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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 28, 2017 0:19:21 GMT -5
Nice pick. Welcome aboard!
Here's what some are saying about him.
I think there's a chance that the Jets turned a major weakness into the strength of the Defense in one pick. We'll see.
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Apr 28, 2017 0:29:08 GMT -5
Love the player, but he's no Ed Reed. The fact that this guy compared the two shows he's an idiot.
Jamal Adams: Is a leader that makes sure everyone is in the right position. He'll be the first one to pump up a teammate, but also call them out when they fuck up. He's average/above average in coverage. He's a pest, but doesn't cross the line He's good in run support, but misses some tackles. It's not Pryor bad tho.
Overall he's someone you build around. I wanted to move down from 6, but he has one of the highest floors and will make players better.
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Post by maury77 on Apr 28, 2017 5:46:36 GMT -5
There are 2 things that made Ed Reed special:
1) His range and playmaking ability in the secondary. Adams is no Reed in this regard (Hooker is closer to Reed in this regard); and
2) Leadership. Going back to his UM days, Ed Reed was a fiery leader. Adams is comparable to Reed in this regard.
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Post by DDNYjets on Apr 28, 2017 5:58:52 GMT -5
I heard he was the safest pick in the draft and second best player. That made me happy. Then a few picks later someone drafted the "best center fielder" in the draft. Thats what Ed Reed was and what I have always wanted and what we always needed.
And not for nothing but the knocks they are talking sound exactly like our other chatty first round safety.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Apr 28, 2017 6:06:34 GMT -5
I heard he was the safest pick in the draft and second best player. That made me happy. Then a few picks later someone drafted the "best center fielder" in the draft. Thats what Ed Reed was and what I have always wanted and what we always needed. And not for nothing but the knocks they are talking sound exactly like our other chatty first round safety. I assure you Adams is NOTHING like Pryor. Just because Hooker may have a little more "center fielder" in him, doesn't mean Adams can't cover ground back there. Adams is much better covering guys in the slot and way better at making plays near the line of scrimmage. Adams can do whatever you want a safety to do back there. I would have absolutely hated Hooker at 6 even if Adams was off the board.
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Post by maury77 on Apr 28, 2017 6:22:26 GMT -5
The criticisms against Adams as a centerfielder are off base. From the film I watched, LSU just didn't ask him to play the deep zone single high safety very often. We simply have to project whether he can do it or not. That being said, he certainly has displayed the instincts and athleticism to play as a CF.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Apr 28, 2017 6:25:10 GMT -5
I heard he was the safest pick in the draft and second best player. That made me happy. Then a few picks later someone drafted the "best center fielder" in the draft. Thats what Ed Reed was and what I have always wanted and what we always needed. And not for nothing but the knocks they are talking sound exactly like our other chatty first round safety. I assure you Adams is NOTHING like Pryor. Just because Hooker may have a little more "center fielder" in him, doesn't mean Adams can't cover ground back there. Adams is much better covering guys in the slot and way better at making plays near the line of scrimmage. Adams can do whatever you want a safety to do back there. I would have absolutely hated Hooker at 6 even if Adams was off the board. I was a big fan of the jets picking hooker early on, but the kid has lots of holes in his game, very little experience, and injury concerns. Very few, if any, scouts had hooker rated higher than Adams. The coverage stuff for safeties in the pros becomes more about game smarts than range anyway. It's about knowing what to do and where to be. It's not like your a CB who has to match a WR speed. And there is a chance that just having Adams in the meeting room with Pryor will make Pryor better. They have a chance to be a special tandem, a chance.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Apr 28, 2017 6:31:47 GMT -5
I assure you Adams is NOTHING like Pryor. Just because Hooker may have a little more "center fielder" in him, doesn't mean Adams can't cover ground back there. Adams is much better covering guys in the slot and way better at making plays near the line of scrimmage. Adams can do whatever you want a safety to do back there. I would have absolutely hated Hooker at 6 even if Adams was off the board. I was a big fan of the jets picking hooker early on, but the kid has lots of holes in his game, very little experience, and injury concerns. Very few, if any, scouts had hooker rated higher than Adams. The coverage stuff for safeties in the pros becomes more about game smarts than range anyway. It's about knowing what to do and where to be. It's not like your a CB who has to match a WR speed. And there is a chance that just having Adams in the meeting room with Pryor will make Pryor better. They have a chance to be a special tandem, a chance. There was a reason the Jets haven't announced whether they will pick up Pryor's 5th year option yet, I'm much less optimistic about Pryor all of sudden elevating his game. He is what he is.
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Post by Lithfan on Apr 28, 2017 6:44:56 GMT -5
2) Leadership. Going back to his UM days, Ed Reed was a fiery leader. Adams is comparable to Reed in this regard. This is the part that stuck out for me. Leading up to the draft yesterday, it seemed as if everyone who met the kid loved him as a natural leader. Lewis Riddick, a former scout even said he would take him #1 ahead of Garrett. He was just raving about his leadership ability and how he will instantly elevate the guys around him. Last night, I was disappointed that we didn't take Howard/Williams/Davis. I think the 9 years of history got to me. Thought it was a lot like the Leonard Williams pick from 2 years ago, but with one huge difference. Adams plays a position of need and instantly makes the team better. I love his instincts at the line of scrimmage, in the run and screen game. I wanted an offensive playmaker, but the team is much better today than they were yesterday. I can't complain about the pick.
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Post by fullblast on Apr 28, 2017 6:54:44 GMT -5
I read that he had no penalties called against him in 2016 and has never had a holding or PI called against him. Obviously the NFL is a completely different beast but sounds like he's a pretty disciplined player.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Apr 28, 2017 7:18:05 GMT -5
Pretty cool that Jamal and his father George were both 1st round picks by NY teams. Welcome to the Jets, Jamal.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Apr 28, 2017 8:26:08 GMT -5
Gruden said he had him as the best player in the draft, for what thats worth. Ed Orgeron said hes one of the best safeties hes ever been around (obv. hes biased having coached him). The consensus seems to be he was at worst one of the top three players in the draft, and to some, the best. It may not be a sexy pick, but he has a higher floor it seems than pretty much anyone else, so its safe. And it IS an area of need (we have a ton of needs).
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Post by 32Green on Apr 28, 2017 8:33:44 GMT -5
2) Leadership. Going back to his UM days, Ed Reed was a fiery leader. Adams is comparable to Reed in this regard. This is the part that stuck out for me. Leading up to the draft yesterday, it seemed as if everyone who met the kid loved him as a natural leader. +1 Going back to Rex, this team has had a dearth of leadership and character. At least Brandon Marshall, as quirky as he is, tried, and was roundly branded a kook for opening up his mouth. Hopefully this kid can bring a real identity back to the D because truthfully, they've been living on rep for years without scaring anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 8:42:21 GMT -5
I assure you Adams is NOTHING like Pryor. Just because Hooker may have a little more "center fielder" in him, doesn't mean Adams can't cover ground back there. Adams is much better covering guys in the slot and way better at making plays near the line of scrimmage. Adams can do whatever you want a safety to do back there. I would have absolutely hated Hooker at 6 even if Adams was off the board. I was a big fan of the jets picking hooker early on, but the kid has lots of holes in his game, very little experience, and injury concerns. Very few, if any, scouts had hooker rated higher than Adams. The coverage stuff for safeties in the pros becomes more about game smarts than range anyway. It's about knowing what to do and where to be. It's not like your a CB who has to match a WR speed. And there is a chance that just having Adams in the meeting room with Pryor will make Pryor better. They have a chance to be a special tandem, a chance. Hooker is essentially Antonio Cromartie at safety, he'll make great plays on the ball, but don't ask him to tackle.....anyone. For every INT Hooker gets, they'll be another 5 plays in which he misses a tackle and the offense gets 10+ extra yards.
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Post by crossfire on Apr 28, 2017 8:44:25 GMT -5
Keith mentioned how the 9 years of defensive pics got to him. Well, he could be speaking for all of us. I wanted offense but only certain guys and I was ok with defense but only certain guys.
I want nothing short of a complete rebuild. And if you've going to do that, you only look at the players on your roster who are worth keeping, the players on other teams wortth attaining and the players worth drafting.
Adams fits the latter.
I have no idea what we have in Hackenberg. I can honestly say that I am not overly optimistic about him. I like certain things about him. He's smart and was loyal to Penn State when it would have been easy to bail on the program. He has/had talent but took a beating after PSU lost the scholarships. Ultimately, I don't care about the excuses, I care about the results.
Only the homerest of homers truly believes that Hack is going to be good. Most of us are cynical. Hopefully we are all proven wrong. But if not, I hope we have a dogshit year and get the first pick in the 2018 draft.
If the draft has proven anything to us all, it's that every draft has a QB that people fall in love with, despite the scouting reports of other teams and the media.
I am hoping to nab one of those QBs next year.
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