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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 16, 2016 8:02:19 GMT -5
Used to love this magazine as a child. What the fuck happened?
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 16, 2016 8:02:55 GMT -5
Thats a 9 year old on the cover btw. Wonder if she is getting hormone "therapy" at that age.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2016 8:30:26 GMT -5
Bring back the nude pygmies, with pointy boobies.
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Post by Jets Things on Dec 16, 2016 8:33:51 GMT -5
Mental illness
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 16, 2016 8:48:14 GMT -5
I've always felt I was a billionaire playboy trapped in the body of a working class nobody. Can someone please help me. I am tired of pretending not to be rich with babes falling all over me.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 16, 2016 9:34:40 GMT -5
Ignorance. To think that there are 6+ Billion people on the planet and every single one is born 100% male or female flies is the face of simple reproductive biology. I'd prefer these folks live their lives as they please. Rather than 1. Be miserable. 2. Kill themselves. "According to surveys, 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population has self-reported a suicide attempt, with that number climbing to between 10 and 20 percent for lesbian, gay or bisexual respondents. By comparison, 41 percent of trans or gender non-conforming people surveyed have attempted suicide." Call them mentally ill. call them freaks, whatever. Who are the hurting?
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 16, 2016 9:57:35 GMT -5
Did you just call him ignorant and then prove his point for him?
And what is your position on aiding a child's transition with hormones?
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Post by ruby2 on Dec 16, 2016 10:30:08 GMT -5
Ignorance. To think that there are 6+ Billion people on the planet and every single one is born 100% male or female flies is the face of simple reproductive biology. I'd prefer these folks live their lives as they please. Rather than 1. Be miserable. 2. Kill themselves. "According to surveys, 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population has self-reported a suicide attempt, with that number climbing to between 10 and 20 percent for lesbian, gay or bisexual respondents. By comparison, 41 percent of trans or gender non-conforming people surveyed have attempted suicide." Call them mentally ill. call them freaks, whatever. Who are the hurting? Can we at least wait until there brain fully develops before we start playing god. This is flat out insanity.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 16, 2016 10:30:43 GMT -5
Did you just call him ignorant and then prove his point for him? And what is your position on aiding a child's transition with hormones? I said on this topic he is showing his ignorance by calling this a mental illness. It is far more than that. Categorizing it at such shows a real limited understanding of the factors at play. (As does making this a "SJW" issue.) The American Psychiatric Association says gender nonconformity is not mental disorder. If you know better then them...rock on. And TBH, not interested in an internet kerfuffle with you on the rest.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 16, 2016 10:35:45 GMT -5
Ignorance. To think that there are 6+ Billion people on the planet and every single one is born 100% male or female flies is the face of simple reproductive biology. I'd prefer these folks live their lives as they please. Rather than 1. Be miserable. 2. Kill themselves. "According to surveys, 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population has self-reported a suicide attempt, with that number climbing to between 10 and 20 percent for lesbian, gay or bisexual respondents. By comparison, 41 percent of trans or gender non-conforming people surveyed have attempted suicide." Call them mentally ill. call them freaks, whatever. Who are the hurting? Can we at least wait until there brain fully develops before we start playing god. This is flat out insanity. I don't believe there was anything in my post about about that.
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 16, 2016 10:42:39 GMT -5
Did you just call him ignorant and then prove his point for him? And what is your position on aiding a child's transition with hormones? I said on this topic he is showing his ignorance by calling this a mental illness. It is far more than that. Categorizing it at such shows a real limited understanding of the factors at play. (As does making this a "SJW" issue.) And TBH, not interested in an internet kerfuffle with you on the rest. What factors are at play? And if you read the top left of the mag cover you will see that they are going the SJW route. "Making a man". It implies that gender is a "social construct".
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 16, 2016 10:44:12 GMT -5
You think they label it as that bc of the science or bc of the social backlash and stigma?
Gun to your head.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 16, 2016 10:48:52 GMT -5
I said on this topic he is showing his ignorance by calling this a mental illness. It is far more than that. Categorizing it at such shows a real limited understanding of the factors at play. (As does making this a "SJW" issue.) And TBH, not interested in an internet kerfuffle with you on the rest. What factors are at play? And if you read the top left of the mag cover you will see that they are going the SJW route. "Making a man". It implies that gender is a "social construct". Thats your interpretion of Making a Man...I'd have to read the interior. Gender is complicated. Involving mental AND biological AND societal factors.
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 16, 2016 10:54:38 GMT -5
You think they label it as that bc of the science or bc of the social backlash and stigma? Gun to your head. I'm not naive enough to believe that cant happen, but I've never seen any evidence from them that they operate like that. And they are echoed by many other sources. You are free to disagree of course. So gun to head, I'll go with them in this case...with added information from actual people I know and trust. (And you dont need to point a gun at me to get my opinion...geessh you guys love your guns.)
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Post by Jets Things on Dec 16, 2016 11:01:20 GMT -5
Ignorance. To think that there are 6+ Billion people on the planet and every single one is born 100% male or female flies is the face of simple reproductive biology. I'd prefer these folks live their lives as they please. Rather than 1. Be miserable. 2. Kill themselves. "According to surveys, 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population has self-reported a suicide attempt, with that number climbing to between 10 and 20 percent for lesbian, gay or bisexual respondents. By comparison, 41 percent of trans or gender non-conforming people surveyed have attempted suicide." Call them mentally ill. call them freaks, whatever. Who are the hurting? I'm not saying "these folks" should be miserable or kill themselves, dink. Live and let live. Aside from hermaphrodites where there is a clear biological anomaly, humans are genetically programmed to be male or female. You don't think their mind telling them otherwise is related to mental health? And who are they hurting? Are you comfortable knowing your teenage daughter could be using a public bathroom at the same time as some pervert because he "identifies" as female and no one wants to tell him to fuck off to the men's room because it might hurt his feelings?
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