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Post by yankeejet22 on Mar 22, 2017 9:26:21 GMT -5
Will Big Mac draft a QB? I say he will not.
So put your name on it.
btw, this isn't a "should they?" but a "WILL they?" prediction.
To alleviate the possibility of a vote for "they will, possibly in the late rounds" I've narrowed it down to a Yes, in the first 5 rounds.
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Post by Touchable on Mar 22, 2017 9:34:58 GMT -5
I have a feeling all 3 of the top QB's are going to be staring the Jets in the face at #6 barring a team trading into the Top 5.
I'm about 80% sure that they'd go in a different direction.
But I can't just ignore the reports over the last 2 months about the Jets really liking Trubisky. Out of all the QB's in the draft, he would be the one I wouldn't be overly upset over taking. The lack of experience scares you a bit but the kids accuracy and ball placement are top notch. Very talented rhythm passer. There's no guarantee that Darnold comes out next year and it's not as if the Jets are a lock to end up with a Top 3 pick. Would it really surprise anyone if we win 6 or 7 games this season and wind up picking in the 12-15 range?
My gut tells me we walk away with Howard or a DB like Hooker/Lattimore at #6.
But Trubisky wouldn't be the end of the world in my view. Watson I want nothing to do with. Don't give a shit about drafting some QB who still needs to learn how to play from the pocket.
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Post by RobR on Mar 22, 2017 9:35:37 GMT -5
No
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Post by Lithfan on Mar 22, 2017 9:39:16 GMT -5
I am going to say no. I don't want them to and I don't think they will.
The "draft a QB each year" thing hasn't exactly worked out for us. 7 QBs in the last 9 years and look where we are at anyway. Instead of drafting one every year, you target a guy you really like when he is available and do everything you possibly can to get him. If that guy does not exist this year, then pass and see what happens next year.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Mar 22, 2017 10:31:19 GMT -5
I am going to say no. I don't want them to and I don't think they will. The "draft a QB each year" thing hasn't exactly worked out for us. 7 QBs in the last 9 years and look where we are at anyway. Instead of drafting one every year, you target a guy you really like when he is available and do everything you possibly can to get him. If that guy does not exist this year, then pass and see what happens next year. +1 Imagine if the Jets draft Trubitsky, he never plays, they roll out a 3 win season, and are sitting with the first or second pick in the draft? Are they gonna draft another friggin QB? Petty, Hack, Trabitsky, and then another one? Is it worth bypassing a stud player to take a another developmental QB? No fucking way. Now, next year if they're not sold on Hack, and Darnold is there, of course, take him. But can we please at least play Hackenberg this year, and forget QB for a year. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Mar 22, 2017 10:52:53 GMT -5
I honestly don't know. This offseason has gone almost perfect so far so it's only fitting that they draft at QB at 6 to piss me off.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 22, 2017 14:23:54 GMT -5
Maybe they bring in an UDFA for rookie mini camp and as a camp body, but I can't see a situation where they use a pick in the first 6 rounds.
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Post by Paradis on Mar 22, 2017 14:32:35 GMT -5
the whole situation would be career-suicid.... unless you reeeeeeally believed Trubisky could blow up year 1.
--cause u can't start Trubisky over Hack. That's like saying we have no fucking clue what we're doing. Red shirt one guy and rush the other?
--If Trubisky struggles, THEN you suddenly go to Hack? what the hell kind of message does that send?
--And if you bench Hack for Trubisky, and he's shit, then you're basically telling the entire world we're fucked.
--So you start Josh.... then try Hack... then try trubisky? What kind of crapshoot is this?
--So if you're planning benching trubisky this year, why fucking draft him at all at 6?? Just wait till next year and get a better guy with no Hack in the equation.
I'm telling you, there's no sure-thing enough at QB to risk spending #6 on one. 10% chance of success and keeping his job.
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Post by maury77 on Mar 22, 2017 20:42:30 GMT -5
Unless Garrett, Fournette or Adams are there at 6, I think there is a good chance the Jets are picking Watson or Trubisky .... and I'd be totally ok with it.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Mar 22, 2017 20:56:02 GMT -5
Unless Garrett, Fournette or Adams are there at 6, I think there is a good chance the Jets are picking Watson or Trubisky .... and I'd be totally ok with it. Neither Trubisky or Waston are ready to start. Also what happens to Hack? I mean I already think the pick was embarrassing, but Macc should be fired if he just wasted a 2nd round pick on a QB who will never play for us. Then what happens when we go 1-15 and have the first pick in 2018? Do we take Darnold and have 3 QBs highly drafted QBs with little to no NFL experience. I mean talk about shitting the bed and having no plan. That would be a 3 stooges like move, which is why I already expect it to happen, but I sure as shit won't be ok with it  . |
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Post by maury77 on Mar 22, 2017 22:34:02 GMT -5
Unless Garrett, Fournette or Adams are there at 6, I think there is a good chance the Jets are picking Watson or Trubisky .... and I'd be totally ok with it. Neither Trubisky or Waston are ready to start. Also what happens to Hack? I mean I already think the pick was embarrassing, but Macc should be fired if he just wasted a 2nd round pick on a QB who will never play for us. Then what happens when we go 1-15 and have the first pick in 2018? Do we take Darnold and have 3 QBs highly drafted QBs with little to no NFL experience. I mean talk about shitting the bed and having no plan. That would be a 3 stooges like move, which is why I already expect it to happen, but I sure as shit won't be ok with it . 1) I don't really care that either Trubisky or Watson is ready to start. That's why we have McCown? 2) Hack? He blows and has very little shot into turning into a decent starting QB. Most of us here hold that position. Should Macc keep his job if he passes on Watson or Trubisky and either turns into a good starting QB? Part of being a good executive is realizing a sunk cost. If something better than Hack rolls along, just make the pick. There are examples of this thinking working out in the past (Panthers selecting Cam after selecting Clausen in the second the previous year). 3) We don't know that we are going 1-15. We don't know that Darnold will come out (he will be a sophomore and Peyton Manning didn't come out the last time we held the first pick in the draft). 4) We don't know how Darnold (or Rosen, Allen, etc.) are going to be looked at come draft time next year. None of those guys is a Andrew Luck level prospect. 4) |
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Post by RobR on Mar 22, 2017 23:00:38 GMT -5
Neither Trubisky or Waston are ready to start. Also what happens to Hack? I mean I already think the pick was embarrassing, but Macc should be fired if he just wasted a 2nd round pick on a QB who will never play for us. Then what happens when we go 1-15 and have the first pick in 2018? Do we take Darnold and have 3 QBs highly drafted QBs with little to no NFL experience. I mean talk about shitting the bed and having no plan. That would be a 3 stooges like move, which is why I already expect it to happen, but I sure as shit won't be ok with it . 1) I don't really care that either Trubisky or Watson is ready to start. That's why we have McCown? 2) Hack? He blows and has very little shot into turning into a decent starting QB. Most of us here hold that position. Should Macc keep his job if he passes on Watson or Trubisky and either turns into a good starting QB? Part of being a good executive is realizing a sunk cost. If something better than Hack rolls along, just make the pick. There are examples of this thinking working out in the past (Panthers selecting Cam after selecting Clausen in the second the previous year). 3) We don't know that we are going 1-15. We don't know that Darnold will come out (he will be a sophomore and Peyton Manning didn't come out the last time we held the first pick in the draft). 4) We don't know how Darnold (or Rosen, Allen, etc.) are going to be looked at come draft time next year. None of those guys is a Andrew Luck level prospect. 4) If I could dislike this post twice I would. The 2018 QB class is another 1983 class reincarnated with multiple prospects worthy of first round picks. Even if Darnold stays another year which is doubtful, there will be multiple top end QB's to choose from. If you put Watson or Trubinsky into the 2018 draft they would be the 7th to 8th QB selected which is typical 3rd-4th round fodder. |
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Mar 22, 2017 23:09:44 GMT -5
Neither Trubisky or Waston are ready to start. Also what happens to Hack? I mean I already think the pick was embarrassing, but Macc should be fired if he just wasted a 2nd round pick on a QB who will never play for us. Then what happens when we go 1-15 and have the first pick in 2018? Do we take Darnold and have 3 QBs highly drafted QBs with little to no NFL experience. I mean talk about shitting the bed and having no plan. That would be a 3 stooges like move, which is why I already expect it to happen, but I sure as shit won't be ok with it . 1) I don't really care that either Trubisky or Watson is ready to start. That's why we have McCown? 2) Hack? He blows and has very little shot into turning into a decent starting QB. Most of us here hold that position. Should Macc keep his job if he passes on Watson or Trubisky and either turns into a good starting QB? Part of being a good executive is realizing a sunk cost. If something better than Hack rolls along, just make the pick. There are examples of this thinking working out in the past (Panthers selecting Cam after selecting Clausen in the second the previous year). 3) We don't know that we are going 1-15. We don't know that Darnold will come out (he will be a sophomore and Peyton Manning didn't come out the last time we held the first pick in the draft). 4) We don't know how Darnold (or Rosen, Allen, etc.) are going to be looked at come draft time next year. None of those guys is a Andrew Luck level prospect. 4) Cam was a much better prospect than Trubisky and Waston. If there was a Cam sitting at 6 I'd go for it. That's why I'm not for taking either at 6 is because I don't think either are a franchise QB. To me would feel like another wasted pick just like Hack. By the time we finally do find a QB we'll have no talent to surround them with because we kept pissing away top picks on mediocre to terrible QB prospects. Watson mayyybe turns into an Aaron Brooks, but too me that's still not worth #6. And yes we don't know if they'll come out or be good. Oh well, then we can take the next big stud. Maybe that's Derwin James who looks like the next S.ean Taylor. |
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Post by yankeejet22 on Mar 23, 2017 11:22:12 GMT -5
Neither Trubisky or Waston are ready to start. Also what happens to Hack? I mean I already think the pick was embarrassing, but Macc should be fired if he just wasted a 2nd round pick on a QB who will never play for us. Then what happens when we go 1-15 and have the first pick in 2018? Do we take Darnold and have 3 QBs highly drafted QBs with little to no NFL experience. I mean talk about shitting the bed and having no plan. That would be a 3 stooges like move, which is why I already expect it to happen, but I sure as shit won't be ok with it . 2) Hack? He blows and has very little shot into turning into a decent starting QB. Most of us here hold that position. Should Macc keep his job if he passes on Watson or Trubisky and either turns into a good starting QB? Part of being a good executive is realizing a sunk cost. If something better than Hack rolls along, just make the pick. There are examples of this thinking working out in the past (Panthers selecting Cam after selecting Clausen in the second the previous year). You and many others have reduced Hackenberg to the worst QB prospect ever to put on a uniform. I liked him coming out, and I like him even more now that he's one year removed from the gimmicky shit that Franklin runs at PS. We'll see. |
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Post by peppep on Mar 23, 2017 11:41:11 GMT -5
The NY Jets WILL NOT draft a QB 6th overall.
If ALL the QBs are on the board at 6, which is very possible, Macc will be on the phone trying to move down.
If he is unable to move down, I expect the Jets to take Hooker. I think Adams will go to the Titans 5th overall. If Fournette is there, I expect the Jets to take HIM. But I believe he will go to the Jags 4th overall.
There is a possibility the Jets may like OJ Howard enough to pull the trigger on him at 6. But that is really high, especially with the depth of TEs in this draft.
I know a lot of people are predicting the Jets take Lattimore. Not me. I just don't see what all the hype is about him. I believed S.Jones was the best CB prospect in this class. But the injury will clearly drop him considerably. This draft is full of CB talent, but there are only two premier safety prospects. Both playmakers and game changers. Hooker is one of them. And from all the reports I've heard, his surgery will not drop his draft stock much.
So, to me, the most likely scenario is that the Jets take Hooker. I think the top 5 will lay out something like this.
CLE: Garrett
SF: Allen
CHI: S.Thomas
Jax: Fournette
Tenn: Adams
NYJ: Hooker
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