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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 22, 2017 17:22:07 GMT -5
Why do you think people deserve free shit? They want to go to the Dr on a regular basis? Let em get a job and buy insurance. Kinda hard for seniors to do that. I'm genuinely wondering what you think unemployed, working poor and seniors deserve. Why don't you ever answer questions?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 17:24:54 GMT -5
Fact: Too big to fail, too big to succeed.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 22, 2017 17:48:29 GMT -5
When the last insurer pulls out of Obamacare what happens to those people? Where do they go? You make adjustments in the ACA to make it work. You have a flat tire you don't junk your car. See thats the thing. You can't make adjustments to the ACA. The ACA is dependent on the individual mandate. Once you take that away it is dead. Fixing Obamacare is a myth. People need to realize the "popular parts" of the ACA can only exist with the individual mandate, subsidies and taxes. All of which are very unpopular with the people that pay them. So when they say they want to keep the good parts (pre-existing conditions, snowflakes on their parents insurance until they're eligible for medicare, etc) and get rid of the bad parts that is literally impossible to do. Average voter doesn't realize that. You can't have all the goodies without someone else paying for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 17:56:45 GMT -5
You make adjustments in the ACA to make it work. You have a flat tire you don't junk your car. See thats the thing. You can't make adjustments to the ACA. The ACA is dependent on the individual mandate. Once you take that away it is dead. Fixing Obamacare is a myth. People need to realize the "popular parts" of the ACA can only exist with the individual mandate, subsidies and taxes. All of which are very unpopular with the people that pay them. So when they say they want to keep the good parts (pre-existing conditions, snowflakes on their parents insurance until they're eligible for medicare, etc) and get rid of the bad parts that is literally impossible to do. Average voter doesn't realize that. You can't have all the goodies without someone else paying for them. Everything is near impossible in todays USA, to many factions everyone can't have everything someone has to make sacrifices you can't have a high survival rate and have people living till they are 100 it's going to get more and more difficult.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 22, 2017 18:06:39 GMT -5
See thats the thing. You can't make adjustments to the ACA. The ACA is dependent on the individual mandate. Once you take that away it is dead. Fixing Obamacare is a myth. People need to realize the "popular parts" of the ACA can only exist with the individual mandate, subsidies and taxes. All of which are very unpopular with the people that pay them. So when they say they want to keep the good parts (pre-existing conditions, snowflakes on their parents insurance until they're eligible for medicare, etc) and get rid of the bad parts that is literally impossible to do. Average voter doesn't realize that. You can't have all the goodies without someone else paying for them. Everything is near impossible in todays USA, to many factions everyone can't have everything someone has to make sacrifices you can't have a high survival rate and have people living till they are 100 it's going to get more and more difficult. I agree. We have been kicking Darwin's ass but sooner or later it becomes unsustainable. There will be a check. Im glad I wont be around for it.
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Post by flushingjet on Jun 22, 2017 18:22:28 GMT -5
They shouldn't have carte balance to get routine medical care at the drop of a hat at the expense of the other people I mentioned. What do they deserve? They deserve to be drop kicked the F out of this country to where they slithered in from. No more, no less.
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Post by Hotman on Jun 24, 2017 3:44:14 GMT -5
Everything is near impossible in todays USA, to many factions everyone can't have everything someone has to make sacrifices you can't have a high survival rate and have people living till they are 100 it's going to get more and more difficult. I agree. We have been kicking Darwin's ass but sooner or later it becomes unsustainable. There will be a check. Im glad I wont be around for it. Uhh... do you have a terminal illness or something?! Because every one of us and most of your parents will see that collapse. it is coming. This shit is on the brink. They are just about to onleash their death throws before they get taken down and exposed. Or they will finally gain control of the internet and kill everyone very strategically
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 24, 2017 6:04:56 GMT -5
I agree. We have been kicking Darwin's ass but sooner or later it becomes unsustainable. There will be a check. Im glad I wont be around for it. Uhh... do you have a terminal illness or something?! Because every one of us and most of your parents will see that collapse. it is coming. This shit is on the brink. They are just about to onleash their death throws before they get taken down and exposed. Or they will finally gain control of the internet and kill everyone very strategically I was referring to overpopulation, dwindling resources and the eventual mass extinction. You're right though. Before that there will be I'm B1g Brother dictatorships established, revolutions, wars and probably nuclear warfare. I just dont think it will happen in my lifetime. More than half the world's growth this century is going to come from sub-Saharan Africa. More refugees. Yay!! www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jun/21/world-population-to-hit-8bn-in-2023-says-new-un-surveyOnly one country on that list can feed itself. Barely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 7:45:25 GMT -5
Oh. Thats good by 2050 America will be no dominated by Brown people and they don't like the colreds.
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Post by Trades on Jun 24, 2017 7:57:31 GMT -5
Uhh... do you have a terminal illness or something?! Because every one of us and most of your parents will see that collapse. it is coming. This shit is on the brink. They are just about to onleash their death throws before they get taken down and exposed. Or they will finally gain control of the internet and kill everyone very strategically I was referring to overpopulation, dwindling resources and the eventual mass extinction. You're right though. Before that there will be I'm B1g Brother dictatorships established, revolutions, wars and probably nuclear warfare. I just dont think it will happen in my lifetime. More than half the world's growth this century is going to come from sub-Saharan Africa. More refugees. Yay!! www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jun/21/world-population-to-hit-8bn-in-2023-says-new-un-surveyOnly one country on that list can feed itself. Barely. There have been people crying about the coming unavailability of food for 100s of years and oil since we found out how to use it. Somehow human ingenuity provides. The problem is the bad people. The governments wanting to control and/or kill people for "the greater good". This is why the American system needs to recover and prosper. It is our FREEDOM that has led to these solutions. People are horrible about making predictions. They are rarely right. The poorest people in America live better than the royalty of people from 100 years ago. More, better, safer food. Refrigeration, heat, air conditioning, transportation knowledge, entertainment, medicine, EVERYTHING is better now. The one real problem is people that want the government to make our choices for us. Government is supposed to be here to protect our borders and enforce our laws. Everything else can be done in the private sector, better, cheaper and more efficiently. The fear mongering is just about control. The science is settled!!! Stop believing in the fear and work at fixing the problems that actually exist.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 24, 2017 8:38:34 GMT -5
I agree with what you are saying about the fear-mongering but Europe can only take on so much. You are having the most population growth in places that are the least equipped to support it. Naturally declining population in Europe so their solution is to replace it from other parts of the world. But all that does is replace the bodies with essentially dead weight. There is plenty information readily available about what percentages of these people actually find real work and pay into the system. Its only going to get worse.
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Post by Trades on Jun 24, 2017 8:54:33 GMT -5
I agree with what you are saying about the fear-mongering but Europe can only take on so much. You are having the most population growth in places that are the least equipped to support it. Naturally declining population in Europe so their solution is to replace it from other parts of the world. But all that does is replace the bodies with essentially dead weight. There is plenty information readily available about what percentages of these people actually find real work and pay into the system. Its only going to get worse. I agree with you and that is a government/philosophy problem. Adding people that don't assimilate and actually try to bring/force their third world agenda onto the country that took them in is suicide. The funny thing as I know you know is that the popular narrative regarding this idea is that we are racist and xenophobic for believing this while ignoring the elephant with a suicide vest in the room.
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