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Post by Hotman on Jan 14, 2015 8:48:10 GMT -5
But I have very little faith Geno will be too useful after what I've seen. Can't even figure out not to take a damn sack
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 14, 2015 8:56:56 GMT -5
Shotgun spread offense with nice easy reads. Similar to what Geno did at West Virginia so I think it's a great offense for him. Harvin and Kerley are going to be great in this offense b/c it's all predicated on quick throws to guys in open space that allows for YAC. Harvin, especially, will be dangerous in this offense. Hopefully he'll restructure. Yeah, but does anyone seriously want Geno Smith starting? I certainly don't think Geno is the answer at QB. Obviously, I am not a personnel guy or OC, but it seems that Geno's biggest problems are related to accuracy, ball security, and decision making (and the decision making could also be based on a lack of understanding what his eyes are seeing). If Gailey can improve Geno in those areas and make Geno into a competent QB, Geno will do for now. As an NFL OC, here are his QB and NFL rank in points and yards 1996 Steelers Mike Tomzack/Neil O'donnel 11/15 1997 Steelers Neil O'donnel 7/6 2000 Dolphins Jay Feidler 16/26 2001 Dolphins Jay Feidler 8/21 2008 Cheifs Tyler Thigpen, Damon Huard, Brody Croyle 26/24 LOL as I look at those QB's, Gailey's probably loving the idea of working with Geno. BTW, he somehow the entirely underwhelming KC QB trio combined for 307/530; 57.9%; 3236 yards; 20 TDs; 16 Ints I like the fact that there was improvement in the second year of his system in Pitt and Miami. We'll never know how KC would have done in his second year since Haley had a nervous breakdown, fired Gailey at the onset of the season, and went on to alienate the entire team, all of the employees in the front office, and each and every KC Chief fan.
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Post by choon328 on Jan 14, 2015 8:58:47 GMT -5
Shotgun spread offense with nice easy reads. Similar to what Geno did at West Virginia so I think it's a great offense for him. Harvin and Kerley are going to be great in this offense b/c it's all predicated on quick throws to guys in open space that allows for YAC. Harvin, especially, will be dangerous in this offense. Hopefully he'll restructure. Yeah, but does anyone seriously want Geno Smith starting? We'd all like Andrew Luck but that's not happening. I think we're going to have to come around to the idea that they're going to try to develop Geno next year. Unless of course somebody becomes available that would be a definitive upgrade.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 14, 2015 8:59:10 GMT -5
Is Gailey also part of the "Parcells coaching tree?" I know he succeeded him in Dallas... Gailey succeeded Barry Switzer? Parcellls came after Campo who replaced Gailey.
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Post by fullblast on Jan 14, 2015 8:59:40 GMT -5
Wasn't crazy about the Gailey hire initially, but I am really warming up to it. You need to disregard his failures as a HC and look at what he did as an OC. The guy has had a lot of success and he fielded competent offenses even when they had very little talent. I actually like the fact that he has was out of football for 2 years. Even if he was sitting on his ass doing nothing, it will not take him long to "catch up" on new developments over the past 2 seasons. I mean it's football, it's not like its been re-invented in the past 2 seasons. Anyway, the fact that he was retired and is coming back means that he really wants to coach. He's rested and ready to go. Most importantly, he's at a point in his life where he doesn't give a shit what people think about him. Plus, from what I've been reading Bowles wanted Gailey as his OC wherever he ended up as HC. So, there is apparently some sort of relationship (or respect) there. You can't have a HC and a couple of Co-ordinator "young guns". You need at least one guy in the coaching leadership who's "been there, done that". There is no substitute for the wisdom gained through experience. That "Old Man" Swag! I'd like to get there one day.
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Post by Trades on Jan 14, 2015 9:22:27 GMT -5
Good offensive mind with a classic, west coast background who was simply overmatched as a HC. Basically, he has the Norv Turner syndrome. A guy who is a damn good OC but a mediocre at best HC. I like the hire. If you seen his offense in action with the Bills, which I saw a lot of, you would see that he runs a spread offense similar to the Fucking Cocksuckers. A lot of quick throws getting guys the ball in space. 90% in Shotgun with 1 RB and 4 Wr's or 3 WR's and 1 TE split out. Not really a classic west coast guy besides the short passing. Personnel wise he's much different in my opinion. Seems like an offense that would benefit Geno who prospered in college with a quick strike O that let his WRs get YAC and minimized turn overs.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 14, 2015 9:33:21 GMT -5
I slept on it and now I like the Gailey move. Very experienced offensive coach and that's what a rookie HC in Bowles will need. I always liked bringing in Norv Turner and Gailey has similar production. He made Fitzpatrick look like a decent starter in Buffalo, and his spread offense translates well to our maligned young QB in Geno Smith.....like it or not he'll be around next season, and there's a significant chance he could start again.
For those of you that like to dream, Gailey's offense suits another hot QB prospect: Marcus Mariotta. If for some reason he falls to 6 it's very likely Mac pulls the trigger and takes him.
Gailey is not Schotty, far from Sporano, not MM, and there is not much better available at the moment as far as OCs go.....
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Post by Augustiniak on Jan 14, 2015 9:35:18 GMT -5
If you seen his offense in action with the Bills, which I saw a lot of, you would see that he runs a spread offense similar to the Fucking Cocksuckers. A lot of quick throws getting guys the ball in space. 90% in Shotgun with 1 RB and 4 Wr's or 3 WR's and 1 TE split out. Not really a classic west coast guy besides the short passing. Personnel wise he's much different in my opinion. Seems like an offense that would benefit Geno who prospered in college with a quick strike O that let his WRs get YAC and minimized turn overs. also wonder if it will finally influence the types of offensive players they target in FA and the draft, guys who can make people miss, guys who can turn short passes into long gains. maybe he can figure out how to get the most out of amaro.
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Jan 14, 2015 9:37:19 GMT -5
Thought the comment in bold was interesting:
Chan Gailey - C - Jets
Jets hired Chan Gailey as offensive coordinator.
Gailey, 63, has been out of the league since being fired as the Bills' head coach following the 2012 season, but he was Bowles' top choice to run the offense. Gailey went 16-32 across three seasons in Buffalo, but was able to make Ryan Fitzpatrick a serviceable starting quarterback and squeezed 1,703 total yards and eight touchdowns on 250 touches out of C.J. Spiller in an electrifying 2012 campaign. If the Jets choose to keep Percy Harvin at his $10.5 million salary, it could mean big things for him. Gailey likes to spread his offense out and run fast. He was Chip Kelly before Chip Kelly was a thing. We like the hire for the Jets.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 14, 2015 9:38:33 GMT -5
Shotgun spread offense with nice easy reads. Similar to what Geno did at West Virginia so I think it's a great offense for him. Harvin and Kerley are going to be great in this offense b/c it's all predicated on quick throws to guys in open space that allows for YAC. Harvin, especially, will be dangerous in this offense. Hopefully he'll restructure. Yeah, but does anyone seriously want Geno Smith starting? There's limited choices available, we may not land any of them and we need to accept that.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 14, 2015 9:42:21 GMT -5
Percy Harvin will be a monster next season if he sticks around.....
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Post by kuntysoze on Jan 14, 2015 10:24:43 GMT -5
What's all the negativity with Chan Gailey? The guy is a excellent OC. Does anybody remember how good he was as the Steelers OC? He is like Nov Turner terrible coach but a excellent OC. His offense is easy to learn and could really fix Geno if the Jets can't get a decent QB. This is the truth right here. Naysayers are too caught up with his HC record. He's an outstanding OC, though. Guys like him, Rex, Norv Turner, Wade Phillips, etc. can make for great co-ordinators but aren't cut out for head coaching. Nothing wong with that, so long as they stick to their specialty and nothing else. This is a really solid under-the-radar move.
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Post by Dcat on Jan 14, 2015 10:33:43 GMT -5
I slept on it and now I like the Gailey move. Very experienced offensive coach and that's what a rookie HC in Bowles will need. I always liked bringing in Norv Turner and Gailey has similar production. He made Fitzpatrick look like a decent starter in Buffalo, and his spread offense translates well to our maligned young QB in Geno Smith.....like it or not he'll be around next season, and there's a significant chance he could start again. For those of you that like to dream, Gailey's offense suits another hot QB prospect: Marcus Mariotta. If for some reason he falls to 6 it's very likely Mac pulls the trigger and takes him. Gailey is not Schotty, far from Sporano, not MM, and there is not much better available at the moment as far as OCs go..... and... his last name is not Hackett, who would have been in Florham Park had Woody hired Marrone. What a disaster that would have been.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 10:38:05 GMT -5
Shotgun spread offense with nice easy reads. Similar to what Geno did at West Virginia so I think it's a great offense for him. Harvin and Kerley are going to be great in this offense b/c it's all predicated on quick throws to guys in open space that allows for YAC. Harvin, especially, will be dangerous in this offense. Hopefully he'll restructure. A kid like Amari Cooper is a perfect fit as well. Loving how this team is shaping up
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 10:41:38 GMT -5
Shotgun spread offense with nice easy reads. Similar to what Geno did at West Virginia so I think it's a great offense for him. Harvin and Kerley are going to be great in this offense b/c it's all predicated on quick throws to guys in open space that allows for YAC. Harvin, especially, will be dangerous in this offense. Hopefully he'll restructure. Yeah, but does anyone seriously want Geno Smith starting? Doesn't matter what everyone wants. The bottom line is that unless we land either Mariota or Winston in the draft, then we're going to be staring at someone like Geno Smith or Matt Moore behind center.
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