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Post by TheMo on May 15, 2015 21:11:13 GMT -5
It's telling that a guy with a scouting background (Mac) came in and immediately got rid of Bradaway. Additionally, the "new" guys who kept him previously had limited scouting backgrounds. Yeah, either he doesn't respect Bradways opinion enough to keep around or he just wants to bring in guys he knows and has nothing to do with Bradway. Kind of my point, we don't know. He could hate Bradway on every level. I just feel like in such a competitive business, if Bradaway actually had been responsible for awesome picks a guy like Mac would have been aware. Seems like the scouting circles really know each other as far as how good each other are at evaluating. Obviously you are right that we can't know 100% how he is as a scout, but given the evidence I would say it is more probable than not that he is probably not a good scout.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 15, 2015 21:30:40 GMT -5
Yeah, either he doesn't respect Bradways opinion enough to keep around or he just wants to bring in guys he knows and has nothing to do with Bradway. Kind of my point, we don't know. He could hate Bradway on every level. I just feel like in such a competitive business, if Bradaway actually had been responsible for awesome picks a guy like Mac would have been aware. Seems like the scouting circles really know each other as far as how good each other are at evaluating. Obviously you are right that we can't know 100% how he is as a scout, but given the evidence I would say it is more probable than not that he is probably not a good scout. LOL
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 15, 2015 21:48:04 GMT -5
Yeah, either he doesn't respect Bradways opinion enough to keep around or he just wants to bring in guys he knows and has nothing to do with Bradway. Kind of my point, we don't know. He could hate Bradway on every level. I just feel like in such a competitive business, if Bradaway actually had been responsible for awesome picks a guy like Mac would have been aware. Seems like the scouting circles really know each other as far as how good each other are at evaluating. Obviously you are right that we can't know 100% how he is as a scout, but given the evidence I would say it is more probable than not that he is probably not a good scout. Not to argue but which is it? If the circles really know each other why did Bradway get hired in Miami in a second? Why did Tanny, who would have first hand knowledge and who had Bradway given to him keep him in NY and then hire him in Miami? Why would others in Miami who also know the same people in the same circles allow Tanny to hire him?
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 15, 2015 21:50:54 GMT -5
I just feel like in such a competitive business, if Bradaway actually had been responsible for awesome picks a guy like Mac would have been aware. Seems like the scouting circles really know each other as far as how good each other are at evaluating. Obviously you are right that we can't know 100% how he is as a scout, but given the evidence I would say it is more probable than not that he is probably not a good scout. LOL Not getting the LOL. Makes good points, we're kind of in agreement, nothing really lol worthy.
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Post by Hotman on May 15, 2015 22:23:33 GMT -5
I just feel like in such a competitive business, if Bradaway actually had been responsible for awesome picks a guy like Mac would have been aware. Seems like the scouting circles really know each other as far as how good each other are at evaluating. Obviously you are right that we can't know 100% how he is as a scout, but given the evidence I would say it is more probable than not that he is probably not a good scout. Not to argue but which is it? If the circles really know each other why did Bradway get hired in Miami in a second? Why did Tanny, who would have first hand knowledge and who had Bradway given to him keep him in NY and then hire him in Miami? Why would others in Miami who also know the same people in the same circles allow Tanny to hire him? Well, it wasn't exactly "in a second" but Tanny is also probably looking for as many push over allies as he can get. He knows Bradway will basically go along with whatever he says.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 15, 2015 23:22:16 GMT -5
Not getting the LOL. Makes good points, we're kind of in agreement, nothing really lol worthy. "More probable than not" reference
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 15, 2015 23:23:59 GMT -5
I just feel like in such a competitive business, if Bradaway actually had been responsible for awesome picks a guy like Mac would have been aware. Seems like the scouting circles really know each other as far as how good each other are at evaluating. Obviously you are right that we can't know 100% how he is as a scout, but given the evidence I would say it is more probable than not that he is probably not a good scout. Not to argue but which is it? If the circles really know each other why did Bradway get hired in Miami in a second? Why did Tanny, who would have first hand knowledge and who had Bradway given to him keep him in NY and then hire him in Miami? Why would others in Miami who also know the same people in the same circles allow Tanny to hire him? Because Tanny has no idea what he's doing, no idea who is a good scout or bad scout. He's the one that ignored Bradway's advice about Wilson, remember? He's hiring who he knows and feels comfortable with, this is how most hires are made, has little to do with competence (which neither of them has and they which they proved over a long span of time) Blind leading the blind is a phrase that comes to mind
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 15, 2015 23:28:56 GMT -5
Thats too easy. But why would a new GM read fucked up scouting reports and trust his job and legacy to a guy who sucks. That makes no sense Because he's incontinent? LOL very funny Mr. "Stream"
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 16, 2015 1:02:36 GMT -5
Not getting the LOL. Makes good points, we're kind of in agreement, nothing really lol worthy. "More probable than not" reference Got, how did I miss it? Lol
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Post by joepnyj1 on May 16, 2015 6:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by Slackjaw on May 16, 2015 6:23:33 GMT -5
Thats too easy. But why would a new GM read fucked up scouting reports and trust his job and legacy to a guy who sucks. That makes no sense Because he's incontinent? Yea he is a real pisser. Glad he is out of here and down there
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Post by DDNYjets on May 16, 2015 6:38:17 GMT -5
FWIW Bradway is regarded as a top scout in the NFL. I have heard the likes of Casserly and Polian say something to that effect. So he has that going for him. Whatever the case may be, I am glad he is taking his talents elsewhere. I wouldn't read too much into Tanny bringing him in. Team VPs and GMs all have their buddy lists. Why do you think someone like Scott Pioli keeps getting hired? Tanny is comfortable with Bradway. And I am very comfortable with both of them being in Miami.
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Post by TheMo on May 16, 2015 16:40:00 GMT -5
I just feel like in such a competitive business, if Bradaway actually had been responsible for awesome picks a guy like Mac would have been aware. Seems like the scouting circles really know each other as far as how good each other are at evaluating. Obviously you are right that we can't know 100% how he is as a scout, but given the evidence I would say it is more probable than not that he is probably not a good scout. Not to argue but which is it? If the circles really know each other why did Bradway get hired in Miami in a second? Why did Tanny, who would have first hand knowledge and who had Bradway given to him keep him in NY and then hire him in Miami? Why would others in Miami who also know the same people in the same circles allow Tanny to hire him? Very legitimate. But I really think Tanny doesn't know what he's doing from a scouting perspective. Pretty solid cap guy, but doesn't get the other aspects of the job at all. Thus him hiring Bradaway. I think he is going with someone he knows because he has no idea how to assess people related to the player assessment portion of the FO. Also glad you got my hidden pats trolling in that first quote i do my best to call out those cheating motherfuckers up north
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 16, 2015 17:15:07 GMT -5
Not to argue but which is it? If the circles really know each other why did Bradway get hired in Miami in a second? Why did Tanny, who would have first hand knowledge and who had Bradway given to him keep him in NY and then hire him in Miami? Why would others in Miami who also know the same people in the same circles allow Tanny to hire him? Very legitimate. But I really think Tanny doesn't know what he's doing from a scouting perspective. Pretty solid cap guy, but doesn't get the other aspects of the job at all. Thus him hiring Bradaway. I think he is going with someone he knows because he has no idea how to assess people related to the player assessment portion of the FO. Also glad you got my hidden pats trolling in that first quote i do my best to call out those cheating motherfuckers up north Not doubting that this is a distinct possibility. Just playing devils advocate. Don't think it's set in stone that Bradeay is clueless off of what GMs he reported to did with picks, trades and free agency. He doesn't have a bad rep like some we've heard about. I agree, Tanny is great with the cap and with the obvious choices like Suh. Picked Bradway because he's a person he's comfortable with and respects. I get the Pats trolling, fun to bust the arrogant fucks while they're scrambling
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Post by TheMo on May 16, 2015 17:19:59 GMT -5
Very legitimate. But I really think Tanny doesn't know what he's doing from a scouting perspective. Pretty solid cap guy, but doesn't get the other aspects of the job at all. Thus him hiring Bradaway. I think he is going with someone he knows because he has no idea how to assess people related to the player assessment portion of the FO. Also glad you got my hidden pats trolling in that first quote i do my best to call out those cheating motherfuckers up north Not doubting that this is a distinct possibility. Just playing devils advocate. Don't think it's set in stone that Bradeay is clueless off of what GMs he reported to did with picks, trades and free agency. He doesn't have a bad rep like some we've heard about. I agree, Tanny is great with the cap and with the obvious choices like Suh. Picked Bradway because he's a person he's comfortable with and respects. I get the Pats trolling, fun to bust the arrogant fucks while they're scrambling Yep definitely agree both are possible given that we don't have the inside scoop. We'll see how Miami drafts in the coming years. Again still won't be a perfect proof of concept, but I think at that point we'll be veering past the idea of things being a coincidence. At that point I would say it's about as likely as 11 footballs all being deflated at the same time. No one would argue that as coincidence... oh wait...
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