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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 16, 2015 7:23:57 GMT -5
I dunno. I think we are the worst team in the division, at least on paper. MIA and NE have much better QBs and Buffalo has a better overall roster than ours. We are going to be Rex's Super Bowl twice this year and Brady will be back by the time we play those scumbags. I think 2 wins in the division is all we might get this year.
Oakland, Cleveland, Tennessee and Jax should be wins. So that is 6. I think we beat Washington so that is 7. Would LOVE to beat the Giants but who the fuck knows.
7-9 or 8-8 seem like good calls. Since I am SOJF I will go with 7-9.
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Post by Lithfan on Jun 16, 2015 7:27:07 GMT -5
There's a lot of optimism here - based on pretty much - nothing. Other than the cornerback position being greatly improved. No one knows how good of a coach Bowles will be. But improving the secondary and getting one good WR will win us 5-6 more games Well let's see. We've got two guys who are not John Idzik and Rex Ryan so that's a start. But those guys still don't have a solid QB, they went and got the same two CBs that helped take Rex to the two AFC Championship games, and almost comedicly by happenstance they drafted yet ANOTHER defensive lineman in the Top 10. I kinda feel like I'm in a fricken time machine. For all intensive purposes this is a remarkably similar team to the 2009-2011 Jets. Everyone in their mother knows this. So the question is whether we shoud really expect different results? Biggest difference between those two teams is O Line. The 09-10 teams had one of the best O Lines in the game -- Brick and Mangold in their primes, Faneca, Moore and Woody. That was a great line. Last year's line was average at best and we are still trying to piece the OL together for the upcoming season.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 16, 2015 9:00:34 GMT -5
Well let's see. We've got two guys who are not John Idzik and Rex Ryan so that's a start. But those guys still don't have a solid QB, they went and got the same two CBs that helped take Rex to the two AFC Championship games, and almost comedicly by happenstance they drafted yet ANOTHER defensive lineman in the Top 10. I kinda feel like I'm in a fricken time machine. For all intensive purposes this is a remarkably similar team to the 2009-2011 Jets. Everyone in their mother knows this. So the question is whether we shoud really expect different results? Biggest difference between those two teams is O Line. The 09-10 teams had one of the best O Lines in the game -- Brick and Mangold in their primes, Faneca, Moore and Woody. That was a great line. Last year's line was average at best and we are still trying to piece the OL together for the upcoming season. The OL has been a concern of mine for about 2 or 3 years now. Brick and Mangold have been carrying the unit but how long can we expect them to remain at a high level? The last time we invested first rounders in the OL it paid off huge. I think the new CBA makes it real hard to develop OL. We need to draft NFL ready players on the OL and that means spending first round picks.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 16, 2015 10:10:23 GMT -5
Well let's see. We've got two guys who are not John Idzik and Rex Ryan so that's a start. But those guys still don't have a solid QB, they went and got the same two CBs that helped take Rex to the two AFC Championship games, and almost comedicly by happenstance they drafted yet ANOTHER defensive lineman in the Top 10. I kinda feel like I'm in a fricken time machine. For all intensive purposes this is a remarkably similar team to the 2009-2011 Jets. Everyone in their mother knows this. So the question is whether we shoud really expect different results? Biggest difference between those two teams is O Line. The 09-10 teams had one of the best O Lines in the game -- Brick and Mangold in their primes, Faneca, Moore and Woody. That was a great line. Last year's line was average at best and we are still trying to piece the OL together for the upcoming season. Good point, also two really good RB's each year in TJ and LT
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 16, 2015 10:16:03 GMT -5
I dunno. I think we are the worst team in the division, at least on paper. MIA and NE have much better QBs and Buffalo has a better overall roster than ours. We are going to be Rex's Super Bowl twice this year and Brady will be back by the time we play those scumbags. I think 2 wins in the division is all we might get this year. Oakland, Cleveland, Tennessee and Jax should be wins. So that is 6. I think we beat Washington so that is 7. Would LOVE to beat the Giants but who the fuck knows. 7-9 or 8-8 seem like good calls. Since I am SOJF I will go with 7-9. I don't know why people are chalking up Oakland and TN as easy wins. We struggled to beat Oakland last year, and this year they will probably be improved, and we have struggled with TN the last two times we played them and they are certain to be improved.
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Post by jets.penguin on Jun 16, 2015 11:41:07 GMT -5
There's a lot of optimism here - based on pretty much - nothing. Other than the cornerback position being greatly improved. No one knows how good of a coach Bowles will be. But improving the secondary and getting one good WR will win us 5-6 more games ok thats more than fair........I do believe we lost more than a few games because of the lack of solid CB's and have felt for years that our pisss poor WR situation hampered the offense. Despite the many changes in OC, WR and QB at the end of the day I at my core believe that the line is the issue and once we solve that puzzle we will significantly improve. I have no idea how well Bowles will do, he gives the impression that he is even keeled, well informed, has a lot of experience, the right pedigree and handles the media well. None of this means he can coach but if he is faking he is doing a damn good job of it. He likes to keep the conversation focused on coaching, is a former player himself who has been to the mountain top. I gotta tell you if now isnt the time to have optimism then I don't know when is. If I'm trying to draw conclusions (and I am) then I'd say right from the get go we look better than we did last year at this time. I will say that Bowles wasnt my first choice and I thought Gailey was a bad decision because he was out of the game and apparently no-one else wanted or was even talking to him. This is one time I would be thrilled to be dead wrong.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 16, 2015 17:13:20 GMT -5
There's a lot of optimism here - based on pretty much - nothing. Other than the cornerback position being greatly improved. No one knows how good of a coach Bowles will be. But improving the secondary and getting one good WR will win us 5-6 more games Yeah that and the WR position being totally upgraded. The RB position getting depth. The backup QB is actually an option. Gene hopefully gaining something from another year exp, hopefully those last 5 games are something. The OC being a real OC. Another stud on the DL. And of course the best CB added along with a very good man CB
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 17:43:00 GMT -5
It'd better be 11-5, mo$%^fu^&*(r!
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Post by sdjetsetter on Jun 17, 2015 11:38:25 GMT -5
8-8
Bash me if you will, but i wont fall into the camp fodder on Geno being "better, more accurate, and the game slowing down for him"
Until he proves otherwise, Geno is still liability #1 on this team. Too important of a position on the field to assume improvement.
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Post by Vondarkmoor on Jun 17, 2015 13:54:27 GMT -5
We're all about the 10-6 after coaching changes It would have to be the coaching. Nothing to do with any personnel upgrades. Yep.
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Post by Warfish on Jun 17, 2015 20:21:20 GMT -5
If Smith starts opening day, 7-9
If Fitz starts opening day, 9-7
+/- 1 game worse for either QB tbh.
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Post by eboozer32 on Jun 19, 2015 6:36:28 GMT -5
Well let's see. We've got two guys who are not John Idzik and Rex Ryan so that's a start. But those guys still don't have a solid QB, they went and got the same two CBs that helped take Rex to the two AFC Championship games, and almost comedicly by happenstance they drafted yet ANOTHER defensive lineman in the Top 10. I kinda feel like I'm in a fricken time machine. For all intensive purposes this is a remarkably similar team to the 2009-2011 Jets. Everyone in their mother knows this. So the question is whether we shoud really expect different results? Biggest difference between those two teams is O Line. The 09-10 teams had one of the best O Lines in the game -- Brick and Mangold in their primes, Faneca, Moore and Woody. That was a great line. Last year's line was average at best and we are still trying to piece the OL together for the upcoming season. What I Love about the Gailey hire will be his ability to game plan according to each Defense he faces. Bowles is off the hook for having to tell the OC how he wants to attack offensively. The other thing that is in our favor is the strong veteran presence on both lines, secondary and WR positions... these guys will know how to get the job done. 10-6
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Post by JB1089 on Jun 20, 2015 2:55:14 GMT -5
I say 8-8 based on the fact that we'll have bad QB play again. That said, I think it's more likely that we finish 9-7 or better than 7-9 or worse.
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Post by jetsfanatic on Jun 21, 2015 16:33:52 GMT -5
It all depends on the QB. I'm being optimistic and saying 11-5.
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Post by ftljetfan on Jun 22, 2015 11:59:31 GMT -5
As much as it pains me to say i see 7-9 or 8-8.
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