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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 28, 2019 9:49:13 GMT -5
Jets should trade back grab TJ Hockenson for TE this will fix several things for 1 better blocking on the end for better run game, red zone target for Darnold, the guy is the complete package big upgrade over what they have plus it screws the Pat's who without Gronk are not the same team. Just a thought I dont think Mac is smart enough or creative enough to pull that off.
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Post by 32Green on Mar 28, 2019 9:59:46 GMT -5
Jets should trade back grab TJ Hockenson for TE this will fix several things for 1 better blocking on the end for better run game, red zone target for Darnold, the guy is the complete package big upgrade over what they have plus it screws the Pat's who without Gronk are not the same team. Just a thought I dont think Mac is smart enough or creative enough to pull that off. Funny, he has been described as a better-blocking version of Gronk, too. Not good if he goes to the Pats, just wouldnt be fackin fair. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 28, 2019 10:10:12 GMT -5
Hock is a beast, and probably goes anywhere in the teens in the draft I bet. Someones grabbing him in the top 20 or so.
So the Pats have no shot at getting him anyway unless they trade up. Noah Fant is probably gone before the Pats pick as well.
If they trade down to that range, pick up extra picks to draft a center or other OL, I wouldnt complain about drafting Hockenson. Two TE sets with him and Herndon, and Crowder in the slot, and Bell out of the backfield, would be huge for Sammy.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 28, 2019 10:17:47 GMT -5
Although, say you trade down to #15, and Hockenson, Garrett Bradbury, and some combination of Jonah Williams / Andre Dillard / Cody Ford etc. are all sitting there, can you justify taking the TE over a top Center or Left Tackle, when OL is arguably a bigger need than TE, since we already have Herndon?
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Post by Ff2 on Mar 28, 2019 11:28:09 GMT -5
That'll show 'em.
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Post by Peebag on Mar 28, 2019 11:28:35 GMT -5
Trading back will not be an option this year.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 28, 2019 11:34:42 GMT -5
Although, say you trade down to #15, and Hockenson, Garrett Bradbury, and some combination of Jonah Williams / Andre Dillard / Cody Ford etc. are all sitting there, can you justify taking the TE over a top Center or Left Tackle, when OL is arguably a bigger need than TE, since we already have Herndon? If this guy is a Gronk yes I could while Herdon showed some stuff he isnt a good blocker already facing suspension. A TE of this calibur would help with the run game protect Darnold while adding another weapon to Darnolds arsenal yes As much as I want Bradbury getting this guy could give the Jets an elite weapon plus screw the Pat's at the same time. |
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Post by joepnyj1 on Mar 28, 2019 12:04:31 GMT -5
Although, say you trade down to #15, and Hockenson, Garrett Bradbury, and some combination of Jonah Williams / Andre Dillard / Cody Ford etc. are all sitting there, can you justify taking the TE over a top Center or Left Tackle, when OL is arguably a bigger need than TE, since we already have Herndon? At this point you have to go with Williams or Bradbury. Offensive line is needs a huge upgrade, need to protect Sam and give Lev Bell some holes to run through. Hypothetically speaking if that trade with the skins goes down, they should get their 1st, 2nd and 3rd along with a 1st next year. This is a deep draft for TEs not so much for lineman and if we can get the best of the crop we should. YOu can get a guy like Irv Smith with one of the 3rd round picks who I think will be a steal wherever he goes. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 28, 2019 12:36:22 GMT -5
I think we got our TE already.
Im not opposed to trading back if the price is right. And by that I mean acquiring a 2020 #1.
Allen or Bosa should be available. Im fine with either one.
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Post by quantum on Mar 28, 2019 12:41:29 GMT -5
there are so many permutations this year to maximize our draft haul that I'm just leaving it to Gase and Williams to donkeypunch Macc and make the correct choices
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 28, 2019 13:06:53 GMT -5
It comes down to a couple of questions:
Can they / should they trade back?
If so, which is a more important hole to address?
Id say C, LT, EDGE, and CB are more vital to address than TE right now.
Even Gronk himself wasn't a 1st rounder.
And in no way, shape, or form does taking this guy screw the Pats. No way does he last until they pick. There's plenty of teams in the teens and twenties that would take him first.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 28, 2019 14:59:44 GMT -5
I dont think Mac is smart enough or creative enough to pull that off. You got that damn right |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 15:15:39 GMT -5
It comes down to a couple of questions: Can they / should they trade back? If so, which is a more important hole to address? Id say C, LT, EDGE, and CB are more vital to address than TE right now. Even Gronk himself wasn't a 1st rounder. And in no way, shape, or form does taking this guy screw the Pats. No way does he last until they pick. There's plenty of teams in the teens and twenties that would take him first. It’s amazing how the majority of teams have the same needs as the Jets. Hopefully they trade back and get multiple needs in this draft. |
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 28, 2019 15:45:12 GMT -5
It comes down to a couple of questions: Can they / should they trade back? If so, which is a more important hole to address? Id say C, LT, EDGE, and CB are more vital to address than TE right now. Even Gronk himself wasn't a 1st rounder. And in no way, shape, or form does taking this guy screw the Pats. No way does he last until they pick. There's plenty of teams in the teens and twenties that would take him first. I reading Pat's want to move up I actually want the Jets to trade back and take Garret Bradbury best center in the draft and the only 1 that can start day 1. In fact they need to trade back they spent way to much money on Bell they got to get a center. Taking Bradbury at #3 would be to high. Only 3 centers in this draft that are NFL starters. I heard Gase doesn't like to use high draft picks on OLs so we probably not getting him. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 28, 2019 15:52:22 GMT -5
It comes down to a couple of questions: Can they / should they trade back? If so, which is a more important hole to address? Id say C, LT, EDGE, and CB are more vital to address than TE right now. Even Gronk himself wasn't a 1st rounder. And in no way, shape, or form does taking this guy screw the Pats. No way does he last until they pick. There's plenty of teams in the teens and twenties that would take him first. It’s amazing how the majority of teams have the same needs as the Jets. Hopefully they trade back and get multiple needs in this draft. They're also the premium positions (LT, CB, Edge) that often DONT hit free agency and that you HAVE to draft. It seems like most of the top 10 talent in this years draft is defensive front seven, and overrated QBs. Im fine with staying at 3 at taking Josh Allen, or Bosa if he falls to us. Dont really want Q Williams. My preference is trading back and picking a LT and C in the first two rounds, but you need a trading partner to make that happen. IF things fell right, you could be looking at another D'Brick/Mangold draft year, which would be huge in rebuilding the line. Calling it now, I dont think Hockenson gets past Green Bay at 12. He seems like a perfect fit for them and Aaron Rodgers. |
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