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Post by Fishooked on Sept 28, 2015 7:03:39 GMT -5
Had to be at the game to see it live. No one is scared of this guys arm. He's worse then Pennington and is a half ass game manager. Defense dared him to beat them he couldn't it was Pennington part deux. I had a lifetime of that bullshit. I want petty sitting for 2 years. Geno should get some reps after that horror show. And i mean horror. No one is scared of that arm nobody. Missing ivory is huge and decker but im still happy at 2 1. Do not want to see anymore of that CPF. Hopefully we regroup but Geno should be back in the discussion this week. I mean watching that live i swear to God i almost cursed out poor chad Pennington before i realized its 2015 More like a ghey manager. Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either. Hopefully everyone is back and we'll see what we can do against a terrible Fins team, they look like the worst team in the division at the moment. |
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Post by greenwave on Sept 28, 2015 7:15:02 GMT -5
I'm glad there's at least some sanity in here. I was never under the illusion that Geno was the lost ark, but I WAS terrified that today would come. The day Fitz's mediocrity and inferior arm became this teams undoing... And it pains me even more to say - Fitz should start this week. It's a London game, short week and it makes to sense to march Fitz out there... For the first half. Shouldn't pain you - it's the right approach all things considered. But I completely agree that Fitz has been exposed to the point where he must sit down soon. They can just throw Fitz out there for another half and confirm that the switch must be made after the bye. Geno takes over at 2-2 or 3-1 if the Jets can pull it out, but what I don't want is another "solid game manager" performance from Fitz that keeps this charade going beyond the bye week. Make the switch in the next couple of weeks - I'd rather lose with Geno than go 9-7 with Fitzpatrick and a bunch of questions going into the offseason at the most important position. |
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Post by yankeejet22 on Sept 28, 2015 7:49:29 GMT -5
what I've been saying all along. I never thought Geno was a great QB, I just KNEW he's the best we've got on this roster.
btw, IK doesn't appear to be the team MVP now, does he? Focking goon.
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Post by greenwave on Sept 28, 2015 8:14:31 GMT -5
what I've been saying all along. I never thought Geno was a great QB, I just KNEW he's the best we've got on this roster. btw, IK doesn't appear to be the team MVP now, does he? Focking goon. Drove me nuts that so many people were regurgitating this...as if there was a reason to be happy that the team had no choice but to put Fitzpatrick out there. I'm just glad the guy had a trademark Fitzpatrick game this early in the season and against a non-conference opponent...we will hopefully only have to deal with this for one more game. Geno playing at least 12 games this season is a best long term approach for the Jets any way you slice it, once you recognize that Fitzpatrick is Fitzpatrick. |
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 28, 2015 8:25:30 GMT -5
Agreed. We r going no where fast with Fitzpatrick. W e never were. First 2 games fooled us because we won , but a 12yr journeyman was never fonna b the answer. Rather c what geno can do with a real O. That game yesterday was one of the most frustrating g jets losses in a while. Painful
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Post by DartTheWolf on Sept 28, 2015 8:39:17 GMT -5
Had to be at the game to see it live. No one is scared of this guys arm. He's worse then Pennington and is a half ass game manager. Defense dared him to beat them he couldn't it was Pennington part deux. I had a lifetime of that bullshit. I want petty sitting for 2 years. Geno should get some reps after that horror show. And i mean horror. No one is scared of that arm nobody. Missing ivory is huge and decker but im still happy at 2 1. Do not want to see anymore of that CPF. Hopefully we regroup but Geno should be back in the discussion this week. I mean watching that live i swear to God i almost cursed out poor chad Pennington before i realized its 2015 wait a second. not that fitz is that great but do you actually think genot would have had a chance in that game. yeah fitz threw two really stupid ints. stupid because he threw a bad pass to a covered receiver. but he didn't throw a pick six that genot is so prone to do. and how on earth can a qb succeed if the receivers are just not making the plays? enunwa and smith both didn't make plays. marshall mised a couple too. i didn't think the play calling was that great. the passes to the flat were useless and just got the back clobbered. the runs were uninspried. the bottom line is the jets got exposed on offense for not having any really good team speed on offense. outside of marshall, decker, and ivory the rest of the skill guys are very ordinary. this is not to take anything away from smith or owusu or enunwa because they're all young players who need to learn. nobody's afraid of genot's arm either. Worth noting that Fitz hit the DL in the hands 3 or 4 times. 3 of the times was by an Eagles rookie. Pick-6's take two people, not just the QB. A different player, a la J.J. Watt and one of those 4 passes could have been a pick-6. I don't think its fair to make that statement. But if we want to play the comparison game like that, there were a few times where the pocket breaks in ways we've seen before, that we've seen Geno scramble before and pull out legit gains. Gains I expected to see and then Fitz hobbles or decides to throw it away. Happened vs Colts too. |
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Post by jdeacon on Sept 28, 2015 8:45:07 GMT -5
If fitz goes for 250 next week with 2td and 1 int this fan base will be preaching game managers win games and swearing geno would have lost the game if he was in it. Manic Depressive is the only word that can describe this fanbase.
When you have lost your number 2 and 3 wide receiver's along with your starting running back its pretty easy for a defense to take away your last weapon. Even with Marshall being doubled and sometimes triple covered the ENTIRE fucking game he still posted 100 yards and a td.
Kerley is a jag, cumberland ( LOL ) Enunwa remidns me of a typical jets scrub wr, Smith shows promise but is clearly a rookie playing in his first game. Give Fitz his starting weapons and we will win games. Take away the talent around him and he becomes his typical below 500 qb.
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Post by porgyman on Sept 28, 2015 9:00:51 GMT -5
You speak the truth. I was at the Indy game, about 5 levels up in one of the end zones. When the play was coming in my direction, it became obvious. Fits has the arm of a high school QB.
The Colts easily could have had 6 INT's. It didn't happen because they were playing guys that they literally had signed off the street that week. Pass after pass was floated into double or triple coverage.
The terms usually associated with Fitz are 'smart" and great leader. Where exactly is this great smarts? I see a guy throwing into double coverage, constantly. Is that smarts?
The team will have to travel early to London this week. So you can't make a change now. However, as soon as they arrive home, it's time to get Geno ready.
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Post by carlito1171 on Sept 28, 2015 9:04:04 GMT -5
Fitz's arm scares no one.
Double BMarsh, sit on the rest of the routes, stack the box to stop the run first and foremost. The colts to an extent and now the Eagles have revealed that blueprint. Fitz is who he is....a decent backup that can come in and give you some spot starts, but not a QB you can hand over a team to.....
Give Fitz one final start in London, then get Geno ready during the bye.....at least Geno can put the ball in the air and can use his legs. That's what we need to loosen up the D. Fitz was never this game manager people made him out to be....he can turn the ball over at a high rate as well. Better to go with the guy with more upside...
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 28, 2015 9:27:28 GMT -5
If fitz goes for 250 next week with 2td and 1 int this fan base will be preaching game managers win games and swearing geno would have lost the game if he was in it. Manic Depressive is the only word that can describe this fanbase. When you have lost your number 2 and 3 wide receiver's along with your starting running back its pretty easy for a defense to take away your last weapon. Even with Marshall being doubled and sometimes triple covered the ENTIRE fucking game he still posted 100 yards and a td. Kerley is a jag, cumberland ( LOL ) Enunwa remidns me of a typical jets scrub wr, Smith shows promise but is clearly a rookie playing in his first game. Give Fitz his starting weapons and we will win games. Take away the talent around him and he becomes his typical below 500 qb. Even Devin Smith said that it's tough to have to come back for balls (i.e. Fitz doesn't have the arm stregth to throw deep). Why did we draft Smith then? Fitz has to go. |
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Post by gibby on Sept 28, 2015 9:37:34 GMT -5
Love being a Jet fan! So what happens when we go back to Geno and he continues to be a one read QB who turns the ball over constantly. All of you will say " see- told ya - should have stuck with Fitzpatrick" . You guys are fucking crazy! I'll take one bad game over Geno any day. Don't get me wrong. He isn't the long term solution. He is are best option and it's not even close. #fuckgeno!!
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Post by carlito1171 on Sept 28, 2015 10:03:47 GMT -5
Why did we draft Smith then? Because the guy taking all of the first team reps pre-jaw shattering can throw the ball to him... |
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Post by greenwave on Sept 28, 2015 10:04:09 GMT -5
If fitz goes for 250 next week with 2td and 1 int this fan base will be preaching game managers win games and swearing geno would have lost the game if he was in it. Manic Depressive is the only word that can describe this fanbase. When you have lost your number 2 and 3 wide receiver's along with your starting running back its pretty easy for a defense to take away your last weapon. Even with Marshall being doubled and sometimes triple covered the ENTIRE fucking game he still posted 100 yards and a td. Kerley is a jag, cumberland ( LOL ) Enunwa remidns me of a typical jets scrub wr, Smith shows promise but is clearly a rookie playing in his first game. Give Fitz his starting weapons and we will win games. Take away the talent around him and he becomes his typical below 500 qb. OK, but why is that true for Fitz, and not for Geno? Why does a 10+ year vet need his starting weapons, but Geno can't win even if he has those same weapons? Were you making these excuses for Geno when he strolled into the third game of his second season (Bears) with Kerley, Nelson and Salas as his top-three receivers? Something tells me you weren't. But somehow, there's an excuse for Fitz to be a sub-.500 QB with talent that was BETTER than what Geno has had throughout his entire career. The assumptions made about Geno as if he would not be better with Brandon Marshall, an improved OC, and an additional offseason of work are laughable. Yet the same people ripping Geno think Fitz will "be better" if everyone is healthy. |
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Post by Vondarkmoor on Sept 28, 2015 10:04:59 GMT -5
Had to be at the game to see it live. No one is scared of this guys arm. He's worse then Pennington and is a half ass game manager. Defense dared him to beat them he couldn't it was Pennington part deux. I had a lifetime of that bullshit. I want petty sitting for 2 years. Geno should get some reps after that horror show. And i mean horror. No one is scared of that arm nobody. Missing ivory is huge and decker but im still happy at 2 1. Do not want to see anymore of that CPF. Hopefully we regroup but Geno should be back in the discussion this week. I mean watching that live i swear to God i almost cursed out poor chad Pennington before i realized its 2015 At least in Indy Chan had him throwing down field a bit. This game was dink and dunk gameplanning at its worst, I blame our coordinator more than Fitz, who certainly wasn't great either. |
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Post by Vondarkmoor on Sept 28, 2015 10:08:32 GMT -5
This thread proves the old adage that Backup QB is the most popular player after a loss. Even when its the worst QB in the NFL* - be careful what you wish for gents. *per ESPN coaches and scouts poll |
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