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Post by vermontjet on Aug 3, 2018 20:55:32 GMT -5
Would you give up our next two first round picks for Mack? Proven pass rusher, defensive player of the year, young . We most likely will be using one of those picks on an unproven college pass rusher anyway. I would consider it. Been looking for a dominant edge rusher since John Abraham left in 2005 !
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Post by Jets Things on Aug 3, 2018 21:39:53 GMT -5
With Mo, Sheldon and Leo in front of him, yes. The defense would be unreal. With the current crop, no. Two first rounders is too much to give up.
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Aug 3, 2018 21:41:23 GMT -5
If do a second next year, and second in 2020. Keep the 1st round picks always.
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Post by Jets Things on Aug 3, 2018 21:42:28 GMT -5
If do a second next year, and second in 2020. Keep the 1st round picks always. I would get behind this considering we can't draft in round 2 for shit.
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Post by vermontjet on Aug 3, 2018 22:29:16 GMT -5
With Mo, Sheldon and Leo in front of him, yes. The defense would be unreal. With the current crop, no. Two first rounders is too much to give up. So you think he is a product of the Raiders system? Who do they have on their line that frees him up? You aren't getting a three time pro bowler and defensive player of the year thats still on his rookie deal for two 2nd round picks boys.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Aug 3, 2018 23:36:43 GMT -5
If do a second next year, and second in 2020. Keep the 1st round picks always. We don’t have a second rounder next year Bring in Binghamton. Come on man. Buffalo stinks but at least it’s better than Binghamton. Ithaca? The waterfalls r nice.
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Post by Jets Things on Aug 4, 2018 7:06:07 GMT -5
With Mo, Sheldon and Leo in front of him, yes. The defense would be unreal. With the current crop, no. Two first rounders is too much to give up. So you think he is a product of the Raiders system? Who do they have on their line that frees him up? You aren't getting a three time pro bowler and defensive player of the year thats still on his rookie deal for two 2nd round picks boys. He's in the last year of his rookie deal, holding out for a new contract and isn't that young at 27. Not saying I wouldn't take him in a heartbeat, but not for 2 first rounders, especially when he could walk after this year.
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Post by Trades on Aug 4, 2018 7:24:28 GMT -5
So you think he is a product of the Raiders system? Who do they have on their line that frees him up? You aren't getting a three time pro bowler and defensive player of the year thats still on his rookie deal for two 2nd round picks boys. He's in the last year of his rookie deal, holding out for a new contract and isn't that young at 27. Not saying I wouldn't take him in a heartbeat, but not for 2 first rounders, especially when he could walk after this year. If we signed him contingent on the trade I think I would do it. He is one of the most dominant young players in the league.
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Post by Jets Things on Aug 4, 2018 8:16:00 GMT -5
He's in the last year of his rookie deal, holding out for a new contract and isn't that young at 27. Not saying I wouldn't take him in a heartbeat, but not for 2 first rounders, especially when he could walk after this year. If we signed him contingent on the trade I think I would do it. He is one of the most dominant young players in the league. He's not going anywhere. Oakland is just letting him sweat.
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Post by cgjet on Aug 4, 2018 8:16:32 GMT -5
No, while Mack is a hell of a player I wouldn't give them two 1st rounders in trade. The Jets have their QB and made some good additions via free agency and will have more money to spend next year. Keep building and spending wisely and the Jets will be back to post season play quickly.
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Post by Touchable on Aug 4, 2018 9:03:44 GMT -5
No
Damn good player, but this team is going to need a LT soon, quality LT’s rarely hit free agency, and we’re already without a 2nd rounder next year.
The next 2-3 offseasons should be all about surrounding Darnold with as much help as possible on offense.
I’d much rather sign a combo of say Anthony Barr/Dante Fowler over trading multiple 1st rounders for Mack and giving him $20 million a year.
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Post by vermontjet on Aug 4, 2018 16:14:51 GMT -5
Yeah I would only consider it if he signed a long term deal along with the trade.
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Post by cgjet on Aug 5, 2018 8:31:46 GMT -5
Mack is 27 years old an is scheduled to make $13.8M on his rookie contract in 2018. He's not happy and wants a raise to $20M+. I guess I'm of the opinion that he needs to honor his contract, play his ass off and get by with the $13.8M then get paid. I realize he's a ton to handle on the field but where does it stop? If you do your job, which I'm sure he eventually will, and more he will get paid. Also, after the Mo and Revis episodes, I'm a bit gun shy of providing the big pay day unless management is 100% sure and I mean 110% sure the recipient will not phone it in and just show up to collect his paycheck.
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Post by Trades on Aug 5, 2018 9:17:09 GMT -5
Mack is 27 years old an is scheduled to make $13.8M on his rookie contract in 2018. He's not happy and wants a raise to $20M+. I guess I'm of the opinion that he needs to honor his contract, play his ass off and get by with the $13.8M then get paid. I realize he's a ton to handle on the field but where does it stop? If you do your job, which I'm sure he eventually will, and more he will get paid. Also, after the Mo and Revis episodes, I'm a bit gun shy of providing the big pay day unless management is 100% sure and I mean 110% sure the recipient will not phone it in and just show up to collect his paycheck. Honestly I can see both sides. One bad injury and your career is over. NFL doesn't have a lot of guaranteed money. On the ownership side you are giving a ton of money up front and no one seems to consider that should be divided up across the years and they only look at base salary when they think about what they are making that year. I think if you can trade for a top player in his prime without giving up the franchise you do it. That said if we did give up 2 first rounders we wouldn't pick until the 3rd round next year but I will take the guarantee over the possibility of getting a blue chip player
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Post by cgjet on Aug 5, 2018 10:06:04 GMT -5
Mack is 27 years old an is scheduled to make $13.8M on his rookie contract in 2018. He's not happy and wants a raise to $20M+. I guess I'm of the opinion that he needs to honor his contract, play his ass off and get by with the $13.8M then get paid. I realize he's a ton to handle on the field but where does it stop? If you do your job, which I'm sure he eventually will, and more he will get paid. Also, after the Mo and Revis episodes, I'm a bit gun shy of providing the big pay day unless management is 100% sure and I mean 110% sure the recipient will not phone it in and just show up to collect his paycheck. Honestly I can see both sides. One bad injury and your career is over. NFL doesn't have a lot of guaranteed money. On the ownership side you are giving a ton of money up front and no one seems to consider that should be divided up across the years and they only look at base salary when they think about what they are making that year. I think if you can trade for a top player in his prime without giving up the franchise you do it. That said if we did give up 2 first rounders we wouldn't pick until the 3rd round next year but I will take the guarantee over the possibility of getting a blue chip player I know what you're saying and am not trying to be argumentative. However, there are very few guarantees in life. It seems more and more athletes feel they are different and entitled to "guarantees." Something bad could happen to you or I which would drastically alter our lives and living standard. That being said, Im an average working guy with no special athletic skills like Mack. If he wants to try to get more money or not honor his contract that's entirely his call. I 'm just stating that in my opinion, losing key draft picks and entering into a huge contract with guarantees is not in the Jets best interest at this time.
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