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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 22, 2017 15:32:17 GMT -5
A lot of the Obamacare policies have such high deductibles the people would be better off without insurance unless something catastrophic happened. Thats literally what health insurance is for. And soon you and I will be paying for it full cost for 23,000,000 uninsured. Congrats. You know who goes to the doctor right now when they get sick? The people on Medicaid. You know who doesn't? The people with shitty plans and high deductibles. The system, created by Dems is broken. I don't see a single one of those cocksuckers trying to fix what they destroyed.
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 22, 2017 15:36:39 GMT -5
Thats literally what health insurance is for. And soon you and I will be paying for it full cost for 23,000,000 uninsured. Congrats. You know who goes to the doctor right now when they get sick? The people on Medicaid. You know who doesn't? The people with shitty plans and high deductibles. The system, created by Dems is broken. I don't see a single one of those cocksuckers trying to fix what they destroyed. And how does the new plan address this? And how dare the poor and elderly go to the doctor!
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 22, 2017 15:48:52 GMT -5
You know who goes to the doctor right now when they get sick? The people on Medicaid. You know who doesn't? The people with shitty plans and high deductibles. The system, created by Dems is broken. I don't see a single one of those cocksuckers trying to fix what they destroyed. And how does the new plan address this? And how dare the poor and elderly go to the doctor! Even the Dems couldn't pass single payer. The elderly use Medicare. There is something wrong when working people, veterans and active duty military personnel have shittier medical then Medicaid users. Those people are still going to be seen in emergency rooms. They shouldn't have carte balance to get routine medical care at the drop of a hat at the expense of the other people I mentioned.
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Post by flushingjet on Jun 22, 2017 15:53:16 GMT -5
I know social media and virtue signaling when I see it. Ditch the Blackberry and get an iPhone. I also know where granny's lamp chain tassel went, it went to Madonna before it became sapphic earring style. It would be helpful is you spoke something approaching sane human. I'll buy you a dictionary, so you could look up what I said to you. Sane humans don't kill the healthy unborn by the bagful and sell their parts to buy Maseratis ~or~ illegally import diseased unskilled subhumans by the trator-trailor load as slave labor working for below market wages while they refuse to assimilate into our society or at minimum follow the rule of law additionally allowing them to leech off of taxpayer-funded resources and participate in our political process just like the patriotic American citizens they are the exact opposite of. Is that helpful?
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 22, 2017 16:10:41 GMT -5
You make adjustments in the ACA to make it work. You have a flat tire you don't junk your car. The ACA not out of necessity was forced down the nation's throat by a (D) supermajority, no consensus or adjustments requested or desired. If it were a car it'd be a Yugo.
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 22, 2017 16:12:12 GMT -5
It would be helpful is you spoke something approaching sane human. I'll buy you a dictionary, so you could look up what I said to you. Sane humans don't kill the healthy unborn by the bagful and sell their parts to buy Maseratis ~or~ illegally import diseased unskilled subhumans by the trator-trailor load as slave labor working for below market wages while they refuse to assimilate into our society or at minimum follow the rule of law additionally allowing them to leech off of taxpayer-funded resources and participate in our political process just like the patriotic American citizens they are the exact opposite of. Is that helpful? Not at all. It would help you make points if you dealt with reality a bit.
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 22, 2017 16:17:09 GMT -5
And how does the new plan address this? And how dare the poor and elderly go to the doctor! They shouldn't have carte balance to get routine medical care at the drop of a hat at the expense of the other people I mentioned. What do they deserve?
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Post by Hotman on Jun 22, 2017 16:33:47 GMT -5
A bunch of hicks voted red. I'm shocked. This georgia victory should improve all of your lives vastly. Congratulations to everyone. There are almost no "hicks" what so ever in that area that voted. Not even close. just fyi I shouldn't even say almost, there ARE NONE. Oh yeah. Not a lot of racists either. Ppl are just sick and tired of liars like ff2
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Post by JStokes on Jun 22, 2017 16:36:14 GMT -5
A bunch of hicks voted red. I'm shocked. This georgia victory should improve all of your lives vastly. Congratulations to everyone. There are almost no "hicks" what so ever in that area that voted. Not even close. just fyi I shouldn't even say almost, there ARE NONE. Oh yeah. Not a lot of racists either. Ppl are just sick and tired of liars like ff2 Is that Buckhead? I have friend that live there. The oppposite of hicks. All wealthy professionals. _
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 22, 2017 16:41:47 GMT -5
They shouldn't have carte balance to get routine medical care at the drop of a hat at the expense of the other people I mentioned. What do they deserve? Why do you think people deserve free shit? They want to go to the Dr on a regular basis? Let em get a job and buy insurance.
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Post by Trades on Jun 22, 2017 16:56:12 GMT -5
A lot of the Obamacare policies have such high deductibles the people would be better off without insurance unless something catastrophic happened. Thats literally what health insurance is for. And soon you and I will be paying for it full cost for 23,000,000 uninsured. Congrats. Yes but it costs way to much because every policy must now pay for everything like sex changes and birth control even if you are a well adjusted man or woman in you 70s. the 23000000 is a joke and totally false numbers
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Post by Hotman on Jun 22, 2017 16:56:42 GMT -5
There are almost no "hicks" what so ever in that area that voted. Not even close. just fyi I shouldn't even say almost, there ARE NONE. Oh yeah. Not a lot of racists either. Ppl are just sick and tired of liars like ff2 Is that Buckhead? I have friend that live there. The oppposite of hicks. All wealthy professionals. _ Pretty much the equivalent yes. East Cobb, Alpharetta, Roswell... etc. Buckhead on a larger scale. They do not tolerate lesser income types around there and the cops see to it. Not gonna see your people of wal mart in those areas. Its where all the Drs and Lawyers etc live. White collar. Nice cars. Huge houses. Lots of golf clothes.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 22, 2017 17:00:46 GMT -5
They tried to jerry in areas of Dekalb that have a favorable.... makeup... to the left wing of the bird.
They did and they failed. Nobody wanted Pelosis cuck boy anywhere around here and they were sick of their fucking commercials.
and also, there are PLENTY of non-religious for the ppl (left wing looking to project blame when they should be looking in the mirror) who hate christians before that lil nugget gets dropped... So much for tolerance. morons those ppl. Running out of ppl to blame.
All those damn crackers!!
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 22, 2017 17:15:04 GMT -5
Why do you think people deserve free shit? They want to go to the Dr on a regular basis? Let em get a job and buy insurance. Kinda hard for seniors to do that. I'm genuinely wondering what you think unemployed, working poor and seniors deserve.
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 22, 2017 17:15:18 GMT -5
Our politics are divided. They have been for a long time. And while I know that division makes it difficult to listen to Americans with whom we disagree, that’s what we need to do today.
I recognize that repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act has become a core tenet of the Republican Party. Still, I hope that our Senators, many of whom I know well, step back and measure what’s really at stake, and consider that the rationale for action, on health care or any other issue, must be something more than simply undoing something that Democrats did.
We didn’t fight for the Affordable Care Act for more than a year in the public square for any personal or political gain – we fought for it because we knew it would save lives, prevent financial misery, and ultimately set this country we love on a better, healthier course.
Nor did we fight for it alone. Thousands upon thousands of Americans, including Republicans, threw themselves into that collective effort, not for political reasons, but for intensely personal ones – a sick child, a parent lost to cancer, the memory of medical bills that threatened to derail their dreams.
And you made a difference. For the first time, more than ninety percent of Americans know the security of health insurance. Health care costs, while still rising, have been rising at the slowest pace in fifty years. Women can’t be charged more for their insurance, young adults can stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, contraceptive care and preventive care are now free. Paying more, or being denied insurance altogether due to a preexisting condition – we made that a thing of the past.
We did these things together. So many of you made that change possible.
At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it.
That remains true. So I still hope that there are enough Republicans in Congress who remember that public service is not about sport or notching a political win, that there’s a reason we all chose to serve in the first place, and that hopefully, it’s to make people’s lives better, not worse.
But right now, after eight years, the legislation rushed through the House and the Senate without public hearings or debate would do the opposite. It would raise costs, reduce coverage, roll back protections, and ruin Medicaid as we know it. That’s not my opinion, but rather the conclusion of all objective analyses, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which found that 23 million Americans would lose insurance, to America’s doctors, nurses, and hospitals on the front lines of our health care system.
The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely.
Simply put, if there’s a chance you might get sick, get old, or start a family – this bill will do you harm. And small tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks, under the guise of making these bills easier to stomach, cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation.
I hope our Senators ask themselves – what will happen to the Americans grappling with opioid addiction who suddenly lose their coverage? What will happen to pregnant mothers, children with disabilities, poor adults and seniors who need long-term care once they can no longer count on Medicaid? What will happen if you have a medical emergency when insurance companies are once again allowed to exclude the benefits you need, send you unlimited bills, or set unaffordable deductibles? What impossible choices will working parents be forced to make if their child’s cancer treatment costs them more than their life savings?
To put the American people through that pain – while giving billionaires and corporations a massive tax cut in return – that’s tough to fathom. But it’s what’s at stake right now. So it remains my fervent hope that we step back and try to deliver on what the American people need.
That might take some time and compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I believe that’s what people want to see. I believe it would demonstrate the kind of leadership that appeals to Americans across party lines. And I believe that it’s possible – if you are willing to make a difference again. If you’re willing to call your members of Congress. If you are willing to visit their offices. If you are willing to speak out, let them and the country know, in very real terms, what this means for you and your family.
After all, this debate has always been about something bigger than politics. It’s about the character of our country – who we are, and who we aspire to be. And that’s always worth fighting for.
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