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Post by Ff2 on Mar 9, 2017 19:11:52 GMT -5
Cant wait until all our rates go down once this is passed!
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Post by Gunnails on Mar 9, 2017 19:39:52 GMT -5
do you also think auto insurance should also be optional? =========================================== Auto insurance has always been optional and it remains that way. Unlike Obama Care unless your Amish like me. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 9, 2017 19:55:45 GMT -5
I thought the Obominator had only 22 million in his plan and only 2 to 3 million were screed up? Our Aetna plan from work actually stayed the same in price and some costs went away? Has anyone here experienced any negatives? Employer plans like yours and mine didn't have much appreciable change. But I do know plenty of people whose costs did go up considerably. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 9, 2017 19:59:11 GMT -5
do you also think auto insurance should also be optional? =========================================== Auto insurance has always been optional and it remains that way. Unlike Obama Care unless your Amish like me. Wait what? I thought every state but New Hampshire and Virginia required at least some level of liability insurance? |
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Post by Gunnails on Mar 9, 2017 20:22:56 GMT -5
=========================================== Auto insurance has always been optional and it remains that way. Unlike Obama Care unless your Amish like me. Wait what? I thought every state but New Hampshire and Virginia required at least some level of liability insurance? ================================== Only if you happen to own a car and wish to drive it on public roads, you don't have to drive or own a vehicle and those that don't are not mandated to buy insurance. As far as I know the Amish are not required to insure there buggies, nor do they have to buy Obama Care cause there religion is against it, I think American Indians are also not mandated to buy Obama Care just like congress. |
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Post by vin on Mar 9, 2017 21:15:18 GMT -5
do you also think auto insurance should also be optional? =========================================== Auto insurance has always been optional and it remains that way. Unlike Obama Care unless your Amish like me. Why do you HAVE ME as the one who said that in bold? It was Bushy who asked ME that question and I think he was being a sarcastic ass about it. |
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Post by BushytheLobster on Mar 9, 2017 21:17:16 GMT -5
=========================================== Auto insurance has always been optional and it remains that way. Unlike Obama Care unless your Amish like me. Why do you HAVE ME as the one who said that in bold? It was Bushy who asked ME that question and I think he was being a sarcastic ass about it. No sarcasm intended. It was a serious question. That said, GFY. |
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Post by vin on Mar 9, 2017 21:18:26 GMT -5
Oh and when I talked about Auto Insurance should be mandatory, it was assumed that this referred to those who had some mode of personal transportation(Car, Motorcycle, etc.).
If you don't have a car/motorcycle, then of course you don't need insurance(it wouldn't make sense to buy it) but I meant mandatory for those who do have one. That's all.
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Post by Gunnails on Mar 9, 2017 21:27:01 GMT -5
=========================================== Auto insurance has always been optional and it remains that way. Unlike Obama Care unless your Amish like me. Why do you HAVE ME as the one who said that in bold? It was Bushy who asked ME that question and I think he was being a sarcastic ass about it. ====================== My bad Vin, I think what happened was you quoted Bushy and with in your post I highlighted Bushys quote and did the quick quote thing and of course fucked it all up. Sorry. |
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Post by Gunnails on Mar 9, 2017 21:36:32 GMT -5
Oh and when I talked about Auto Insurance should be mandatory, it was assumed that this referred to those who had some mode of personal transportation(Car, Motorcycle, etc.). If you don't have a car/motorcycle, then of course you don't need insurance(it wouldn't make sense to buy it) but I meant mandatory for those who do have one. That's all. =========================== Car insurance does not compare in this case with Health insurance, and I realize I am splitting hairs here to an extent. Driving is a privilege and the Govt. can require us to pass a test to drive and mandate that we have insurance, I'm good with this. Owning a firearm is a right, and the Govt can not mandate that we have insurance on our guns. Or at least they haven't been able to yet. The Govt. should not mandate that we buy Health Ins., because unlike car insurance we can chose not to drive or own a vehicle, with Obama Care we were given no choice. |
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Post by Hotman on Mar 10, 2017 0:39:20 GMT -5
This is EXCELLENT news and I will be going to the ER for shit I have needed for 8 years now. DGAF deal with it. tough shit. GFY. Bitch about the lifetime salaries and corporate welfare. I'm gettin mine fuckers. TY papa Trump LOL! Does the ER prescribe Kratom? No, kratom is and always should be legal. Enought of these cocksuckers war on plants. I'm gonna fucking treat myself and they can fuck off about it. Their poison doesn't work and I hope they choke on it |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 10, 2017 11:11:50 GMT -5
Wait what? I thought every state but New Hampshire and Virginia required at least some level of liability insurance? ================================== Only if you happen to own a car and wish to drive it on public roads, you don't have to drive or own a vehicle and those that don't are not mandated to buy insurance. Fair enough... i thought for purposes of the discussion it was assumed we were talking about people who owned cars and drove on public roads. Either way, i agree that there shouldnt be a mandate to buy health insurance. |
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Post by BushytheLobster on Mar 13, 2017 7:36:48 GMT -5
================================== Only if you happen to own a car and wish to drive it on public roads, you don't have to drive or own a vehicle and those that don't are not mandated to buy insurance. Fair enough... i thought for purposes of the discussion it was assumed we were talking about people who owned cars and drove on public roads. Either way, i agree that there shouldnt be a mandate to buy health insurance. I'd be ok with that PROVIDED there was no mandate that doctors and hospitals have to treat everyone regardless of their ability to pay. If you choose to roll the dice and go without insurance you should have to live with the consequences. |
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Post by flushingjet on Mar 13, 2017 9:14:43 GMT -5
Fair enough... i thought for purposes of the discussion it was assumed we were talking about people who owned cars and drove on public roads. Either way, i agree that there shouldnt be a mandate to buy health insurance. I'd be ok with that PROVIDED there was no mandate that doctors and hospitals have to treat everyone regardless of their ability to pay. If you choose to roll the dice and go without insurance you should have to live with the consequences. Liberals don't believe that for a second, but: Public and private hospitals alike are prohibited by law from denying a patient care in an emergency. The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA) passed by Congress in 1986 explicitly forbids the denial of care to indigent or uninsured patients based on a lack of ability to pay. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Mar 13, 2017 11:20:03 GMT -5
I'd be ok with that PROVIDED there was no mandate that doctors and hospitals have to treat everyone regardless of their ability to pay. If you choose to roll the dice and go without insurance you should have to live with the consequences. Liberals don't believe that for a second, but: Public and private hospitals alike are prohibited by law from denying a patient care in an emergency.
The Emergency Medical and Treatment Labor Act (EMTLA) passed by Congress in 1986 explicitly forbids
the denial of care to indigent or uninsured patients based on a lack of ability to pay.And thats what makes me laugh when people paint this picture that folks are going to be dying in the streets... everyone gets ER care by law, right? |
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