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Post by canadasteve on May 5, 2015 12:59:39 GMT -5
Both he and Powell are good pass catching backs. Backs that can catch are an important piece of Gailey's offense no? Ivory is a bit of a square-peg going forward - but I love how he runs .... Do not be surprised if Ivory gets traded early training camp to a team who suffers an injury. The Jets have under-appreciated Powell, who can catch and block, Ridley, and Stacy. Not to mention Richardson and any UDFA we bring in. Ivory could garner a 3rd round pick I am guessing, is the oldest back we have, and is in the final year of his contract.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 5, 2015 17:09:36 GMT -5
At the end they might keep 4 backs with Ridley, Ivory, Powell and Richardson winning out. Gotta think Stacy will be in the mix there
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Post by Paradis on May 5, 2015 17:30:39 GMT -5
We actually may be good at RB now that I look at it with Belton coming in (assuming he stays for training camp). Ivory and Ridley may not get a lot of pre-season game work, but more than usual given we're installing a new offense. That would leave a lot of reps for Powell/Richardson/Stacy/Belton (or a RB TBD). Yeah I totally forgot about Daryl Richardson. Both he and Powell are good pass catching backs. At the end they might keep 4 backs with Ridley, Ivory, Powell and Richardson winning out. Stacy, Ivory, Powell and Richardson... if that isn't the most underwhelming backfield in the NFL, i don't know what it. Ivory is the only alpha dog there In other news, saw that Cam Worthy finally got picked up by BAL... why we felt a DE from cal-poly-nowhere was a better use than at ONE freaking WR is confusing.
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Post by DowNY on May 6, 2015 13:59:31 GMT -5
Yeah. Wes Saxton > Jeff Cumberland
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 6, 2015 17:15:37 GMT -5
WES SAXTON
OVERVIEW
2014: Played in 12 games with eight starts. Started the first seven games of the season. 2013: First-team All-Sun Belt Conference. Played in all 12 games. 2012: Played in all 13 games with six starts. 2011 (at Itawamba Community College): Second-team All-State MACJC.
PRO DAY RESULTS
Bench press: 19 reps of 225 pounds
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Very quick into his route off the snap. Sticks a foot in the ground and opens up quickly to offer quarterback a clean target with good catch radius. Willing to extend and make tough catches in traffic. Too quick for many linebackers on intermediate routes. Former high school receiver who shows some suddenness out of breaks. Hands-catcher. Traits to be a matchup problem on next level.
WEAKNESSES Move tight end only. Appears to lack the toughness to play in-line. Poor effort as a run blocker and offers no power to secure edge or get movement. Routes are still very raw. Hasn't learned to gain as much separation as his athleticism should allow him. Scouts question how hard he will compete when challenged by NFL toughness.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 5 or 6
SOURCES TELL US "You have to go back and watch his 2013 tape. They made changes in 2014 to the offense and he wasn't the same player. Go watch 2013. That is who he can be in the pros." -- director of scouting for NFC team
BOTTOM LINE Saxton has traits that have opened the eyes of some scouts. He can run and has the length and hands of an NFL tight end. His biggest draft obstacle is that his willingness and/or ability to compete as a run blocker limits his value to a team. Saxton needs to get bigger and show a greater commitment to improving all facets of his game. For now, he is a developmental prospect with athletic traits.
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Post by JetBidi on May 6, 2015 20:46:00 GMT -5
Yeah I totally forgot about Daryl Richardson. Both he and Powell are good pass catching backs. At the end they might keep 4 backs with Ridley, Ivory, Powell and Richardson winning out. Stacy, Ivory, Powell and Richardson... if that isn't the most underwhelming backfield in the NFL, i don't know what it. Ivory is the only alpha dog there In other news, saw that Cam Worthy finally got picked up by BAL... why we felt a DE from cal-poly-nowhere was a better use than at ONE freaking WR is confusing. I think ppl are undervaluing Stacy a lot. He had a fantastic rookie season and averaged almost 4 yds a carry over the last 2 years behind a shitty St. Louis line. His production was limited last year because he only received 76 carries cause the Rams were enamored with their shiny new RB Mason (whose average yds per carry were less than Stacy I believe). Now that they drafted Gurley, see what happens to Mason's production. Can't blame Stacy for wanting to get the hell out of St. Louis. He'd see like 10 touches a year if he stayed. I think Stacy is Ivory's eventual replacement and Powell is the change of pace back.
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Post by Paradis on May 6, 2015 21:10:36 GMT -5
Stacy, Ivory, Powell and Richardson... if that isn't the most underwhelming backfield in the NFL, i don't know what it. Ivory is the only alpha dog there In other news, saw that Cam Worthy finally got picked up by BAL... why we felt a DE from cal-poly-nowhere was a better use than at ONE freaking WR is confusing. I think ppl are undervaluing Stacy a lot. He had a fantastic rookie season and averaged almost 4 yds a carry over the last 2 years behind a shitty St. Louis line. His production was limited last year because he only received 76 carries cause the Rams were enamored with their shiny new RB Mason (whose average yds per carry were less than Stacy I believe). Now that they drafted Gurley, see what happens to Mason's production. Can't blame Stacy for wanting to get the hell out of St. Louis. He'd see like 10 touches a year if he stayed. I think Stacy is Ivory's eventual replacement and Powell is the change of pace back. It's not that Stacy is a terrible RB, cause he isn't - it's just an underwhelming insurance signing of a RB that possesses much of the same of which we already have. It's redundant. They must really like Powell's potential in this scheme, as neither Ridley, nor Richardson or even Stacy are a better than Ivory -- and they all pretty much bring the same thing to the table. Thought we really could have used a guy like David Johnson... Ultimately we're going to have to make a big move next year. They're all pretty much FA in 2016 and we're long over due to bring in a franchise RB.
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Post by jetstream23 on May 7, 2015 0:08:53 GMT -5
I think ppl are undervaluing Stacy a lot. He had a fantastic rookie season and averaged almost 4 yds a carry over the last 2 years behind a shitty St. Louis line. His production was limited last year because he only received 76 carries cause the Rams were enamored with their shiny new RB Mason (whose average yds per carry were less than Stacy I believe). Now that they drafted Gurley, see what happens to Mason's production. Can't blame Stacy for wanting to get the hell out of St. Louis. He'd see like 10 touches a year if he stayed. I think Stacy is Ivory's eventual replacement and Powell is the change of pace back. It's not that Stacy is a terrible RB, cause he isn't - it's just an underwhelming insurance signing of a RB that possesses much of the same of which we already have. It's redundant. They must really like Powell's potential in this scheme, as neither Ridley, nor Richardson or even Stacy are a better than Ivory -- and they all pretty much bring the same thing to the table. Thought we really could have used a guy like David Johnson... Ultimately we're going to have to make a big move next year. They're all pretty much FA in 2016 and we're long over due to bring in a franchise RB. Agree 100%. We have a whole lot of average at the RB position. The field is crowded and all the guys are middling, meaning they're average to possibly a slight bit above average (Ivory). I'm not sure what the plans are at FB with Bohanon but I can't see us keeping Ivory, Powell, Ridley AND Stacy on this team. I think we'll have 3 and not 4 RBs.
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Post by joepnyj1 on May 7, 2015 5:08:50 GMT -5
It's not that Stacy is a terrible RB, cause he isn't - it's just an underwhelming insurance signing of a RB that possesses much of the same of which we already have. It's redundant. They must really like Powell's potential in this scheme, as neither Ridley, nor Richardson or even Stacy are a better than Ivory -- and they all pretty much bring the same thing to the table. Thought we really could have used a guy like David Johnson... Ultimately we're going to have to make a big move next year. They're all pretty much FA in 2016 and we're long over due to bring in a franchise RB. Agree 100%. We have a whole lot of average at the RB position. The field is crowded and all the guys are middling, meaning they're average to possibly a slight bit above average (Ivory). I'm not sure what the plans are at FB with Bohanon but I can't see us keeping Ivory, Powell, Ridley AND Stacy on this team. I think we'll have 3 and not 4 RBs. Ugh what a frustrating game last night! . Anyways back to the subject. I actually agree with you and paradis we are lacking a true game changer at RB. Ivory is a good back when he doesn't get nicked up, Ridley will probably be a step slower and Stacy is a plodder. I really liked our day 1 and 2 picks but wasn't too crazy about day 3. I also agree we should of drafted DJ or even Cobb In The 4th.
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Post by RageATL on May 7, 2015 5:15:49 GMT -5
Both he and Powell are good pass catching backs. Backs that can catch are an important piece of Gailey's offense no? Ivory is a bit of a square-peg going forward - but I love how he runs .... I never got this. It's like CI wants to be like Marshawn, but lacks any kind of smoothness to his running style. He's so damn herky-jerky.
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Post by Lithfan on May 7, 2015 8:56:56 GMT -5
From Draft Insider:
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Post by carlito1171 on May 7, 2015 9:51:10 GMT -5
Yeah. Wes Saxton > Jeff Cumberland Hopefully Amaro takes that next step and keeps working on his blocking so he can play full-time at In line TE...
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Post by Lithfan on May 7, 2015 9:55:57 GMT -5
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Post by heymangold on May 7, 2015 10:38:40 GMT -5
i think taiwan jones might be the replacement for harris.
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Post by jetstream23 on May 7, 2015 11:07:30 GMT -5
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