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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 16, 2017 23:02:57 GMT -5
I don't think it will be anything close to $36 mill guaranteed to land Glennon.
This is the part that tells me some of you aren't completely checked in with reality. Do we have exclusive rights to Glennon? No... so why the hell would he settle for 16-18 mil guaranteed, when someone else is going to offer him Brock-lite money? Dude, you're looking at 30+ mil guaranteed to land Glennon. Guaranteed. There are what, 5 NFL teams in the market for QBs this offseason? Browns, Niners, Bears, Bills and Jets. 4 of those teams are in a position to draft a QB if they do choose to do so. You can scratch the Browns off the Glennon list immediately. They aren't going to go after someone like that. So it's really 4 potential suitors for him. That's assuming the Niners and Bears don't draft a QB or go after someone in a trade instead. Glennon is going to have a market, but I don't think it's going to be multiple teams falling all over themselves to do it. Not after the Osweiler fiasco. That situation hurts him, not help him.
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Post by johnnyhector on Jan 16, 2017 23:08:37 GMT -5
Reports are coming out that Rivers doesn't want to move to LA saying SF as possible landing destination
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Post by Paradis on Jan 16, 2017 23:09:42 GMT -5
This is the part that tells me some of you aren't completely checked in with reality. Do we have exclusive rights to Glennon? No... so why the hell would he settle for 16-18 mil guaranteed, when someone else is going to offer him Brock-lite money? Dude, you're looking at 30+ mil guaranteed to land Glennon. Guaranteed. There are what, 5 NFL teams in the market for QBs this offseason? Browns, Niners, Bears, Bills and Jets. 4 of those teams are in a position to draft a QB if they do choose to do so. You can scratch the Browns off the Glennon list immediately. They aren't going to go after someone like that. So it's really 4 potential suitors for him. That's assuming the Niners and Bears don't draft a QB or go after someone in a trade instead. Glennon is going to have a market, but I don't think it's going to be multiple teams falling all over themselves to do it. Not after the Osweiler fiasco. That situation hurts him, not help him. there were less last year, and look what brock got... and he looked worse than Glennon in spot starts!
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 16, 2017 23:20:23 GMT -5
And I guess maybe that's where I differ on the Glennon thing. I guess I don't think it's necessarily going to take a huge deal or a long deal to walk away with him. If it does, then I agree, don't do it. I was under the assumption he'd be able to be had on a contract that could be walked away from after about 2 years. I could be way off base. I wouldn't mind Glennon, but I don't think he's worth it. This isn't a 1 or 2 year rebuild. This is a 3-5 year rebuild and Glennon is not good enough to be part of that future. You also said Glennon wouldn't hurt our rebuild, but if you're tanking for a top QB 1 extra win matters. Glennon is the type of QB that leads a team to 5-11. 5-11 will never get you a top 3 pick. I'd rather watch a bunch of young kids suck and go 1-15 or 2-14 than go 5-11. Mac fucked up by blowing his load his first year. His poor drafting and signing high priced vets will be the end of him. Right now his job is tied to Hack.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 16, 2017 23:41:56 GMT -5
Jets need to wait to see if Glennon has any other suitors. If we're lucky, through the draft and relocation of Cutler and Romo, Glennon will look at the Jets as his best chance to start, in which case I'd only offer a deal that allows the Jets to cut him after the first or second year with very little, or no, dead money.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 16, 2017 23:56:14 GMT -5
Jets need to wait to see if Glennon has any other suitors. If we're lucky, through the draft and relocation of Cutler and Romo, Glennon will look at the Jets as his best chance to start, in which case I'd only offer a deal that allows the Jets to cut him after the first or second year with very little, or no, dead money. We were Fitz's best and only option this past year. Yet we still paid him 12 mil this year and 5 mil next year even if we cut him. I don't trust our staff to sign anyone to a good deal.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 16, 2017 23:58:10 GMT -5
I don't think it will be anything close to $36 mill guaranteed to land Glennon.
This is the part that tells me some of you aren't completely checked in with reality. Do we have exclusive rights to Glennon? No... so why the hell would he settle for 16-18 mil guaranteed, when someone else is going to offer him Brock-lite money? Dude, you're looking at 30+ mil guaranteed to land Glennon. Guaranteed. I'm not buying it If he wants batshit money, then like I said, sign some dickbag vet like Hoyer or McGloin. But I'm not seeing some batshit crazy market for Glennon. I expect him to get a 3 year deal worth around $34-36 million, like Coops said, with $16-18 mill guaranteed. That, to me in this current market, is a "let's see" type of deal for a QB who despite showing promise in the past, still hasn't seen meaningful action in 2 years. But the physical tools and intangibles still intrigue me. Like I said...fuck Romo, fuck Tyrod, fuck Cutler, fuck Kaepernick and any other name you could possibly throw out. Me and you and many others may prefer to roll with Hack/Petty next season and either swim, or sink and take a Darnold, Rosen or Falk...but that's not happening. We're going to make a move for a QB in all likelihood...so give me the kid who just turned 27 three weeks ago and has shown legitimate promise in the past.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 17, 2017 0:01:05 GMT -5
But I'm not seeing some batshit crazy market for Glennon. There wasn't any market for Fitz, but our dumbass GM wasted 12 mil on him this year and another 5 mil on him next year.
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Post by mrcoops on Jan 17, 2017 3:58:55 GMT -5
But I'm not seeing some batshit crazy market for Glennon. There wasn't any market for Fitz, but our dumbass GM wasted 12 mil on him this year and another 5 mil on him next year. $12M was the total cost - $7M on the 2016 cap, $5M on 2017's. Still a bad deal, but not $17M bad. And c'mon people, no-one is giving Glennon $36M guaranteed. His total deal may value that over 3 years, but half or less will be guaranteed.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 17, 2017 8:05:19 GMT -5
Jets need to wait to see if Glennon has any other suitors. If we're lucky, through the draft and relocation of Cutler and Romo, Glennon will look at the Jets as his best chance to start, in which case I'd only offer a deal that allows the Jets to cut him after the first or second year with very little, or no, dead money. We were Fitz's best and only option this past year. Yet we still paid him 12 mil this year and 5 mil next year even if we cut him. I don't trust our staff to sign anyone to a good deal. Well, if Mac makes the same mistake twice, he deserves to be canned. That said, IMO Mac was intent to play hardball with Fits and was OK with the idea of not signing him, but after Fits' asshat teammates went to the media about how much they needed Fits, Woody told Mac to get a deal done. Hopefully, such an incident would result in Mac telling Woody that he needs to let football people make the football decisions.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 17, 2017 8:06:56 GMT -5
This is the part that tells me some of you aren't completely checked in with reality. Do we have exclusive rights to Glennon? No... so why the hell would he settle for 16-18 mil guaranteed, when someone else is going to offer him Brock-lite money? Dude, you're looking at 30+ mil guaranteed to land Glennon. Guaranteed. There are what, 5 NFL teams in the market for QBs this offseason? Browns, Niners, Bears, Bills and Jets. 4 of those teams are in a position to draft a QB if they do choose to do so. You can scratch the Browns off the Glennon list immediately. They aren't going to go after someone like that. So it's really 4 potential suitors for him. That's assuming the Niners and Bears don't draft a QB or go after someone in a trade instead. Glennon is going to have a market, but I don't think it's going to be multiple teams falling all over themselves to do it. Not after the Osweiler fiasco. That situation hurts him, not help him. And that does not take into consideration the availability of Romo and Cutler.
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Post by Fishooked on Jan 17, 2017 8:18:01 GMT -5
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Post by Stark on Jan 17, 2017 9:02:16 GMT -5
Pass.... we are trying to find a legit franchise QB... roll with the kids until you draft the guy that you believe is the franchise guy... and by kids i obviously mean Petty, and Hack.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Jan 17, 2017 9:50:22 GMT -5
Pass... I'm ready for Petty and Hack to fight it out. May the best win the job, although I'd personally favor Hackenberg.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 10:10:41 GMT -5
Make it happen Christopher.........
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