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Post by JonEJet on Sept 28, 2015 10:13:51 GMT -5
Can't believe people are calling for Geno....IT'S GEEEE-NOOOOOOOO people....he sucks
Lets see Fitz stink it up with Decker and Ivory playing first before we jump off the ledge. We'll be fine
No QB should be throwing it 50 something times
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2015 10:17:10 GMT -5
Does it really matter who you lose with?
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Sept 28, 2015 10:26:21 GMT -5
That game was everything that I feared about Fitzpatrick. The Eagles D took away the screen and short routes and dared Fitz to beat them down field knowing he could not. Every pass that traveled more than 20 yards in the air floated like a zeppelin. Every deep pass was underthrown and almost every intermediate route was thrown behind the receiver.
There is a reason Fitz played football at Harvard and not at Florida State... He has very little in the way of physical tools. You wouldn't play a slow short CB just because he's smart, and you can't play a weak armed QB just because he's smart.
Play Geno Dammit. He's either improved or he has not, and we're not gonna find out with him carrying an Ipad.
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Post by Harrier on Sept 28, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -5
If fitz goes for 250 next week with 2td and 1 int this fan base will be preaching game managers win games and swearing geno would have lost the game if he was in it. Manic Depressive is the only word that can describe this fanbase. When you have lost your number 2 and 3 wide receiver's along with your starting running back its pretty easy for a defense to take away your last weapon. Even with Marshall being doubled and sometimes triple covered the ENTIRE fucking game he still posted 100 yards and a td. Kerley is a jag, cumberland ( LOL ) Enunwa remidns me of a typical jets scrub wr, Smith shows promise but is clearly a rookie playing in his first game. Give Fitz his starting weapons and we will win games. Take away the talent around him and he becomes his typical below 500 qb. OK, but why is that true for Fitz, and not for Geno? Why does a 10+ year vet need his starting weapons, but Geno can't win even if he has those same weapons? Were you making these excuses for Geno when he strolled into the third game of his second season (Bears) with Kerley, Nelson and Salas as his top-three receivers? Something tells me you weren't. But somehow, there's an excuse for Fitz to be a sub-.500 QB with talent that was BETTER than what Geno has had throughout his entire career. The assumptions made about Geno as if he would not be better with Brandon Marshall, an improved OC, and an additional offseason of work are laughable. Yet the same people ripping Geno think Fitz will "be better" if everyone is healthy. So true. Can you imagine the meltdown of this fanbase if Geno had thrown 3 picks? Yet somehow there's a built in excuse for Fitz that he never had Decker and Ivory. Sometimes you have to put aside your personal agenda of not liking a guy and just call a spade a spade, he's a better athlete and you have to account for his arm and feet. Let's see what we have in Geno with these weapons once and for all.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Sept 28, 2015 10:33:01 GMT -5
Geno was the starter until injured. Fitz has done nothing to wow anyone with his play. So, you go to the guy who was your starting QB before injured once he is ready. I predict Geno will be under center no later than game 5.
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Post by Yankees45 on Sept 28, 2015 10:34:48 GMT -5
Why wait to fuckin lose to make a change put geno in now , more riding on geno for this team than fitz. Geno is young , more upside , with weapons in a spread system .you also can close the chapter on geno if it doesn't work out and move on to finding a QB and not having questions about him. Put the guy in coach !!!
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Post by Paradis on Sept 28, 2015 10:41:44 GMT -5
You speak the truth. I was at the Indy game, about 5 levels up in one of the end zones. When the play was coming in my direction, it became obvious. Fits has the arm of a high school QB. The Colts easily could have had 6 INT's. It didn't happen because they were playing guys that they literally had signed off the street that week. Pass after pass was floated into double or triple coverage. The terms usually associated with Fitz are 'smart" and great leader. Where exactly is this great smarts? I see a guy throwing into double coverage, constantly. Is that smarts? The team will have to travel early to London this week. So you can't make a change now. However, as soon as they arrive home, it's time to get Geno ready. Preach on brother, this point continues to fall on deaf ears.... the longer the season goes on, the more we will see what unfolded vs PHI.... Fitz can manage a game and fill in for a pinch, but the longer he's exposed, the more prone we are to implosion on offense.
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Post by Paradis on Sept 28, 2015 10:44:17 GMT -5
If fitz goes for 250 next week with 2td and 1 int this fan base will be preaching game managers win games and swearing geno would have lost the game if he was in it. Manic Depressive is the only word that can describe this fanbase. When you have lost your number 2 and 3 wide receiver's along with your starting running back its pretty easy for a defense to take away your last weapon. Even with Marshall being doubled and sometimes triple covered the ENTIRE fucking game he still posted 100 yards and a td. Kerley is a jag, cumberland ( LOL ) Enunwa remidns me of a typical jets scrub wr, Smith shows promise but is clearly a rookie playing in his first game. Give Fitz his starting weapons and we will win games. Take away the talent around him and he becomes his typical below 500 qb. OK , but why is that true for Fitz, and not for Geno? Why does a 10+ year vet need his starting weapons, but Geno can't win even if he has those same weapons? Were you making these excuses for Geno when he strolled into the third game of his second season (Bears) with Kerley, Nelson and Salas as his top-three receivers? Something tells me you weren't. But somehow, there's an excuse for Fitz to be a sub-.500 QB with talent that was BETTER than what Geno has had throughout his entire career. The assumptions made about Geno as if he would not be better with Brandon Marshall, an improved OC, and an additional offseason of work are laughable. Yet the same people ripping Geno think Fitz will "be better" if everyone is healthy. man, i'm thoroughly impressed at how astute the Hampur posters are today! So much truth here. I know people want to believe that Fitz can be Brad Johnson, or Trent Dilfer - but you're confusing an Alex Smith type game manager, with a career McCown caliber back up in Fitzpatrick who flashed for 1 season, like 6 years ago.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Sept 28, 2015 10:46:33 GMT -5
Geno was the starter until injured. Fitz has done nothing to wow anyone with his play. So, you go to the guy who was your starting QB before injured once he is ready. I predict Geno will be under center no later than game 5. agreed. It won't be long before the Coaches see the obvious.
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Post by Paradis on Sept 28, 2015 10:53:55 GMT -5
I'm glad there's at least some sanity in here. I was never under the illusion that Geno was the lost ark, but I WAS terrified that today would come. The day Fitz's mediocrity and inferior arm became this teams undoing... And it pains me even more to say - Fitz should start this week. It's a London game, short week and it makes to sense to march Fitz out there... For the first half. Shouldn't pain you - it's the right approach all things considered. But I completely agree that Fitz has been exposed to the point where he must sit down soon. They can just throw Fitz out there for another half and confirm that the switch must be made after the bye. Geno takes over at 2-2 or 3-1 if the Jets can pull it out, but what I don't want is another "solid game manager" performance from Fitz that keeps this charade going beyond the bye week. Make the switch in the next couple of weeks - I'd rather lose with Geno than go 9-7 with Fitzpatrick and a bunch of questions going into the offseason at the most important position. 100% MIA's defense has the personnel to execute the gameplan that PHI just put out there. I have a hard time not seeing a repeat of yesterday. Above all, I would think the Front Office would want to go into 2016 with a unequivocal understanding of what they have with Geno. Are we looking for a franchise signal caller? Can Geno function at an above average level with talent in the right system? You have to throw out the game tape from the last 2 years, and assess - "What do we have, right now"... cause i think there's glimmer of optimism there.
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Post by greenwave on Sept 28, 2015 11:15:36 GMT -5
Love being a Jet fan! So what happens when we go back to Geno and he continues to be a one read QB who turns the ball over constantly. All of you will say " see- told ya - should have stuck with Fitzpatrick" . You guys are fucking crazy! I'll take one bad game over Geno any day. Don't get me wrong. He isn't the long term solution. He is are best option and it's not even close. #fuckgeno!! Even if this was true (I believe it's not), it still would have no relevance for the Jets future to play Fitzpatrick this year without giving Geno a shot to run this offense in the regular season. Geno began the year as the starter, and his play on the practice field cemented his role there. If you take out Punchgate, which is the only reason why Geno finds himself on the bench, no other team would keep a backup as limited as Fitzpatrick in the starting role beyond just one more poor performance.
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Post by cgjet on Sept 28, 2015 11:26:33 GMT -5
Had to be at the game to see it live. No one is scared of this guys arm. He's worse then Pennington and is a half ass game manager. Defense dared him to beat them he couldn't it was Pennington part deux. I had a lifetime of that bullshit. I want petty sitting for 2 years. Geno should get some reps after that horror show. And i mean horror. No one is scared of that arm nobody. Missing ivory is huge and decker but im still happy at 2 1. Do not want to see anymore of that CPF. Hopefully we regroup but Geno should be back in the discussion this week. I mean watching that live i swear to God i almost cursed out poor chad Pennington before i realized its 2015 More like a ghey manager. Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either. Hopefully everyone is back and we'll see what we can do against a terrible Fins team, they look like the worst team in the division at the moment. Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either.
Spot on, I was wondering about the play calling throughout the game.
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Post by greenwave on Sept 28, 2015 11:39:15 GMT -5
More like a ghey manager. Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either. Hopefully everyone is back and we'll see what we can do against a terrible Fins team, they look like the worst team in the division at the moment. Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either.
Spot on, I was wondering about the play calling throughout the game.
You would have been wondering far less had Fitzpatrick connected on any of the multiple 1-on-1 opportunities on the outside yesterday. There were at least two long TDs left on the field yesterday from bad throws - Chan doesn't catch heat from me (yet). Hard to OC well when the defense is coming downhill and you don't have a QB to take advantage of single coverage.
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Post by Paradis on Sept 28, 2015 11:44:36 GMT -5
More like a ghey manager. Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either. Hopefully everyone is back and we'll see what we can do against a terrible Fins team, they look like the worst team in the division at the moment. Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either.
Spot on, I was wondering about the play calling throughout the game.
I'm almost positive Chan didn't call all those shitty plays. Fitz was looking for marshall repeatedly, and when in doubt - tossing ducks down the field. I saw multiple digs, outs and slants that Fitz just didn't have the confidence/strength to throw on.
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Post by cgjet on Sept 28, 2015 11:48:42 GMT -5
Fitznoodle was awful today, Chan Gailey isn't helping matters either.
Spot on, I was wondering about the play calling throughout the game.
You would have been wondering far less had Fitzpatrick connected on any of the multiple 1-on-1 opportunities on the outside yesterday. There were at least two long TDs left on the field yesterday from bad throws - Chan doesn't catch heat from me (yet). Hard to OC well when the defense is coming downhill and you don't have a QB to take advantage of single coverage. I really wasn't being critical about the downfield throws, I liked the calls to stretch the field, other than most were not caught. There were too many lateral passes, for my liking. Throw the ball down the field, not laterally.
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