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Post by 2foolish on Dec 2, 2016 12:26:53 GMT -5
how is it, if the story is true,that the guy is claiming self-defense after he stood over McKnight and shot him a second time?... Apparently after he shot him the first time he called 911 and said I just killed a man. The dispatcher asked if he was sure. So he said "Hold on" shot him again, came back on the phone and said "Yeah, I'm sure". too soon? no way...
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Post by JStokes on Dec 2, 2016 17:05:14 GMT -5
www.nytimes.com/2016/12/02/sports/football/suspect-in-killing-of-joe-mcknight-former-jets-player-is-freed-without-charge.htmlNew versions of the story coming out. The assailant shot McKnight 3 times, but from the inside of his vehicle. He never stood over him and fired a second time. McKnight was not apologizing. There may be statues in LA regarding "Stand Your Ground" that may play into this. Still, a crazy story. But now, all it is is about race. Was listening to Fatty today and every black guy that called in was claiming the guy was released because he was white--for no other reason and with no direct knowledge of the investigation. In other words, this guy murdered McKnight in cold blood in broad daylight and the cops are letting him off solely because he's white and Joe was black. What a fucked up polarized world we live in. _
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Post by 2foolish on Dec 2, 2016 19:03:09 GMT -5
It's always been like that..
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Post by southside on Dec 2, 2016 19:10:37 GMT -5
If McKnight really pulled him out of his car then he may not be charged...
I must admit, I've fallen for the lies yet again. Is anyone surprised that someone would lie about what they witnessed in a murder?
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Dec 3, 2016 8:19:56 GMT -5
People suck.
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Post by cgjet on Dec 3, 2016 10:31:49 GMT -5
Has to be more to the story, the cops just don't let a guy walk after shooting and killing a guy. I'm not sure about Louisiana law but the whole Florida thing about stand your ground might apply. If that is the case, Joe may of been the aggressor. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it shakes out. Regardless, it's a tragedy for Joe and his family.
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Post by JStokes on Dec 3, 2016 10:43:41 GMT -5
Has to be more to the story, the cops just don't let a guy walk after shooting and killing a guy. I'm not sure about Louisiana law but the whole Florida thing about stand your ground might apply. If that is the case, Joe may of been the aggressor. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it shakes out. Regardless, it's a tragedy for Joe and his family. It's gotta be a whole lot different than what was originally reported. Think about how under scrutiny police forces are nationwide- now even though it didn't involve a policeman shooting--there is no way they are brazenly letting a white guy walk after "murdering" a black guy in broad daylight. Can't happen. Not unless there was something else going on. _
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Post by tkasper01 on Dec 3, 2016 11:04:28 GMT -5
Has to be more to the story, the cops just don't let a guy walk after shooting and killing a guy. I'm not sure about Louisiana law but the whole Florida thing about stand your ground might apply. If that is the case, Joe may of been the aggressor. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it shakes out. Regardless, it's a tragedy for Joe and his family. It's gotta be a whole lot different than what was originally reported. Think about how under scrutiny police forces are nationwide- now even though it didn't involve a policeman shooting--there is no way they are brazenly letting a white guy walk after "murdering" a black guy in broad daylight. Can't happen. Not unless there was something else going on. _ I agree with Stokes. The evidence does not line up with the "eye witnesses" statements. The shooter was inside the car not standing over him. I sure hope there is a security camera somewhere that caught at least part of this. The next 5 to 7 days or so should provide some real good information. Crime scene reenactment, autopsy report and toxicology.
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Post by maury77 on Dec 3, 2016 11:06:25 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the law in Louisiana, but normally, you need to have a reasonable fear that your life is in danger before you can use deadly force to defend yourself. I don't know if the shooter is alleging that McKnight threatened the shooter or tried to pull the shooter out of the car, but the police have not stated that McKnight was armed with anything.
I've gotten out of my car once or twice during a road rage incident and it's the stupidest fucking thing you can do.
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Post by maury77 on Dec 3, 2016 11:07:56 GMT -5
It's gotta be a whole lot different than what was originally reported. Think about how under scrutiny police forces are nationwide- now even though it didn't involve a policeman shooting--there is no way they are brazenly letting a white guy walk after "murdering" a black guy in broad daylight. Can't happen. Not unless there was something else going on. _ I agree with Stokes. The evidence does not line up with the "eye witnesses" statements. The shooter was inside the car not standing over him. I sure hope there is a security camera somewhere that caught at least part of this. The next 5 to 7 days or so should provide some real good information. Crime scene reenactment, autopsy report and toxicology. Even if the shooter stayed in his car the entire time, that may not justify his decision to shoot McKnight. We don't know all the facts and I don't know what the law is in Louisiana with respect to self defense.
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Post by tkasper01 on Dec 3, 2016 11:17:50 GMT -5
I agree with Stokes. The evidence does not line up with the "eye witnesses" statements. The shooter was inside the car not standing over him. I sure hope there is a security camera somewhere that caught at least part of this. The next 5 to 7 days or so should provide some real good information. Crime scene reenactment, autopsy report and toxicology. Even if the shooter stayed in his car the entire time, that may not justify his decision to shoot McKnight. We don't know all the facts and I don't know what the law is in Louisiana with respect to self defense. I agree withya. That was why I said the next 5-7 days will be informative. From the Will Smith shooting I do know they can "stand their ground" kind of like Fl. Not 100% of all the applicable rules that get applied to that stuff though. It sucks no matter the outcome of the investigation to be honest. 28 and dead.
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Post by cgjet on Dec 3, 2016 12:02:47 GMT -5
I'll say this, I've been so engaged that I've been tempted to get out of my car and drag someone out of theirs if they didn't come out on their own. Thankfully, I've always got myself under control. The concealed/open carry laws are a game changer. Think twice before you do it, and stop yourself.
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Post by PK on Dec 3, 2016 16:02:04 GMT -5
The guy was involved in a road rage incident in the same intersection 10 years ago. He followed a person to a gas station, got into a physical altercation, was arrested...and then released without being charged.
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Post by JStokes on Dec 3, 2016 19:54:22 GMT -5
The guy was involved in a road rage incident in the same intersection 10 years ago. He followed a person to a gas station, got into a physical altercation, was arrested...and then released without being charged. Which guy? McKnight or Whitey McWhitey? _
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Post by ryu79 on Dec 3, 2016 22:38:07 GMT -5
The murderer. That dude should be in custody.
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