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Post by Peebag on Jun 30, 2015 14:56:37 GMT -5
I was all in Geno's corner until last year's San Diego game. If you go back and take a look at the game, he looks like he just go overwhelmed. Don't think he got over it for the entire season. I just had the sense that the game is just played way too fast for him. Maybe in a few years it will start to slow down but I just don't think it will.
Either way I don't think we can wait that long.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 30, 2015 19:17:47 GMT -5
And if he does that again the start of this year, fine, but at least we know we can finally move on from him and know for sure that he's not the answer for this team. But if they're gonna start Geno, let him play. No need to reel it in and completely shackle him down after a couple of picks and hope he gets it. I'm really interested to see how Bowles coaches this team and how he handles the QB. Especially coming from Arians. Cardinals didn't exactly abandon the passing game once Palmer went down. If Marshall and Decker stay healthy, I really think we'll see some good QB play from Geno that will win this team some games. As long as the oline keeps him upright... but that's a whole other story. believe it or not, the oline did a good job keeping geno upright last season. he simply held the ball too long an was his own worst enemy in this regard. no excuses this year. Geno went from 45+ sacks his rookie year to 28 or so sacks. He didn't hold it too long often, that's a good number, especially for a QB who likes to run
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 30, 2015 19:21:22 GMT -5
I was all in Geno's corner until last year's San Diego game. If you go back and take a look at the game, he looks like he just go overwhelmed. Don't think he got over it for the entire season. I just had the sense that the game is just played way too fast for him. Maybe in a few years it will start to slow down but I just don't think it will. Either way I don't think we can wait that long. Season didn't end in SD. Players don't get dumped for one game. Over the final quarter of the season Geno had a 105.3 passer rating, ranked third in football, he completed 65.1% of his passes he had six touchdowns and just two interceptions.
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Post by Peebag on Jun 30, 2015 20:07:21 GMT -5
I was all in Geno's corner until last year's San Diego game. If you go back and take a look at the game, he looks like he just go overwhelmed. Don't think he got over it for the entire season. I just had the sense that the game is just played way too fast for him. Maybe in a few years it will start to slow down but I just don't think it will. Either way I don't think we can wait that long. Season didn't end in SD. Players don't get dumped for one game. Over the final quarter of the season Geno had a 105.3 passer rating, ranked third in football, he completed 65.1% of his passes he had six touchdowns and just two interceptions. yea it pretty much did end in SD - the last part of the season was the Jets just going through the motions. Geno hasn't played in a meaningful game yet.
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Post by Aussie Jet on Jun 30, 2015 21:03:09 GMT -5
I agree Rex is not a coach who should be anywhere near a young QB but is there any NFL coach who would not have coached Geno against turnovers or try to limit his turnovers? Theres a difference between trying to limit his turnovers and just telling your QB not to throw it. Put him in better situations, play to his strengths, call plays he's comfortable with, etc. Rex made his QBs think WAY too much. I again recall something Dawidoff wrote about Sanchez and Schotty in Collision Low Crossers. Someone on the offence (might have been Holmes, memory is a bit sketchy) said to Dawidoff after the Jets lost that Schotty made the playbook too difficult for Sanchez to actually see which of his receivers were open. The Jets opponent (I think the Giants) preferred a lot of bunch formations so that Eli could see which of his receivers was open really quickly so he could get the ball out to the open man, whereas the Jets spread their receivers across the field all the time and Sanchez didn't have the time to see which of his receivers had got open. To the point of the topic, the Jets have done a good job this off-season with putting weapons around Geno. Marshall should be a good wide receiver Geno to have; an experienced and strong wide receiver with a big catch radius. Decker slides back to the "no 2" receiver and therefore has to cope with less attention from opposing DBs. Devin Smith should be able to take the top off the defence from time to time with some long gains. Kerley can operate underneath while a combination of Ivory/Stacy/Ridley/Powell can take care of the running game. The Jets didn't do much to upgrade the TE position, but to be fair to them, there wasn't much out there to upgrade to, even if they wanted to get rid of Cumberland. So it's really up to Geno to turn what could be a good offence on paper into a good offence in reality. He's working with an offensive coordinator who says publicly (and his past shows) that he's prepared to tailor the offence to the personnel, which hopefully for Geno he returns to an offence he made work at WVU. But given that neither Maccagnan nor Bowles have any ties to Geno, his leash will be reasonably short. They'll be prepared to move on from him, put Fitzpatrick in as the placeholder and work on developing Petty and/or the 2016 draft pick.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jul 1, 2015 11:15:44 GMT -5
Season didn't end in SD. Players don't get dumped for one game. Over the final quarter of the season Geno had a 105.3 passer rating, ranked third in football, he completed 65.1% of his passes he had six touchdowns and just two interceptions. yea it pretty much did end in SD - the last part of the season was the Jets just going through the motions. Geno hasn't played in a meaningful game yet. No, the season isn't one game. Games like the Pats in NE are never meaningless to fans or players. These are just ways to lessen the good streak a player we don't like went through. We don't argue how good a player was according to cherry picked games, they all count.
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