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Post by peppep on Feb 9, 2017 13:30:31 GMT -5
Jets will give Hack a legit shot.
I think he is considerably more prepared to be an NFL starter than Jet fans give him credit for. Has he improved on his accuracy? We will see. But the kid has all the tools/measurables/talent, smarts, leadership and work ethic you look for in a Franchise QB. Macc will give hi every opportunity to win the starting gig this season.
I.E.- No Glennon or other high priced FA QB, no high draft pick QB, no trade for a QB...Jets will sign a cheap vet to a short term deal as insurance and let Petty battle it out with Hack and a vet for the starting gig.
I would not be surprised if Fournette was drafted 6th overall (if he is there) as well, to give Hack an elite weapon at RB. I would not be surprised (they already signed Winters) if the Jets sign O-line via FA to protect Hack. OR they could re-work the Clady deal, and hold on to Mangold.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Feb 9, 2017 13:44:37 GMT -5
Jets will give Hack a legit shot. I think he is considerably more prepared to be an NFL starter than Jet fans give him credit for. Has he improved on his accuracy? We will see. But the kid has all the tools/measurables/talent, smarts, leadership and work ethic you look for in a Franchise QB. Macc will give hi every opportunity to win the starting gig this season. I.E.- No Glennon or other high priced FA QB, no high draft pick QB, no trade for a QB...Jets will sign a cheap vet to a short term deal as insurance and let Petty battle it out with Hack and a vet for the starting gig. I would not be surprised if Fournette was drafted 6th overall (if he is there) as well, to give Hack an elite weapon at RB. I would not be surprised (they already signed Winters) if the Jets sign O-line via FA to protect Hack. OR they could re-work the Clady deal, and hold on to Mangold. Jets need an elite RB - fournette looks like that guy. Hope they take him but knowing the jets they will go CB or TE - fucking idiots.
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Post by Yankees45 on Feb 9, 2017 13:52:08 GMT -5
Jets will give Hack a legit shot. I think he is considerably more prepared to be an NFL starter than Jet fans give him credit for. Has he improved on his accuracy? We will see. But the kid has all the tools/measurables/talent, smarts, leadership and work ethic you look for in a Franchise QB. Macc will give hi every opportunity to win the starting gig this season. I.E.- No Glennon or other high priced FA QB, no high draft pick QB, no trade for a QB...Jets will sign a cheap vet to a short term deal as insurance and let Petty battle it out with Hack and a vet for the starting gig. I would not be surprised if Fournette was drafted 6th overall (if he is there) as well, to give Hack an elite weapon at RB. I would not be surprised (they already signed Winters) if the Jets sign O-line via FA to protect Hack. OR they could re-work the Clady deal, and hold on to Mangold. Jets need an elite RB - fournette looks like that guy. Hope they take him but knowing the jets they will go CB or TE - fucking idiots. I would trade down 3-4 spots for cook instead of fournette.cook to me is better and fournette is the the rb versio of Sheldon . With those extra picks trade back into end of first round and take Mahomes , but if he has a great combine/pro day , he might go top 15
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Feb 9, 2017 13:59:41 GMT -5
Jets need an elite RB - fournette looks like that guy. Hope they take him but knowing the jets they will go CB or TE - fucking idiots. I would trade down 3-4 spots for cook instead of fournette.cook to me is better and fournette is the the rb versio of Sheldon . With those extra picks trade back into end of first round and take Mahomes , but if he has a great combine/pro day , he might go top 15 Ok. I would take that. But, Macc doesn't seem to be able to make draft day trades. He's like a deer in the headlights on draft day and takes whoever falls into his lap. But, I like your idea if only Macc could pull it off.
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Post by peppep on Feb 9, 2017 14:40:32 GMT -5
Jets need an elite RB - fournette looks like that guy. Hope they take him but knowing the jets they will go CB or TE - fucking idiots. I would trade down 3-4 spots for cook instead of fournette.cook to me is better and fournette is the the rb versio of Sheldon . With those extra picks trade back into end of first round and take Mahomes , but if he has a great combine/pro day , he might go top 15 "fournette is the the rb versio of Sheldon" What do you mean by that? Does Fournette have off field issues? I don't get the comparison. Cook DOES have off field issues. Cook was accused of hitting a woman in the face. He was proved innocent. So lets ignore that one. He was fined for animal abuse. Not cool man. There have been reports of Cook is a heavy drinker an partier and has an entourage of 'thugs'. Now look, this could all just be BS. He could just be a misunderstood but very kind, good kid and Pro's Pro. But it's hard to completely ignore. And its going to be a red flag for scouts and GMs. And NO IMHO Cook is NOT better than Fournette. As good as Cook was and the numbers he put up, I'm not sure how you can argue that he is 'better' than Fournette. They are different. But Fournette seems to clearly be the better talent. Both are very, very, very good RBs.
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Post by peppep on Feb 9, 2017 14:44:40 GMT -5
He's like a deer in the headlights on draft day and takes whoever falls into his lap. What makes you say this? I really don't get the basis for this assumption. What, b/c he was not able to trade up for Tunsil? He traded up for Shell. He's made numerous other trades, most of which worked out well for the Jets (Fitz yr 1, Marshall). So I really don't understand why you would make that judgement. DO you have insider information on some deals that he botched that us fans are not prithee to?
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Feb 9, 2017 14:51:40 GMT -5
He's like a deer in the headlights on draft day and takes whoever falls into his lap. What makes you say this? I really don't get the basis for this assumption. What, b/c he was not able to trade up for Tunsil? He traded up for Shell. He's made numerous other trades, most of which worked out well for the Jets (Fitz yr 1, Marshall). So I really don't understand why you would make that judgement. DO you have insider information on some deals that he botched that us fans are not prithee to? Idzik took shell not Macc. Macc couldn't make a trade during the draft when he was trying to off load mo Wilk. Couldn't make a trade last year when he was trying to off load shell. He can't make a draft day trade to save his life. He's a big dummy.
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Post by peppep on Feb 9, 2017 15:09:57 GMT -5
What makes you say this? I really don't get the basis for this assumption. What, b/c he was not able to trade up for Tunsil? He traded up for Shell. He's made numerous other trades, most of which worked out well for the Jets (Fitz yr 1, Marshall). So I really don't understand why you would make that judgement. DO you have insider information on some deals that he botched that us fans are not prithee to? Idzik took shell not Macc. Macc couldn't make a trade during the draft when he was trying to off load mo Wilk. Couldn't make a trade last year when he was trying to off load shell. He can't make a draft day trade to save his life. He's a big dummy. I was referring to Brandon Shell the OT he traded up for. I'm not sure how you can assume he even wanted to trade Wilk before the draft. That is just something most Jet fans assumed. But the Jets ended up signing Wilk to a long term deal. So they obviously were hearing out offers and if the right one did not come along, they were ready to sign Wilk long term. Which they did. Same thing with Sheldon Richardson. We (as fans) can't really assume Macc was just trying to off-load him. He did his due diligence listening to offers. Sheldon is, indeed, probably on the block. But if the right offer does not come along, I would not be surprised if Macc hold on to him for the 2017 season. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Feb 9, 2017 21:12:20 GMT -5
Idzik took shell not Macc. Macc couldn't make a trade during the draft when he was trying to off load mo Wilk. Couldn't make a trade last year when he was trying to off load shell. He can't make a draft day trade to save his life. He's a big dummy. I was referring to Brandon Shell the OT he traded up for. I'm not sure how you can assume he even wanted to trade Wilk before the draft. That is just something most Jet fans assumed. But the Jets ended up signing Wilk to a long term deal. So they obviously were hearing out offers and if the right one did not come along, they were ready to sign Wilk long term. Which they did. Same thing with Sheldon Richardson. We (as fans) can't really assume Macc was just trying to off-load him. He did his due diligence listening to offers. Sheldon is, indeed, probably on the block. But if the right offer does not come along, I would not be surprised if Macc hold on to him for the 2017 season. There is nothing wrong with that. It has been proven over the years and decades that jet GMs don't know jack shit. Those fucking stupid fucks (including four eyed Maccageek) suck at drafting talent. He took some undersized LB that no one ever heard about and we are expected to give him props? No fucking way. He also drafted the worst QB in the history of college football in the 2nd round. He's a dumb cunt.
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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Feb 10, 2017 1:16:23 GMT -5
Say it like you mean it!?
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Post by Lithfan on Feb 10, 2017 10:55:49 GMT -5
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
We still have a $5MM cap hit for him in 2017 -- the gift that keeps on giving.
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Post by 32Green on Feb 10, 2017 11:04:34 GMT -5
Cant hate on Fitz. He was Fitz before he came here..and he Fitzed as a Jet.
Shocker there.
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Post by Harrier on Feb 10, 2017 11:04:41 GMT -5
5 mil?
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Post by crossfire on Feb 10, 2017 12:28:56 GMT -5
Cant hate on Fitz. He was Fitz before he came here..and he Fitzed as a Jet. Shocker there. The worst thing about Fitz is that he has those Fitz seasons and then can never repeat them. It would've been better for the Jets if he had this past season the first year. Just another in a long line of shitty Jets QBs.
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Post by DDNYjets on Feb 10, 2017 12:51:56 GMT -5
He, without a doubt, had the best season a Jet QB has had during my fandom. We should have enjoyed it and accepted than he would regress to the mean.
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