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Post by Big L on Jan 10, 2016 10:51:30 GMT -5
Two things lost amid the chaos of the ending of last night's game: The great job AJ McCarron did in the 4th quarter to lead his team back on put them in a position to win. Also, I don't understand how there is not more discussion of Martavis Bryant's TD catch. I am so confused trying to figure out what is and what isn't a catch these days. Looked to me like he didn't fully possess the ball, pulling it in after he pinned it to his leg, until after his feet left the ground and he landed out of bounds. Maybe it was too close to overrule since it was ruled a TD on the field, but watching it live and watching the tape, I still don't see it as a catch. Was wondering the same thing - looks like he finally had possession when he was completely out of bounds. I guess against the leg counts as possession?
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 10, 2016 11:22:57 GMT -5
Talented players like Burfict go undrafted for a reason. Crazy how he basically won the game single handedly only to then pretty much lose it in the end. That was absolutely a penalty on the Brown hit. The real problem I have was with the extra pacman penalty. He barely even touched porter and why the fuck is porter on the field anyway? and as per usual a terrible job by cbs, only showing that dust up one time. The refs are killing this league and some of the blame also falls on cbs and fox announcers who never have the balls to really question a call during live game action. It's just disgraceful... Another example, every single holding call should be replayed to the audience. It is about half the time it seems. Every single non hold that any jerk at home watching on tv can clearly see should be replayed... It NEVER is. Officiating will never be perfect, it can't be, but they should at least try. It's clearly quite deliberate on the part of cbs and the others to support the party line. It was laughable the way the post game guys fell over themselves to declare it was the worst, most disgraceful, DISGRACEFUL!!!! display they had ever seen.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 10, 2016 11:27:01 GMT -5
Two things lost amid the chaos of the ending of last night's game: The great job AJ McCarron did in the 4th quarter to lead his team back on put them in a position to win. Also, I don't understand how there is not more discussion of Martavis Bryant's TD catch. I am so confused trying to figure out what is and what isn't a catch these days. Looked to me like he didn't fully possess the ball, pulling it in after he pinned it to his leg, until after his feet left the ground and he landed out of bounds. Maybe it was too close to overrule since it was ruled a TD on the field, but watching it live and watching the tape, I still don't see it as a catch. That was no catch. Any other team would have had it overruled. Love how the TV guys just look the other way pretending it never happened
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Post by Big L on Jan 10, 2016 11:50:59 GMT -5
TV guys were clearly wanting the Steelers to win.
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Post by ruby2 on Jan 10, 2016 11:57:09 GMT -5
Talented players like Burfict go undrafted for a reason. Crazy how he basically won the game single handedly only to then pretty much lose it in the end. That was absolutely a penalty on the Brown hit. The real problem I have was with the extra pacman penalty. He barely even touched porter and why the fuck is porter on the field anyway? and as per usual a terrible job by cbs, only showing that dust up one time. The refs are killing this league and some of the blame also falls on cbs and fox announcers who never have the balls to really question a call during live game action. It's just disgraceful... Another example, every single holding call should be replayed to the audience. It is about half the time it seems. Every single non hold that any jerk at home watching on tv can clearly see should be replayed... It NEVER is. Officiating will never be perfect, it can't be, but they should at least try. If Burfict was a Jet he would be one of the more popular ones. Hes the type of player you love when they are on your team but hate when they arent. I dont know the last LB we had that could have even made that type of play that he did on his INT. I have come to grips with the fact that by today's standards the Burfict hit is a penalty but they do allow the officials to make judgement calls and if they are going to let the Shazier hit go then they have to let the Burfict hit go. Its the uneven officiating that is ruining this league. And even casual fans are beginning to realize that the rules are a little different for the Pats, Steelers and Giants. Its not a coincidence. They all get away with murder. Yeah absolutely not. Shazier was making a hit on a ball carrier while the play was ongoing. Burficts hit came after the play was completely over. They aren't comparable.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 10, 2016 12:04:33 GMT -5
I hate when the calls always go to one team.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 10, 2016 12:07:05 GMT -5
Two things lost amid the chaos of the ending of last night's game: The great job AJ McCarron did in the 4th quarter to lead his team back on put them in a position to win. Also, I don't understand how there is not more discussion of Martavis Bryant's TD catch. I am so confused trying to figure out what is and what isn't a catch these days. Looked to me like he didn't fully possess the ball, pulling it in after he pinned it to his leg, until after his feet left the ground and he landed out of bounds. Maybe it was too close to overrule since it was ruled a TD on the field, but watching it live and watching the tape, I still don't see it as a catch. Absolutely. That is a catch but things like Beckham vs Pats isn't. The NFL officiating and rules are a complete mess right now. It speaks volumes of how crazy that game was that the Bryant TD call and the Hill fumble are basically forgotten plays when talking about the outcome.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 10, 2016 12:15:55 GMT -5
If Burfict was a Jet he would be one of the more popular ones. Hes the type of player you love when they are on your team but hate when they arent. I dont know the last LB we had that could have even made that type of play that he did on his INT. I have come to grips with the fact that by today's standards the Burfict hit is a penalty but they do allow the officials to make judgement calls and if they are going to let the Shazier hit go then they have to let the Burfict hit go. Its the uneven officiating that is ruining this league. And even casual fans are beginning to realize that the rules are a little different for the Pats, Steelers and Giants. Its not a coincidence. They all get away with murder. Yeah absolutely not. Shazier was making a hit on a ball carrier while the play was ongoing. Burficts hit came after the play was completely over. They aren't comparable. I wouldn't go as far as saying they aren't comparable. Completely similar, no. Burficts hit in real time is not nearly as late as you are saying. He makes contact with him exactly as Brown's feet touch the ground. In real time, that's less than a second. Brown is in a more precarious position on his hit, but Shazier's is just as dirty and illegal. He spears Bernard right in the jaw, and he knows exactly where Bernard's head his, not sure you can say the same for Burfict. They are both penalties, one got called, one resulted in a turnover.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 10, 2016 12:19:20 GMT -5
TV guys were clearly wanting the Steelers to win. 80 seconds to go - "this game's not over yet!!!!!" squeals Nantz
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 10, 2016 12:29:28 GMT -5
If Burfict was a Jet he would be one of the more popular ones. Hes the type of player you love when they are on your team but hate when they arent. I dont know the last LB we had that could have even made that type of play that he did on his INT. I have come to grips with the fact that by today's standards the Burfict hit is a penalty but they do allow the officials to make judgement calls and if they are going to let the Shazier hit go then they have to let the Burfict hit go. Its the uneven officiating that is ruining this league. And even casual fans are beginning to realize that the rules are a little different for the Pats, Steelers and Giants. Its not a coincidence. They all get away with murder. Yeah absolutely not. Shazier was making a hit on a ball carrier while the play was ongoing. Burficts hit came after the play was completely over. They aren't comparable. Not trying to be a dick but have you actually seen the plays? The ballcarrier argument does not come into play bc he hit him with the crown of the helmet which is always a penalty unless they are within 3 yards of the LOS and inside the tackle box. Shazier's hit was a penalty. Wasnt called. The play on the Burfict hit wasnt completely over. He took one step and hit him with his shoulder. It was bang-bang. This isnt Madden. Cant change directions or stop momentum in a millisecond.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 10, 2016 12:34:07 GMT -5
TV guys were clearly wanting the Steelers to win. 80 seconds to go - "this game's not over yet!!!!!" squeals Nantz I was honestly worried for his health. At his age he could take a stroke.
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Post by JonEJet on Jan 10, 2016 13:11:04 GMT -5
Miserable conditions to play in today
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Post by JonEJet on Jan 10, 2016 13:16:09 GMT -5
Michael Bennett is a freaking one man wrecking crew
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Post by Big L on Jan 10, 2016 13:23:36 GMT -5
TV guys were clearly wanting the Steelers to win. 80 seconds to go - "this game's not over yet!!!!!" squeals Nantz "and Ben Rothlisberger comes back in the game to lead his team to victory!" dumbass.
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Post by ruby2 on Jan 10, 2016 13:53:32 GMT -5
Yeah absolutely not. Shazier was making a hit on a ball carrier while the play was ongoing. Burficts hit came after the play was completely over. They aren't comparable. Not trying to be a dick but have you actually seen the plays? The ballcarrier argument does not come into play bc he hit him with the crown of the helmet which is always a penalty unless they are within 3 yards of the LOS and inside the tackle box. Shazier's hit was a penalty. Wasnt called. The play on the Burfict hit wasnt completely over. He took one step and hit him with his shoulder. It was bang-bang. This isnt Madden. Cant change directions or stop momentum in a millisecond. Shazier was putting a hit on a player who has the ball, Burfict was putting a hit on a guy without the ball. Thats why one was a penalty and one wasnt. Also not to mention Shazier was trying to put helmet on ball, Burfict was going to the head deliberately.
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