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Post by Jets Things on Jan 26, 2017 15:40:39 GMT -5
And fuck NATO too. Do you realize that by treaty all the NATO countries have to provide 2% of their GDP to help pay for their defense? Germany alone underfunded their contributions by almost 70 billion dollars last year, that's just one country. Our vets and active duty personnel have to wait months to see a Dr but if you're on Medicaid you get seen right away. Americas priorities are so fucked up right now. You know why Europe can pay for all their social programs?Partly because the USA picks up the tab for them. Freedom isn't free. If they don't want to pay their fair share then fuck them, let them deal with the consequences. So, the vet should be seen right away by the doc, while the poor baby waits. Got it. Shouldn't both be seen right away? Shouldn't both have access to the best medical care? Just for shits and giggles, enlighten us with your pecking order for medical care. 1) My family 2) Me 3) Everyone else
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 26, 2017 15:40:29 GMT -5
And fuck NATO too. Do you realize that by treaty all the NATO countries have to provide 2% of their GDP to help pay for their defense? Germany alone underfunded their contributions by almost 70 billion dollars last year, that's just one country. Our vets and active duty personnel have to wait months to see a Dr but if you're on Medicaid you get seen right away. Americas priorities are so fucked up right now. You know why Europe can pay for all their social programs?Partly because the USA picks up the tab for them. Freedom isn't free. If they don't want to pay their fair share then fuck them, let them deal with the consequences. So, the vet should be seen right away by the doc, while the poor baby waits. Got it. Shouldn't both be seen right away? Shouldn't both have access to the best medical care? Just for shits and giggles, enlighten us with your pecking order for medical care. So you just ignore the fact that Sweden isn't a NATO member but we have to defend them. Then you ignore how the vast majority of NATO countries ignore their financial obligations to NATO but we have to defend them. Then you throw up a false choice between the "poor baby" LOL, and the vet. If we cut back our military budget by the amount that NATO underfunds their obligations this wouldn't be an issue. As it stands right now the baby gets seen but the vet, and his family have to wait. I'm tired of being the worlds tit while our own go without. America First motherfucker!!
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Post by porgyman on Jan 26, 2017 15:53:59 GMT -5
So, the vet should be seen right away by the doc, while the poor baby waits. Got it. Shouldn't both be seen right away? Shouldn't both have access to the best medical care? Just for shits and giggles, enlighten us with your pecking order for medical care. So you just ignore the fact that Sweden isn't a NATO member but we have to defend them. Then you ignore how the vast majority of NATO countries ignore their financial obligations to NATO but we have to defend them. Then you throw up a false choice between the "poor baby" LOL, and the vet. If we cut back our military budget by the amount that NATO underfunds their obligations this wouldn't be an issue. As it stands right now the baby gets seen but the vet, and his family have to wait. I'm tired of being the worlds tit while our own go without. America First motherfucker!! Wow, where do I begin? So, you bring up access to medical care for vets vs Medicaid recipients, then you accuse me of raising a "false choice" between the "poor baby and the vet"? Are you insane? Regarding Sweden, once again look at a map. They are free and available online. Notice where it is located. Once again, can you not understand its strategic importance to the USA? If you can't get this....not much more that I can do.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 26, 2017 16:14:49 GMT -5
So you just ignore the fact that Sweden isn't a NATO member but we have to defend them. Then you ignore how the vast majority of NATO countries ignore their financial obligations to NATO but we have to defend them. Then you throw up a false choice between the "poor baby" LOL, and the vet. If we cut back our military budget by the amount that NATO underfunds their obligations this wouldn't be an issue. As it stands right now the baby gets seen but the vet, and his family have to wait. I'm tired of being the worlds tit while our own go without. America First motherfucker!! Wow, where do I begin? So, you bring up access to medical care for vets vs Medicaid recipients, then you accuse me of raising a "false choice" between the "poor baby and the vet"? Are you insane? Regarding Sweden, once again look at a map. They are free and available online. Notice where it is located. Once again, can you not understand its strategic importance to the USA? If you can't get this....not much more that I can do. I pointed out the fact that our vets and their families sometimes have to go months for routine medical care vs someone on Medicaid who gets seen immediately. You were the one who said to prioritize them. Now explain to me why we should defend Sweden, or Europe for that matter, at the expense of Americans and their well being. I'll wait.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 26, 2017 16:23:46 GMT -5
Wow, where do I begin? So, you bring up access to medical care for vets vs Medicaid recipients, then you accuse me of raising a "false choice" between the "poor baby and the vet"? Are you insane? Regarding Sweden, once again look at a map. They are free and available online. Notice where it is located. Once again, can you not understand its strategic importance to the USA? If you can't get this....not much more that I can do. Now explain to me why we should defend Sweden at the expense of Americans and their well being. I'll wait.
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Post by Big L on Jan 26, 2017 16:24:47 GMT -5
Wow, where do I begin? So, you bring up access to medical care for vets vs Medicaid recipients, then you accuse me of raising a "false choice" between the "poor baby and the vet"? Are you insane? Regarding Sweden, once again look at a map. They are free and available online. Notice where it is located. Once again, can you not understand its strategic importance to the USA? If you can't get this....not much more that I can do. I pointed out the fact that our vets and their families sometimes have to go months for routine medical care vs someone on Medicaid who gets seen immediately. You were the one who said to prioritize them. Now explain to me why we should defend Sweden, or Europe for that matter, at the expense of Americans and their well being. I'll wait. because when Russia decides to take over Europe, like Nazi Germany tried, we're in for a world of hurt, instead of just defending Europe from the start with NATO which Russia won't go against. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.
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Post by vin on Jan 26, 2017 16:24:52 GMT -5
^ he'll keep telling you to understand a non-existant "strategic importance" that Sweden has to the USA again, bxjetfan. It's no use talking with him/her/it.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 26, 2017 16:26:52 GMT -5
Now explain to me why we should defend Sweden at the expense of Americans and their well being. I'll wait. Fucker! We coulda debated a little before you went nuclear on me!!
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Post by vin on Jan 26, 2017 16:27:54 GMT -5
If Hilary became President, we would be in a world of Hurt since we'd be going to war with Russia.
At least Trump is going to make an effort to establish good relations with Putin so we won't be in their crosshairs should the shit hit the fan.
Frankly, I'm sick and tired of our country getting involved in OTHER countries wars. FUCK THAT SHIT.
WORRY ABOUT US. HERE. AMERICA. PERIOD.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jan 26, 2017 16:29:19 GMT -5
I pointed out the fact that our vets and their families sometimes have to go months for routine medical care vs someone on Medicaid who gets seen immediately. You were the one who said to prioritize them. Now explain to me why we should defend Sweden, or Europe for that matter, at the expense of Americans and their well being. I'll wait. because when Russia decides to take over Europe, like Nazi Germany tried, we're in for a world of hurt, instead of just defending Europe from the start with NATO which Russia won't go against. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it. So, all of Europe hasn't learned after being overrun by Germany during WW2 that having a strong army is important so we have to pay for their defense? LOL GTFO.
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Post by southparkcpa on Jan 26, 2017 16:32:21 GMT -5
we do..... and then we take it from the "AID" we send Mexico. Fukk them..why are you so against enforcing laws already on the books? I'm all for enforcing laws. That includes international law....something which bombing would violate. By the way.....Mexico currently spends a crap load of money in anti-terrorism post 9/11 efforts. Something that helps to keep us all safe. How about they retaliate by not paying for these efforts going forward? I am fairly confident, the GDP of mexico is not nearly strong enough where we need concern ourselves with "THEIR" protection, we provide them with much more than they could ever develop on their own. We waste hundreds of bilions on BS projects that could build the wall. We do NOT need mexico, they need us. No necissitamos ninguna mexicanos a todo. Vaya USA!
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 26, 2017 16:32:23 GMT -5
If Hilary became President, we would be in a world of Hurt since we'd be going to war with Russia. At least Trump is going to make an effort to establish good relations with Putin so we won't be in their crosshairs should the shit hit the fan. Frankly, I'm sick and tired of our country getting involved in OTHER countries wars. FUCK THAT SHIT. WORRY ABOUT US. HERE. AMERICA. PERIOD. ABSOLUTELY! Unless they got oil or something we need.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 26, 2017 16:33:19 GMT -5
I'm all for enforcing laws. That includes international law....something which bombing would violate. By the way.....Mexico currently spends a crap load of money in anti-terrorism post 9/11 efforts. Something that helps to keep us all safe. How about they retaliate by not paying for these efforts going forward? We waste hundreds of bilions on BS projects that could build the wall. Id like to fix a bridge or two.
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Post by porgyman on Jan 26, 2017 16:35:21 GMT -5
I pointed out the fact that our vets and their families sometimes have to go months for routine medical care vs someone on Medicaid who gets seen immediately. You were the one who said to prioritize them. Now explain to me why we should defend Sweden, or Europe for that matter, at the expense of Americans and their well being. I'll wait. because when Russia decides to take over Europe, like Nazi Germany tried, we're in for a world of hurt, instead of just defending Europe from the start with NATO which Russia won't go against. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it. Exactly. However, I don't think that you will be getting too much traction with that argument in this neighborhood. So, fuck it. Show me more bikini clad babes.
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Post by Ff2 on Jan 26, 2017 16:36:16 GMT -5
So, the vet should be seen right away by the doc, while the poor baby waits. Got it. Shouldn't both be seen right away? Shouldn't both have access to the best medical care? Just for shits and giggles, enlighten us with your pecking order for medical care. 1) My family 2) Me 3) Everyone else 1. My family 2. Me 3. Things family 4. That guy over there with the open festering wound sitting in that urine puddle. ... ... 3,693,045. Things
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