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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 14, 2015 12:30:05 GMT -5
I slept on it and now I like the Gailey move. Very experienced offensive coach and that's what a rookie HC in Bowles will need. I always liked bringing in Norv Turner and Gailey has similar production. He made Fitzpatrick look like a decent starter in Buffalo, and his spread offense translates well to our maligned young QB in Geno Smith.....like it or not he'll be around next season, and there's a significant chance he could start again. For those of you that like to dream, Gailey's offense suits another hot QB prospect: Marcus Mariotta. If for some reason he falls to 6 it's very likely Mac pulls the trigger and takes him. Gailey is not Schotty, far from Sporano, not MM, and there is not much better available at the moment as far as OCs go..... and... his last name is not Hackett, who would have been in Florham Park had Woody hired Marrone. What a disaster that would have been. So happy I didn't have to force myself to warm up to Maroon
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Post by Fishooked on Jan 14, 2015 12:33:02 GMT -5
There's limited choices available, we may not land any of them and we need to accept that. That's not really my point. My point is why would we want to cater our offense to a bust QB who acts as the 12th man for the opposing team's defense? That's why all this talk about "the offense suiting Geno" just seems really silly to me. The only thing that should be suiting Geno Smith right now is the waiver wire.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 14, 2015 12:33:21 GMT -5
There's limited choices available, we may not land any of them and we need to accept that. That's not really my point. My point is why would we want to cater our offense to a bust QB who acts as the 12th man for the opposing team's defense? That's why all this talk about "the offense suiting Geno" just seems really silly to me. The only thing that should be suiting Geno Smith right now is the waiver wire. We're not cutting Geno, he's young and cheap. He'll be on the roster, and depending on how the offseason plays out, he'll be in the convo to start. These are the facts, doesn't matter how we feel about him.... Bowles is not bringing in Gailey because he thinks he can repair Geno, he's bringing him in because he a wiley vet of a coach, and would have followed him where ever he went. Gailey's offense fitting Geno is merely coincidence....
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 12:33:22 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what everyone wants.The bottom line is that unless we land either Mariota or Winston in the draft, then we're going to be staring at someone like Geno Smith or Matt Moore behind center. Oh, well fuck me, why even bother having a site dedicated to discussing the team in the first place? LOL so who the hell do you want at QB next year if Mariota/Winston are off the table? C'mon...let's have a discussion about it.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Jan 14, 2015 12:48:19 GMT -5
Oh, well fuck me, why even bother having a site dedicated to discussing the team in the first place? LOL so who the hell do you want at QB next year if Mariota/Winston are off the table? C'mon...let's have a discussion about it. I'll play. My favorite QB not named Mariota is Bryce Petty. He'd sit for a year, and I'd sign a young vet to compete with Geno. How about Sam Bradford, or perhaps Ryan Mallet? Maybe call the Chiefs and ask about Tyler Bray.
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Post by McGinley on Jan 14, 2015 12:55:44 GMT -5
That's not really my point. My point is why would we want to cater our offense to a bust QB who acts as the 12th man for the opposing team's defense? That's why all this talk about "the offense suiting Geno" just seems really silly to me. The only thing that should be suiting Geno Smith right now is the waiver wire. We're not cutting Geno, he's young and cheap. He'll be on the roster, and depending on how the offseason plays out, he'll be in the convo to start. These are the facts, doesn't matter how we feel about him.... Bowles is not bringing in Gailey because he thinks he can repair Geno, he's bringing him in because he a wiley vet of a coach, and would have followed him where ever he went. Gailey's offense fitting Geno is merely coincidence.... No, I know we're not cutting Geno. I get it. I just don't like the idea of catering to a lost cause. That's what I'm saying. As far as replacements, I wouldn't mind seeing us with a Mike Glennon, Brian Hoyer, or maybe bringing back Vick. Simple fact of the matter is that Geno is a liability out there and should never be starting for us again. Just my opinion.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 12:59:49 GMT -5
LOL so who the hell do you want at QB next year if Mariota/Winston are off the table? C'mon...let's have a discussion about it. I'll play. My favorite QB not named Mariota is Bryce Petty. He'd sit for a year, and I'd sign a young vet to compete with Geno. How about Sam Bradford, or perhaps Ryan Mallet? Maybe call the Chiefs and ask about Tyler Bray. The Rams aren't getting rid of Bradford and there's a good chance that the Browns will retain Hoyer after Manziel looked totally incapable of playing QB in this league. I wouldn't be against a guy like Mallett if Houston let's him go, but you still don't just hand the starting QB position to a QB like Ryan Mallett. He would still be involved in a competition with Geno.
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Post by jetswin on Jan 14, 2015 13:05:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't be against a guy like Mallett if Houston let's him go, but you still don't just hand the starting QB position to a QB like Ryan Mallett. He would still be involved in a competition with Geno. I would not be surprised if it plays out this way
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Post by ryu79 on Jan 14, 2015 13:09:10 GMT -5
The interesting thing with the spread is that it actually opens the door to a more manageable transition for a lot of QBs.
Setting Geno aside (and I think the realistic POV here is that he will be on the roster and will compete for the role), Mariota will likely be there at 6 (frankly, he could be there at the bottom of rd 1 given how he is taking a pounding as folks spend more time studying his tape rather than the scorelines) and someone like Bryce Petty who can be had in later rounds. By adopting that system we reduce (not eliminate) the transition required to playing at the next level. Given the absence of quality FA QBs that are poachable - Gailey's preference of the prevalent system used in college is actually a nice bonus for us.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 14, 2015 13:09:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't be against a guy like Mallett if Houston let's him go, but you still don't just hand the starting QB position to a QB like Ryan Mallett. He would still be involved in a competition with Geno. I would not be surprised if it plays out this way It's the way that it's bound to play out if we don't walk away with one of the Top 2 QB's in the draft. The best of the FA crop at QB are guys like Matt Moore, Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Ryan Mallett, Jason Campbell, etc. None of those guys deserve to come in and be named the undisputed starter over Geno. I think ultimately the Jets will draft a WR like Cooper or Parker at the top of the draft and have Geno and a vet fight it out for the starting job.
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Post by Dirtstar on Jan 14, 2015 13:17:31 GMT -5
Gailey is a "meh" hire. not exciting, but definitely an experienced coach whose offense has proven effective even in the hands of mediocre (or worse) QB's.
we have pretty good playmakers on offense and Geno played pretty well at the end of the season. maybe it's something to build on, especially if the OL is fixed in the offseason.
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Post by silverback on Jan 14, 2015 13:37:47 GMT -5
Wasn't impressed with him coming aboard at first but I've warmed up to the idea of having him here as the coordinator. I think at first I dismissed him because of his days as a HC but quite honestly the guy is a damn good offensive coach. Kinda like Norv turner -- good coordinator bad head honcho.
Guy has more coaching experience than most players been alive which is going to be great for Bowles as a first time head coach. He's proven as a coordinator who's system is very effective everywhere he goes I mean the guy made Thigpen and Fitzpatrick look good. an Added benefit of having him and his system is that it's up to date with the current NFL, finally the Jets will possibly look competent on offense while keeping up with the century. I read somewhere that he was chip Kelly before chip Kelly.
I don't care that he's old and been out for 2 years, he's an old man who prob doesn't give a fuck who's had a successful coaching career longer than I've been on this earth. With the players the offense has this offense could finally put up points and finally develope a synergy between all the phases of the game in offense-defense-special teams.
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Post by cgjet on Jan 14, 2015 13:40:04 GMT -5
I'm not a Geno fan but he did show some flashes of figuring it out last season. It will be interesting to see what he does under Galey's offense. As mentioned in previous threads Galey has a track record of getting under achieving/mediocre QB's to perform. This will be the true make or break season for Geno and I believe he will get the season to prove it, none of this starting one week and on the bench the next. Either he gets it done or he is out or is a career back up somewhere.
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Post by nxyxjets on Jan 14, 2015 22:47:42 GMT -5
At first, I wasn't so thrilled with this hire but after reading some posts on here and articles, I'm coming around on this hire. The guy has a lot of experience.
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Post by vin on Jan 15, 2015 0:42:39 GMT -5
Guy got 3,000 yards and 22 TD's out of Tyler Thigpen in 11 games in KC The FACT that he got those types of numbers out of HIM(of all people) shows that he is capable of working miracles.
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