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Post by Harrier on Apr 28, 2017 16:44:05 GMT -5
Seriously? The Jets just blew another 1st round pick on a non-playmaking, non-gamechanging safety and you guys are pounding your puds? Isn't that why they wasted a 1st round pick on Pryor a couple of years ago? Good luck scoring 10 points a game with the worst offense in the NFL. Ground and pound baby.
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Post by JStokes on Apr 28, 2017 16:44:25 GMT -5
If you saw Hack play his freshman year you realize his "projection" as a number 1 pick was the same reason we drafted him. Because he was big with a big arm. Not because he was any good. And the "projections" about Geno were Pie in the sky projections based on gaudy numbers against James Madison. I mean, who knew James Madison even played football. Once he faced real completion no one ever again mentioned the Heisman or the number 1 pick. It'd be like projecting Lamar Jackson or in the past Colt Brennan as the number 1 pick. We obviously have to watch him this year but Darnold and for me Falk give me the very impression they'll be future NFL starters. _ But those were the projections. And there are Barkleys and Leinharts that followed a similar pattern after playing more solid competition. I like the qbs next year, just saying there is a lot that will happen between now and then. Of course. I don't base my views on projections. I base them on what I see. Projections are stupid. _
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Post by Touchable on Apr 28, 2017 16:45:23 GMT -5
If you saw Hack play his freshman year you realize his "projection" as a number 1 pick was the same reason we drafted him. Because he was big with a big arm. Not because he was any good. And the "projections" about Geno were Pie in the sky projections based on gaudy numbers against James Madison. I mean, who knew James Madison even played football. Once he faced real completion no one ever again mentioned the Heisman or the number 1 pick. It'd be like projecting Lamar Jackson or in the past Colt Brennan as the number 1 pick. We obviously have to watch him this year but Darnold and for me Falk give me the very impression they'll be future NFL starters. _ But those were the projections. And there are Barkleys and Leinharts that followed a similar pattern after playing more solid competition. I like the qbs next year, just saying there is a lot that will happen between now and then. Leinart, Sanchez, Barkley...those guys never had a fraction of the raw physical talent that Darnold possesses. If he stays healthy and has another big year, he's easily the best QB prospect since Luck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 16:48:09 GMT -5
Seriously? The Jets just blew another 1st round pick on a non-playmaking, non-gamechanging safety and you guys are pounding your puds? Isn't that why they wasted a 1st round pick on Pryor a couple of years ago? Good luck scoring 10 points a game with the worst offense in the NFL. Ground and pound baby. Pure gold right there!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 17:03:10 GMT -5
Seriously? The Jets just blew another 1st round pick on a non-playmaking, non-gamechanging safety and you guys are pounding your puds? Isn't that why they wasted a 1st round pick on Pryor a couple of years ago? Good luck scoring 10 points a game with the worst offense in the NFL. Hey jerkoff- you realize you quoted a video that none of us had any input into? Why don't you email Gruden. Jerkoff. _ Why would I even watch the stupid video even if it was available? My point remains, the stupid Jets FO screwed up once again. Either trade down (it was pretty easy for the Browns and Bills) or take the best offensive player available. SOJ's with their same old stupid defensive mentality for the last 10 years. Jets won't see the north side of .500 for the next 5 years with a FO living in the 1950's.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 28, 2017 17:20:49 GMT -5
Just watched the Adams presser, if we got a stud player it also looks like we got a stud human being. This guy will be a terrific leader and set the tone, he's very likeable dude.
Get that POS Sheldon off the team and our locker room has a solid foundation of young leaders goin forward in Williams, Lee and Adams.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 28, 2017 17:23:36 GMT -5
Hey jerkoff- you realize you quoted a video that none of us had any input into? Why don't you email Gruden. Jerkoff. _ Why would I even watch the stupid video even if it was available? My point remains, the stupid Jets FO screwed up once again. Either trade down (it was pretty easy for the Browns and Bills) or take the best offensive player available. SOJ's with their same old stupid defensive mentality for the last 10 years. Jets won't see the north side of .500 for the next 5 years with a FO living in the 1950's. As a rival fan this should make you happy, yet you seem a little pissed off by our decision to go defense again. I'm detecting closet jet fan pheromones.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 17:44:36 GMT -5
Why would I even watch the stupid video even if it was available? My point remains, the stupid Jets FO screwed up once again. Either trade down (it was pretty easy for the Browns and Bills) or take the best offensive player available. SOJ's with their same old stupid defensive mentality for the last 10 years. Jets won't see the north side of .500 for the next 5 years with a FO living in the 1950's. As a rival fan this should make you happy, yet you seem a little pissed off by our decision to go defense again. I'm detecting closet jet fan pheromones. Look, I miss the days of who is better, Pennyboywonder or Brady. That was when the Pats and Jets were fighting for the AFCE title. Now the only competition (as weak as it is) is the Bills and the Phins. Jets have the dumbest owner and FO in the NFL.
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Post by clarkgriswold on Apr 28, 2017 17:51:33 GMT -5
As a rival fan this should make you happy, yet you seem a little pissed off by our decision to go defense again. I'm detecting closet jet fan pheromones. Look, I miss the days of who is better, Pennyboywonder or Brady. That was when the Pats and Jets were fighting for the AFCE title. Now the only competition (as weak as it is) is the Bills and the Phins. Jets have the dumbest owner and FO in the NFL. I have to agree that woody and Bowles are two of the dumbest in the league. Mac and Bowles never had meetings during the week during the season. They were both hired on the same day (Mac didn't hire Bowles) and woody has separate meetings with both lol. What successful NFL team operates like that? None of them. the New York jets are the Dumbest organization in the NFL
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 28, 2017 17:57:53 GMT -5
Just watched the Adams presser, if we got a stud player it also looks like we got a stud human being. This guy will be a terrific leader and set the tone, he's very likeable dude. Get that POS Sheldon off the team and our locker room has a solid foundation of young leaders goin forward in Williams, Lee and Adams. Lee? He sucked last year.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 28, 2017 18:00:26 GMT -5
Just watched the Adams presser, if we got a stud player it also looks like we got a stud human being. This guy will be a terrific leader and set the tone, he's very likeable dude. Get that POS Sheldon off the team and our locker room has a solid foundation of young leaders goin forward in Williams, Lee and Adams. Lee? He sucked last year. He sucked in coverage but he also did some decent things, I'm gonna give him another year before labelling him another bust.
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Post by JStokes on Apr 28, 2017 18:22:02 GMT -5
Hey jerkoff- you realize you quoted a video that none of us had any input into? Why don't you email Gruden. Jerkoff. _ Why would I even watch the stupid video even if it was available? My point remains, the stupid Jets FO screwed up once again. Either trade down (it was pretty easy for the Browns and Bills) or take the best offensive player available. SOJ's with their same old stupid defensive mentality for the last 10 years. Jets won't see the north side of .500 for the next 5 years with a FO living in the 1950's. Fuck off. If I wanted any more shit from you I'll squeeze your head. _
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Post by ryu79 on Apr 28, 2017 20:52:50 GMT -5
But those were the projections. And there are Barkleys and Leinharts that followed a similar pattern after playing more solid competition. I like the qbs next year, just saying there is a lot that will happen between now and then. Of course. I don't base my views on projections. I base them on what I see. Projections are stupid. _ I actually agree with you about hoping we draft one of the Qbs expected up for next year's draft - but can't help myself. You ARE projecting where they will be next year - we don't know how they'll perform a year from now, if any will get hurt or have a big regression. I can't help making the same judgement, but think its good to acknowledge the risks in that approach.
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Post by JStokes on Apr 28, 2017 20:59:59 GMT -5
Of course. I don't base my views on projections. I base them on what I see. Projections are stupid. _ I actually agree with you about hoping we draft one of the Qbs expected up for next year's draft - but can't help myself. You ARE projecting where they will be next year - we don't know how they'll perform a year from now, if any will get hurt or have a big regression. I can't help making the same judgement, but think its good to acknowledge the risks in that approach. Yeah but next year I personally believe there are 3 legit QBs. This year I thought there were zero. Same thing last year. Zero. So while no one knows what will happen, I personally think there will be very good choices next year-the best since Marcus. And Carr and Teddy before that. That's just me. _
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Post by RobR on Apr 28, 2017 22:14:33 GMT -5
Of course. I don't base my views on projections. I base them on what I see. Projections are stupid. _ I actually agree with you about hoping we draft one of the Qbs expected up for next year's draft - but can't help myself. You ARE projecting where they will be next year - we don't know how they'll perform a year from now, if any will get hurt or have a big regression. I can't help making the same judgement, but think its good to acknowledge the risks in that approach. Next year is 1983 all over again and I'm such a critical asshole when it comes too evaluating QB's. It's loaded and while some rankings will change, it's still going to be spectacular. The top QB this year would be the 6th or 7th prospect if these younger guys were able to declare.
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