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Post by Touchable on Dec 21, 2014 19:42:07 GMT -5
Strength of Schedule as of last night: 6. Washington (4-11, .477) 5. Jets (3-11, .533) 4. Jaguars (3-12, .505) 3. Raiders (2-12, .571) 2. Bucs (2-12, .470) 1. Titans (2-13, .484) If the Titans are serious about Cutler, they may not even take a QB. Considering Jax and Oakland have young QBs they feel good about, 4 may be enough to get us one of Mariota/Winston. It may be enough to get you Winston, but I don't see any way that Mariota isn't the #1 overall pick. And with the shitload of baggage that Winston comes with, I'd rather just take a kid like Cooper and solidify the receiving corps for the next 3-4 years. Bring in Bradford if at all possible or I guess sign a decent veteran stop gap like Hoyer (although Cleveland would be batshit to let him go with Johnny Dickhole not resembling an NFL QB in the slightest) then reevaluate after 2015. The thing with Winston is that the kid has shown really no maturity off the field through all of this shit. I readily admit that he's talented, but if you want to bring a kid with his obvious red flags to the big city...then you're taking a huge risk and you can't really be surprised in the slightest if he winds up a bust. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Dec 21, 2014 19:42:44 GMT -5
Tiebreaker for draft position is strength of schedule. Head to head does not enter into it. Then what happens if Tennessee wins next week against Houston. I know that Keenum looked ok today but that is completely possible. we would wind up with the same record as them too? Any chance we can get up to 2. I know Jax would have to win too. However, I agree that we should take Cooper with our pick if he is there and then grab a guy like Hundley in the second, Hundley could be just as good as anyone else in this draft, didn't have the talent surrounding him that Mariota or Winston did, but he is a three year starter and has improved every season. Doesn't matter. Titans have a much weaker SOS. They pick ahead of us. |
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Post by Lithfan on Dec 21, 2014 19:43:38 GMT -5
Tiebreaker for draft position is strength of schedule. Head to head does not enter into it. Then what happens if Tennessee wins next week against Houston. I know that Keenum looked ok today but that is completely possible. we would wind up with the same record as them too? Any chance we can get up to 2. I know Jax would have to win too. However, I agree that we should take Cooper with our pick if he is there and then grab a guy like Hundley in the second, Hundley could be just as good as anyone else in this draft, didn't have the talent surrounding him that Mariota or Winston did, but he is a three year starter and has improved every season. No. We are definitely behind Tampa and Tennessee. Best we can do is 3 by losing next week and if the Jags win. Assuming the following strength of schedule as of last night does not change much: 6. Washington (4-11, .477) 5. Jets (3-11, .533) 4. Jaguars (3-12, .505) 3. Raiders (2-12, .571) 2. Bucs (2-12, .470) 1. Titans (2-13, .484) |
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Post by RobR on Dec 21, 2014 19:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by JonEJet on Dec 21, 2014 19:45:35 GMT -5
Cooper or Olineman?
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Post by nyahaybus on Dec 21, 2014 19:46:07 GMT -5
fire rex now make sanjay the interim HC don't fuckit up with a gipper scenario.
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Post by fullblast on Dec 21, 2014 19:50:22 GMT -5
Oakland ends Buffalo's slim playoff chances and we jump ahead in draft position. Good, good.
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Dec 21, 2014 19:51:44 GMT -5
Cooper round 1 and o line round 2 |
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Post by woody56 on Dec 21, 2014 19:56:10 GMT -5
Yeah this team is not accustomed to getting great players |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Dec 21, 2014 19:58:26 GMT -5
Yeah this team is not accustomed to getting great players We're much better off with Percy, his $10mil per year salary, and brittle bones. We need to continue our streak of consecutive drafts picking d-line guys. |
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Post by RobR on Dec 21, 2014 19:58:43 GMT -5
Yeah this team is not accustomed to getting great players Cooper is not a top ten player. Give me Parker or Peat(hoping he declares) or take a shot at one of the QB's. Cooper is a good prospect, not a great prospect. |
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Post by vitony on Dec 21, 2014 20:03:28 GMT -5
Yeah this team is not accustomed to getting great players Cooper is not a top ten player. Give me Parker or Peat(hoping he declares) or take a shot at one of the QB's. Cooper is a good prospect, not a great prospect. Respectfully disagree. Cooper is in the same mold as Julio Jones, AJ Green, Mike Evans etc. He is a big physical WR with top end speed as well. He has a great vertical and great hands. Parker is nice but I worry about him being the next Gholston a physical freak who dominated against college competition but can't do it on the next level. Cooper played against the best anyone had and owned them all with less than stellar QBs |
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Post by vitony on Dec 21, 2014 20:05:03 GMT -5
Cooper round 1 and o line round 2 Cooper round 1. QB round 2. CB from there on out. Oline in FA and depth late in the draft. Man I remember when we would draft solid starters on Oline in the 4th round and on. Wish we could get back to scouting like that again. |
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Post by woody56 on Dec 21, 2014 20:06:44 GMT -5
Yeah this team is not accustomed to getting great players Cooper is not a top ten player. Give me Parker or Peat(hoping he declares) or take a shot at one of the QB's. Cooper is a good prospect, not a great prospect. ha |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Dec 21, 2014 20:06:50 GMT -5
Cooper is not a top ten player. Give me Parker or Peat(hoping he declares) or take a shot at one of the QB's. Cooper is a good prospect, not a great prospect. Respectfully disagree. Cooper is in the same mold as Julio Jones, AJ Green, Mike Evans etc. He is a big physical WR with top end speed as well. He has a great vertical and great hands. Parker is nice but I worry about him being the next Gholston a physical freak who dominated against college competition but can't do it on the next level. Cooper played against the best anyone had and owned them all with less than stellar QBs Gholston dominated one game against jake long and the combine. That's it. Cooper had a much better college career. He is going to be a very good NFL player. |
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