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Post by Jets Things on Jan 10, 2017 8:31:59 GMT -5
MY veteran QB options: Bortles (word is he may be dealt fairly cheaply), Tyrod, Glennon, Hoyer, McCown. If the Jets opt to go with Petty and/or Hack, you could bring in a cheap vet like a Shaun Hill or Matt McGloin to be the vet backup or even bring back Geno on a short-term deal. Draft? I'm not opposed to drafting another guy high, if the value is there. But my preference is build the rest of the team, see what we have with our young guys, then re-assess in 2018. No to all of them mentioned so far. Draft a CB and some oline bodies and roll with Petty and Hack. We finally go 3-13 2-14 and have a decent shot in 2018 draft to grab a kid like the USC guy or some other strong prospect. If we keep up this middle of the road bullshit we will never get one or have to pull a Rams move and trade away years of our draft capital to get one. Once we have that attracting a strong coach and FA's will be much easier. Fuck it in 2017 baby!! No. Never again.
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Post by heymangold on Jan 10, 2017 8:35:17 GMT -5
Tyrod is a MUST if he's available. we've seen first hand how pedestrian a QB can look in a Rex Ryan offense. it's a run-dominant offense, especially when the RB is a guy like Shady. Tyrod has good numbers while working with a #1 receiver in Robert Woods most of the last few years with Watkins being hurt so much.
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 10, 2017 10:31:28 GMT -5
No. Go with Hack & Petty. Like some others have said, what's the point? So we can win a few more games and be stuck in perpetual suckitude. Go with Hack and Petty and we either sink or swim, no more band aids and 6-8 win seasons. I'd rather go 0-16 next year, finally land the QB we've never had than win 6 games with Tyrod Taylor. I get the logic, and it would not bother me if this was the direction we went in next season, but do you really think this is a realistic possibility -- that we would go into the season with just Hack and Petty. I do not see it happening. I do not see any way that we do not bring in a veteran with some experience to compete with the two young guys. I am assuming we will bring in someone, and if we do, I would prefer that we bring in someone in his 20s with upside who has the potential to be more than just a band-aid. Give me a guy like Taylor or Glennon instead of another aging retread like Fitz, Hoyer or McCown.
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Post by RobR on Jan 10, 2017 10:48:13 GMT -5
No. Go with Hack & Petty. Like some others have said, what's the point? So we can win a few more games and be stuck in perpetual suckitude. Go with Hack and Petty and we either sink or swim, no more band aids and 6-8 win seasons. I'd rather go 0-16 next year, finally land the QB we've never had than win 6 games with Tyrod Taylor. I get the logic, and it would not bother me if this was the direction we went in next season, but do you really think this is a realistic possibility -- that we would go into the season with just Hack and Petty. I do not see it happening. I do not see any way that we do not bring in a veteran with some experience to compete with the two young guys. I am assuming we will bring in someone, and if we do, I would prefer that we bring in someone in his 20s with upside who has the potential to be more than just a band-aid. Give me a guy like Taylor or Glennon instead of another aging retread like Fitz, Hoyer or McCown. Obviously they are going to have to bring in some type of vet. How about someone like McGloin. He has some experience, is young, will be cheap, and we can lose with him also. Taylor or Glennon means making a commitment to mediocrity for the foreseeable future and that I can't get on board with.
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Post by mrcoops on Jan 10, 2017 11:00:45 GMT -5
I get the logic, and it would not bother me if this was the direction we went in next season, but do you really think this is a realistic possibility -- that we would go into the season with just Hack and Petty. I do not see it happening. I do not see any way that we do not bring in a veteran with some experience to compete with the two young guys. I am assuming we will bring in someone, and if we do, I would prefer that we bring in someone in his 20s with upside who has the potential to be more than just a band-aid. Give me a guy like Taylor or Glennon instead of another aging retread like Fitz, Hoyer or McCown. Obviously they are going to have to bring in some type of vet. How about someone like McGloin. He has some experience, is young, will be cheap, and we can lose with him also. Taylor or Glennon means making a commitment to mediocrity for the foreseeable future and that I can't get on board with. I have a strange feeling that we do end up with McGloin. Has some experience, wants a chance to compete to start, will certainly come cheap. Unless we go all out to find a franchise quality guy from somewhere, I could definitely see a McGloin, Petty and Hack type option for us in 2017.
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Post by RobR on Jan 10, 2017 11:09:07 GMT -5
Unless we go all out to find a franchise quality guy from somewhere, I could definitely see a McGloin, Petty and Hack type option for us in 2017. And I would be totally fine with that. No need to hitch our wagon to guys like Taylor and Glennon who neither will ever win it all. It's Lombardi trophy for me or bust.
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 10, 2017 11:10:52 GMT -5
I get the logic, and it would not bother me if this was the direction we went in next season, but do you really think this is a realistic possibility -- that we would go into the season with just Hack and Petty. I do not see it happening. I do not see any way that we do not bring in a veteran with some experience to compete with the two young guys. I am assuming we will bring in someone, and if we do, I would prefer that we bring in someone in his 20s with upside who has the potential to be more than just a band-aid. Give me a guy like Taylor or Glennon instead of another aging retread like Fitz, Hoyer or McCown. Obviously they are going to have to bring in some type of vet. How about someone like McGloin. He has some experience, is young, will be cheap, and we can lose with him also. Taylor or Glennon means making a commitment to mediocrity for the foreseeable future and that I can't get on board with. I am not sure a commitment to Taylor or Glennon is a commitment to mediocrity. They both have bust potential, but they also have upside and youth to be that potential franchise QB. Glennon has never had the opportunity to be a regular starter in this league. He is an unknown to me and he could suck, but maybe, just maybe, he can be a franchise QB. As for Taylor, he has had a lot of success running a gimmicky offense. Not sure how that could translate to a more traditional offense, but I think there is some significant upside potential. I would not have a problem with McGloin either. Even if we finish 2-14 with the number 1 pick, there is no guarantee that Darnold/Rosen/Jackson/Rudolph/etc or any of the other guys coming out in 2018 will not bust. I would rather roll the dice in 2017, try to find lightning in a bottle with a young vet with upside (or 1 of the guys on our roster). If it doesn't work out, then we take our shot in the draft in 2018.
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Post by RobR on Jan 10, 2017 11:14:26 GMT -5
I am not sure a commitment to Taylor or Glennon is a commitment to mediocrity. They both have bust potential, but they also have upside and youth to be that potential franchise QB. Glennon has never had the opportunity to be a regular starter in this league. He is an unknown to me and he could suck, but maybe, just maybe, he can be a franchise QB. As for Taylor, he has had a lot of success running a gimmicky offense. Not sure how that could translate to a more traditional offense, but I think there is some significant upside potential. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Post by Jets Things on Jan 10, 2017 11:18:02 GMT -5
I am not sure a commitment to Taylor or Glennon is a commitment to mediocrity. They both have bust potential, but they also have upside and youth to be that potential franchise QB. Glennon has never had the opportunity to be a regular starter in this league. He is an unknown to me and he could suck, but maybe, just maybe, he can be a franchise QB. As for Taylor, he has had a lot of success running a gimmicky offense. Not sure how that could translate to a more traditional offense, but I think there is some significant upside potential. We'll just have to agree to disagree. You're both idiots. Now kiss.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jan 10, 2017 11:59:36 GMT -5
Can we just tank 2017 and draft Sam Darnold in 2018 if he declares?
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Post by mrcoops on Jan 10, 2017 12:12:18 GMT -5
Can we just tank 2017 and draft Sam Darnold in 2018 if he declares? Never want to tank a season before it starts. People in the past have wanted to tank seasons for Barkley and Manziel. That wouldn't have been a good idea. No-one tanked seasons for Wilson or Prescott.
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Post by tkasper01 on Jan 10, 2017 12:32:45 GMT -5
No to all of them mentioned so far. Draft a CB and some oline bodies and roll with Petty and Hack. We finally go 3-13 2-14 and have a decent shot in 2018 draft to grab a kid like the USC guy or some other strong prospect. If we keep up this middle of the road bullshit we will never get one or have to pull a Rams move and trade away years of our draft capital to get one. Once we have that attracting a strong coach and FA's will be much easier. Fuck it in 2017 baby!! No. Never again. Sanchez never looked as good as that kid did in the Rose bowl game. Plus he will have more starts under his belt than Sanchez as well. Who else is available in '18? Just been a fan since Nov of '69 and I am tired of the bullshit 6-10, 8-8, 7-9 life we have.
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Post by maury77 on Jan 10, 2017 12:36:08 GMT -5
The one name no one mentions that I think is a possibility (although not one that I would be thrilled about) is Case Keenum. Maccagnan was in Houston when Keenum was drafted.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 10, 2017 13:12:55 GMT -5
Thoughts on the Clemson QB? The guy might be there when we pick and I don't know anything about the guy.
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Post by shakin on Jan 10, 2017 13:37:43 GMT -5
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