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Post by rangerous on Nov 6, 2015 19:59:24 GMT -5
the thing is the jets don't need to draft a qb. there are 31 other teams and they all have one or two qb's sitting on the bench. they can trde or wit for one of those guys to go into free agency. there's always a reason why a guy isn't starting but sometimes it's because the starter is so good or he needs a change in scenary or system. they can get a qb that's better than geno and probably better than fitz. all they need is cash.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 6, 2015 19:48:06 GMT -5
jets 28 jags (which is what they are) 10
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Post by rangerous on Nov 6, 2015 7:11:14 GMT -5
chrebet was welker and edelman long before those guys came on the scene. what a great player who just knew how to play the game. okay so trying to vault over two chicago bears while trying to break a longer gain wasn't so smartbut he was just so reliable as a receiver. great hands and tough.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 5, 2015 19:16:29 GMT -5
the bottom line is this is a statement game for the jets. they lose and they may as well kiss the season goodbye. and this from the person who thinks 12-4 is possible. i know that many teams try to load up with high priced free agents to improve the team. but it seems like most fail because the free agents are either not as good as advertised or they are un motivated. look at the redskins not too long ago. i also think the jet vets have more character than to just mail it in. they will play hard. also, the patsies sort of exposed the jet pass rush and oakland exploited it. i suspect bowles will have the defense sorted out.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 5, 2015 16:35:28 GMT -5
I never root against the Jets (except in the Kotite era), but even when they were 4-1 I knew that if they won enough to make the playoffs, they would be a one and done team. The NFL is a QB driven league. The Jets do not have one, and the O line is old, as well as the starting CB's, starting WRs, and 2 best LB's. So, in reality, the Jets would best be served by winning less and having higher draft picks. Sad, but true. depends on the year. when Andrew Luck was entering the draft "suck for Luck" meant you would be best served losing to get the top pick for Andrew Luck. They should've sucked a little more for Mariotta last year. 2016? fugehtaboutit. speaking about mariota, he came from a spread offense and is starting. now i'm not going to stand on a soapbox and demand that petty be starting for the injured fitz but why not? there are so many other factors that made mariota the top pick and petty a fourth rounder that have more to do with the teams they came from.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 5, 2015 7:08:10 GMT -5
that is just not right at all. this team was built to win this season otherwise there would be no reason to sign revis, skrine, cro, or gilchrist. more than just making the playoffs was/is the goal. maybe the division was out of reach but certainly not winning the first playoff round. the defense is stacked and obviously should have performed way better than what we saw in oakland. so yes, the jets need to start walking the walk. oh yeah i get they don't brag like they did under rex but that doesn't mean they shouldn't go out on any field expecting a loss. also no one can predict the injuries or their impact. the bottom line is this team is still capable of 12-4 and making the playoffs with room to spare. but they need to play each game for the full 60 minutes and learn to win games, not lose them. uh no...the free agent signings were to fill large gaping wounds that the previous administration left - and to put asses in the seats. Again, Ryan Fitzpatrick is our number 1 qb - the sound of that doesn't strike fear into a lot of NFL defenses but that's my point. every team wants an aaron rogers or even a drew brees or rivers or manning but there aren't that many. the thing with the jets is, they have this really great defense and make no mistake this defense can be great) so they don't need a world beater at qb. obviously a good offense will take pressure off of the defense and vice versa but on this team it leans only one way. the offense only has to be adequate.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 5, 2015 6:22:24 GMT -5
i'll admit, i've been one of the first ones to say that pryor's absence in the raider game and even part of the patsie game wasn't a major factor of why they lost. but maybe i'm going to rethink that. i remember back when the dolts went to the superbowl and won with peyton manning. they had a pretty good dline with freeney and mathis but the real spark plug on defense was bob sanders. that guy was all over the place making sure that plays didn't go too far if they broke through the dline and got into the linebackers. there is no doubt in my mind that he made the difference on that team. his biggest problem was that he wasn't on the field enough and missed long stretches due to injury.
i'm not saying pryor is another bob sanders but his absence certainly didn't help. this is a huge change in his status from last season when he was being killed for being another idzik bust.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 4, 2015 19:31:03 GMT -5
well it looks like the question has been answered. according to the ny post fitz is starting.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 4, 2015 19:26:01 GMT -5
don't get the hub-bub - the team has already won the same amount of games as last year and quite frankly with what's left in the schedule may grab a playoff spot. Anyone who was thinking this was a championship caliber team was delusional. C'mon - Ryan Fitzy is our number one qb. Think about it. that is just not right at all. this team was built to win this season otherwise there would be no reason to sign revis, skrine, cro, or gilchrist. more than just making the playoffs was/is the goal. maybe the division was out of reach but certainly not winning the first playoff round. the defense is stacked and obviously should have performed way better than what we saw in oakland. so yes, the jets need to start walking the walk. oh yeah i get they don't brag like they did under rex but that doesn't mean they shouldn't go out on any field expecting a loss. also no one can predict the injuries or their impact. the bottom line is this team is still capable of 12-4 and making the playoffs with room to spare. but they need to play each game for the full 60 minutes and learn to win games, not lose them.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 3, 2015 19:58:49 GMT -5
Year or two away? Do you know what our OL is gonna look like in two years? We are gonna need the two most important spots. Revis and Cro are win now players. How many more years does Harris have? Marshall and Decker are veterans. A year is an eternity in the NFL. You cant plan two years in advance. well, if the jets look at brick and mangold rationally then maybe they trade or cut outright. remember they landed revis, cro, skrine, gilchrist this season and basically righted a defense that was really poor. there's no reason why they can't find a replacement for those guys through the draft or free agency or maybe they already have the guy. it is better to trade a guy while still nearly at the top than to wait until he's clearly on the decline and valueless. every team wants a guy with 2 or more seasons left at high level.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 3, 2015 19:53:41 GMT -5
A year or two away? Somebody better tell Revis/dbrick/Mangold because those centerpieces of the team sure as shit ainy on the rise phases of their careers. Their window is a closing. Too bad for them. Revis got his, and Mangold can pray he sticks long enough. What rookie coach last took their team to a SB? Fuckin' beats me. Not only is this Bowles' first year with the Jets, it's also his first go around as a HC for a full season. Shit's gotta work itself out. true enough about things taking time and having to work out. with regard to what rookie hc took a team to a superbowl? i haven't looked, it's probably none but bellichiken took 2 seasons with the patsies. both harbaughs were pretty successful early on. mccaferty took the colts after he took over from shula, and shula took the colts and the doltfins soon after yaking over the teams. the thing common to all of those teams is they all either had a qb when they got the team or lucked into one early on. imo the jets have the talent right here and now to be a very good team. the qb situation isn't that good and got worse now that they apparently have to rely on geno. it's all about their desire to play hard every game.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 3, 2015 19:41:32 GMT -5
I don't want to see the coach all fired up and emotional, but I do want the team to show some spirit and fire. They looked flat in pre-season and it hasn't really picked up in seaon. They almost look like they are playing very mechanically. Especially in New England, it was almost weird. Mo Wilkerson just said on the radio, explaining the horrible play against Oakland that they came out "flat" and also for another game, I think it was Redskins. Coming out flat is inexcusable to me. How does that happen in the NFL with professionals "playing" this sport. Somebody needs to get all up in their faces. totally agree. week in and week out we see the bellichicken with arguably worse personnel just seem to play hard the whole game. when they get up they play even harder. when they are down they play harder. i don't have a clue how the bellichicken keeps his team so motivated but that's what the jets needs to do. the thing is their personnel, even qb, hasn't been as bad as some would suggest (although geno is very troubling) and is better than the patsies yet the patsies are 7-0 and the jets sucking wind at 4-3. it's almost like the team gets so friggin smug that they think they can just show up and the other team will just forfeit. the pass rushing was atrocious. again pryor being out didn't help but, c'mon, that dline should've been able to bowl over the raiders oline. and there's no excuse for the poor tackling. they missed 19 tackles. since there are roughly 50 offensive plays per game for each team that's an awful lot of failure. no excuse. i am hopeful that bowles won't take this garbage and will do what's needed to nip it in the bud. these guys need to earn their money.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 3, 2015 19:24:48 GMT -5
i guess that's why the defense really stepped it up when he came in for the injured geno.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 2, 2015 20:26:29 GMT -5
Now I'm going to say so my thing listen up. Don't want to hear about drafting DT, OLB, Safety, or any defensive player next year. THE JETS NEED A QB. I DON'T CARE IF THE Y HAVE TO TRADE THE ENTIRE DRAFT FOR THE NEXT 2 YEARS TO GET ONE THEY NEED A QB. THAT SHOULD BE THE #1 PRIORITY NEXT OFF SEASONS AND THAT QB NEEDS TO BE A LONG TERM SOLUTION NOT 1 YEAR LIKE FARVE. we passed on Flacco, Carr, all for defense it needs to stop defense doesn't win championships anymore having a a offense that can strike down field does. With the rules that favor WRS over DB in pass coverage having a stud QB wins championships. okay, that's almost fair. ditka tried something like that for ricky williams. that didn't turn out all bad although i will say that ricky williams was far more certain to be a good nfl player fair and above just about any qb. an argument can be made to go straight to petty if they think he's the guy next season or the season after. geno just showed both of his sides, although you really can't knock him too much. he didn't hang the 33 points on the team.
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Post by rangerous on Nov 2, 2015 17:53:13 GMT -5
Jim Kelly Dan Marino Tom Brady. The Jets. Fucking clowns. Twaty little stubborn bitches. Clueless fucks. Self Destructive pieces of shit. Jokes year after year after year. Nothing sucks this long this much in exactly the same way by pure chance. The top of the top must be removed. Owner gone. How many fucking motherfucking years does it take to say hey lets for once try to get a qb. You passed on Marino. Vinny Testaverde Chad fucking pennington to answer Brady manning Rapistburger you give Mexicano Sanchez. Geno Smith. Fuck You. Fuck you. An aging brett favre your best QB since Namath. Lollllololololololol. Defense Defense. There's so much to say but i hate these fucks to much to type. Personality. ...Loser ...Born Fucking Losers i get you but on the other hand how can you predict that someone like chad would be such a china doll? missing on chad brings in the favre season, the sanchez pick, the clemens pick, the geno pick, and so on. the only solution is to find a can't miss guy and go get him. i don't know what mariota is doing but they had a chance. maybe there's a guy sitting on the bench somewhere. but if you're going to do a suck for luck stunt then there's no reason to waste money on revis or just about any other player because all that'll happen is their careers will be wasted.
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