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Post by Harrier on Mar 3, 2015 16:17:32 GMT -5
We got fairly compensated for his departure so how can we complain about losing him? Sheldon is a beast. Revis was great here and if he comes back that would be cool. But I like what Woody has done here. He's not stupid, people that earned that kind of fortune aren't in the business of doing stupid shit. He's cleverly declared a psychological war on the Patriots and he gave the greedy Revis camp all the leverage. The Patriots can only lose now. They either own up and pay Revis 20M, thus making their team weaker by losing substantial cap space or they lose Revis out right to the highest bidder in Free Agency. There's no winning for them. And the Jets are in a win/win situation because the Flats* are already preparing for the worst by not franchise tagging McCourty. Say what you want, but Woody Johnson has calculated his every move in my opinion and it's just awesome! Did you just say "woody earned"? You mean "born into"? I detect high levels of sarcasm here.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 3, 2015 16:24:45 GMT -5
And for those who say Rex never developed any player outside of the D-line, Rex basically made Revis's career, creating Revis Island. lol you sure? Because Revis was pretty talented coming out of Pitt. Who else has Rex developed? Yes. There was no "revis island" before Rex showed up. Not many defensive schemes rely on man coverage like Rex's which gave Revis the opportunity to show his talent. He could have wasted away on a team like the Bucs if not for someone using him correctly. What did he do that was so great in NE this year? Maybe we should target Butler instead.
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Post by kuntysoze on Mar 3, 2015 16:24:59 GMT -5
We got fairly compensated for his departure so how can we complain about losing him? Sheldon is a beast. Revis was great here and if he comes back that would be cool. But I like what Woody has done here. He's not stupid, people that earned that kind of fortune aren't in the business of doing stupid shit. He's cleverly declared a psychological war on the Patriots and he gave the greedy Revis camp all the leverage. The Patriots can only lose now. They either own up and pay Revis 20M, thus making their team weaker by losing substantial cap space or they lose Revis out right to the highest bidder in Free Agency. There's no winning for them. And the Jets are in a win/win situation because the Flats* are already preparing for the worst by not franchise tagging McCourty. Say what you want, but Woody Johnson has calculated his every move in my opinion and it's just awesome! I've always said that Woody catches so much crap from Jets fans when a lot of it is unjustified. What can an owner do other than spend money and be passionate about winning? Woody does both of those things. He's not the Wilpons who refuse to spend money, and he's not Dolan, who tries to intervene as GM (at least not anymore). I honestly can't think of anything negative you can pin on Woody. For all the flack he catches, he tends to delegate to his GM and front office for the most part and lets them handle the football decisions. And most importantly, as I mentioned previously, he isn't afraid of spending money. All in all, he's made the Jets more competitive than at almost any point in the Hess years. The only big mistake you can pin on him is the hiring of that moron Idzik, but he seemed like a safe bet at the time. Can't blame him too much for that one.
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Post by ruby2 on Mar 3, 2015 16:27:23 GMT -5
And for those who say Rex never developed any player outside of the D-line, Rex basically made Revis's career, creating Revis Island. Respectfully disagree VTN. Why couldn't he develop Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson then. Not to mention Revis wasn't even drafted under Rex. Rex "developed" the dline during his time here, and that is absolutely it. Every other player picked or brought in regressed or didnt live up to expectations.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 3, 2015 16:28:22 GMT -5
And for those who say Rex never developed any player outside of the D-line, Rex basically made Revis's career, creating Revis Island. Respectfully disagree VTN. Why couldn't he develop Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson then. Not to mention Revis wasn't even drafted under Rex.
Rex "developed" the dline during his time here, and that is absolutely it. Every other player picked or brought in regressed or didnt live up to expectations. Exactly the point. Revis was just another CB until Rex put him on Revis Island. And the Divine HIgher Power couldn't develop Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson.
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Post by southside on Mar 3, 2015 16:31:36 GMT -5
We got fairly compensated for his departure so how can we complain about losing him? Sheldon is a beast. Revis was great here and if he comes back that would be cool. But I like what Woody has done here. He's not stupid, people that earned that kind of fortune aren't in the business of doing stupid shit. He's cleverly declared a psychological war on the Patriots and he gave the greedy Revis camp all the leverage. The Patriots can only lose now. They either own up and pay Revis 20M, thus making their team weaker by losing substantial cap space or they lose Revis out right to the highest bidder in Free Agency. There's no winning for them. And the Jets are in a win/win situation because the Flats* are already preparing for the worst by not franchise tagging McCourty. Say what you want, but Woody Johnson has calculated his every move in my opinion and it's just awesome! Did you just say "woody earned"? You mean "born into"? I detect high levels of sarcasm here. It's been well documented that his money was made building a cable empire in Florida and not because of Johnson and Johnson. In fact, his grandfather and father had a falling out which eliminated any of Woody's involvement in the family business.
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Post by ruby2 on Mar 3, 2015 16:32:00 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree VTN. Why couldn't he develop Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson then. Not to mention Revis wasn't even drafted under Rex.
Rex "developed" the dline during his time here, and that is absolutely it. Every other player picked or brought in regressed or didnt live up to expectations. Exactly the point. Revis was just another CB until Rex put him on Revis Island. And the Divine HIgher Power couldn't develop Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson. I hear what you are saying, or it could be looked at it as Rex came in when Revis was going into his 3rd season after showing extreme promiose as a rookie and playing like a borderline pro bowler in year 2, and was going to break out regardless of coach. Thats more how I see it, but yes Rex's scheme definitely helped create the whole island situation. The main point stands though, that Rex doesn't really get anything out of any other position than Dline.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 3, 2015 16:33:28 GMT -5
Exactly the point. Revis was just another CB until Rex put him on Revis Island. And the Divine HIgher Power couldn't develop Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson. I hear what you are saying, or it could be looked at it as Rex came in when Revis was going into his 3rd season after showing extreme promiose as a rookie and playing like a borderline pro bowler in year 2, and was going to break out regardless of coach. Thats more how I see it, but yes Rex's scheme definitely helped create the whole island situation. I guess the sticking point is "developed", I will grant that ok maybe he didn't "develop" him per se but he definitely put him in a position to succeed
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Post by ruby2 on Mar 3, 2015 16:34:32 GMT -5
I hear what you are saying, or it could be looked at it as Rex came in when Revis was going into his 3rd season after showing extreme promiose as a rookie and playing like a borderline pro bowler in year 2, and was going to break out regardless of coach. Thats more how I see it, but yes Rex's scheme definitely helped create the whole island situation. I guess the sticking point is "developed", I will grant that ok maybe he didn't "develop" him per se but he definitely put him in a position to succeed No arguments there.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Mar 3, 2015 16:36:45 GMT -5
I guess the sticking point is "developed", I will grant that ok maybe he didn't "develop" him per se but he definitely put him in a position to succeed I don't think Rex necessary developed Revis. It was pretty obvious that Revis was extremely talented even during his up and down rookie year. During his second year you could really see the lights go on for him and he started gain confidence. What Rex did for him was allow him to show his incredible talent by leaving him alone. He might not have become a household name as quickly without Rex.
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Post by jcappy on Mar 3, 2015 17:25:49 GMT -5
I find it kind of funny that his likely landing place at this point is pretty much any team in the AFCE. None of them would be surprising, hes got connections with all four teams. Guy is like the neighborhood bike
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Post by Aussie Jet on Mar 3, 2015 17:49:16 GMT -5
I tend to think that this is all moot and he'll re-sign with the Cheatriots before they have to release him to avoid triggering the option on him for next season. I also tend to think that this is just trying to drive up the cost of the Cheatriots re-signing him.
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Post by Touchable on Mar 3, 2015 17:55:28 GMT -5
I tend to think that this is all moot and he'll re-sign with the Cheatriots before they have to release him to avoid triggering the option on him for next season. I also tend to think that this is just trying to drive up the cost of the Cheatriots re-signing him. I don't see any way that happens. The Jets, Jags and Raiders are all going to potentially have $60+ million to play with in FA and ALL of those teams have a need at CB. You don't think that Revis of all people will want to hit the open market? This is literally Revis' last chance for another big money, longterm deal.
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Post by guidoyaz on Mar 3, 2015 18:21:11 GMT -5
Awesome. Tampering.
I wonder how the NEP will use that shiny new, extra 3rd or 4rth?
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Post by Touchable on Mar 3, 2015 18:42:58 GMT -5
Awesome. Tampering. I wonder how the NEP will use that shiny new, extra 3rd or 4rth? It's not tampering you mo-mo.
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