belidick, Brady or anyone in the Patriots organization had a hand causing the footballs New England used in the AFC Championship game to deflate, that's cheating.
And cheating, in any form, compromises the integrity of the game.
The NFL has been fighting credibility issues all season. Underinflated footballs don't come anywhere close to comparing to domestic abuse, and no one is suggesting that. But Goodell has a tendency to make the rules up as he goes, and personal relationships carry a lot of sway with him.
That's not to say that's the case here. Whatever friendship there is between Goodell and Kraft is counterbalanced by the animosity he and Belidick have for each other.
But it's worth raising the question, if for no other reason than to assure people that the rules are applied equally in the NFL.
USA TODAY: Bill Belidick was defending everything he has ever accomplished
"We should set the standard," Carroll said.
There's more than a bit of irony in Sherman putting this latest pre-Super Bowl controversy into its proper perspective. A year ago, he was the one being vilified for his nationally televised rant following the NFC Championship game.
"Yeah, it is ironic that I was the villain seeing as I didn't break any rules," Sherman said.
It's possible Belidick, Brady and the Patriots didn't, either.
But as Sherman said, perception is reality. And neither the NFL's nor the Patriots is very good these days.
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Post by fullblast on Jan 25, 2015 23:17:28 GMT -5
Yeah, well sadly, he's correct. I hope you guys are prepared for disappointment. There will be little punishment, if any. In a few weeks, we'll be told that "our extensive investigation found no proof that there was intent". Meanwhile, we'll get nailed for tampering w/ Revis.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 26, 2015 0:18:43 GMT -5
Doesn't the commish have to schmooze with the owners?
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Post by Harrier on Jan 26, 2015 4:18:23 GMT -5
Tell it like it is Sherms, someone has to other than fans, great to see a player saying what we all know to be the truth.
Time to bring down the crime syndicate.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 26, 2015 8:01:21 GMT -5
The honest Richard Sherman who said his positive Adderal test was because he accidental drank it from someone else's drink. As opposed to your honest douchebag HC who after being fined $500,000 and docked a first round draft pick still refuses to acknowledge that spygate was in violation of NFL rules. Yeah, he didn't know it was a violation, that's why the Pats gave their cameraman fake press credentials. Too bad he may never win a SB without having cheated.
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Post by joepnyj1 on Jan 26, 2015 8:50:12 GMT -5
They dont need proof. 11 of thier balls deflated... all the colts balls were fine. Thats the proof. This is not a federal court. Its the NFL. They can choose to fine/penalize the Cheatriots based on just the collected balls. The fact that this is not a legal trial means that Bill and Tom were totally fine with lying to the press. They arent on the stand, there is no perjury charge for lying to reporters. Nice to meet a fellow croatian lol. I totally agree with you but I have a feeling the NFL is going to let the patriots get away with murder.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 26, 2015 9:55:29 GMT -5
Doesn't the commish have to schmooze with the owners? Once again, VTN gets it. Goodell works for the owners and has THEIR best interest in mind. Theres no "conflict of interest"...the owners ARE his interest. Goodells interest is whatever his bosses want.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 26, 2015 9:59:20 GMT -5
I don't care for Sherman, but somebody had to tell it like it is about those pricks!
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Post by jcappy on Jan 26, 2015 10:00:35 GMT -5
Doesn't the commish have to schmooze with the owners? Once again, VTN gets it. Goodell works for the owners and has THEIR best interest in mind. Theres no "conflict of interest"...the owners ARE his interest. Goodells interest is whatever his bosses want. I mean that's not necessarily wrong but find one other picture of Goodell hanging around another owner's private party. Before a championship game nonetheless. Him and Kraft are noted close friends, more than a professional relationship. Hard to argue there's not at least some form of conflict of interest there.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 26, 2015 10:06:29 GMT -5
Once again, VTN gets it. Goodell works for the owners and has THEIR best interest in mind. Theres no "conflict of interest"...the owners ARE his interest. Goodells interest is whatever his bosses want. I mean that's not necessarily wrong but find one other picture of Goodell hanging around another owner's private party. Before a championship game nonetheless. Him and Kraft are noted close friends, more than a professional relationship. Hard to argue there's not at least some form of conflict of interest there. Yeah - where are the pictures of him schmoozing with Paul Allen? Or Woody for that matter?
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Post by rexneffect on Jan 26, 2015 10:16:48 GMT -5
Doesn't the commish have to schmooze with the owners? Once again, VTN gets it. Goodell works for the owners and has THEIR best interest in mind. Theres no "conflict of interest"...the owners ARE his interest. Goodells interest is whatever his bosses want. That's not entirely an accurate description of the relationship between the owners and Goodell. They can fire him under limited circumstances but he can issue penalties upon them and even go as far as recommend cancelling their franchise charter (which requires a vote by the owners). Most people cannot issue half-million dollar fines on their bosses. It should be unsurprising that he has a generally warm relationship with the owners and he has to keep them moderately happy with him so they don't vote him out but on the other hand he is expected to be an impartial disciplinarian over the league and when he is seen having close relationships with some teams but not others then it strengthens the appearance of favoritism among the teams. His interest is not the well being of the owners individually and especially not the well being of some of the owners. He is responsible for governing the league and the financial well being of the owners as a collective group.
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Post by afceastfan on Jan 26, 2015 10:23:57 GMT -5
Once again, VTN gets it. Goodell works for the owners and has THEIR best interest in mind. Theres no "conflict of interest"...the owners ARE his interest. Goodells interest is whatever his bosses want. I mean that's not necessarily wrong but find one other picture of Goodell hanging around another owner's private party. Before a championship game nonetheless. Him and Kraft are noted close friends, more than a professional relationship. Hard to argue there's not at least some form of conflict of interest there. Here's Goodell hanging with Jim Irsay (among others) at Irsay's private party before the 2012 Super Bowl. Hard to argue there's not at least some form of conflict of interest with the league conducting an investigation instigated by Irsay.
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