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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 23, 2020 22:26:30 GMT -5
^^^ Sam had a shitty year with a shitty coach. That doesn't tell me anything new.
Last season, with the same shitty coach, he fared much better (19 to 13 TD/INT ratio; Over 80+ overall QB rating; etc.). What was different? Oh that's right. He had JOSH McCOWN basically be the QB COACH AND QB WHISPERER that Gase Never was!!
That they won 7 games is a testament to Josh's Coaching Darnold.
So lets take a look at all three years.
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Post by vin on Dec 23, 2020 23:02:10 GMT -5
^^^ Sam had a shitty year with a shitty coach. That doesn't tell me anything new. Last season, with the same shitty coach, he fared much better (19 to 13 TD/INT ratio; Over 80+ overall QB rating; etc.). What was different? Oh that's right. He had JOSH McCOWN basically be the QB COACH AND QB WHISPERER that Gase Never was!! That they won 7 games is a testament to Josh's Coaching Darnold.
So lets take a look at all three years. Exactly what point are you trying to make here? I simply pointed out that he had a better year last season because he had SOMEONE who knew how to help him be QB in this league in McCown (once he left, there was no QB Whisperer because Gase NEVER WAS ONE TO BEGIN WITH!). But fine....Let's do it your way :
1st Year - Completed over 57% of his passes. Almost threw for 3000 yards his rookie season (2865). Had a TD/INT ratio that was ultimately positive (17 TDs / 15 INTs) with a 77.6 QB Rating(not excellent but still Solid)
2nd Year - Completed over 61% of his passes. Threw for over 3000 yards (3024). Showed some improvement in his TD/INT ratio (19 TDs to 13 INTs) with an 84.3 QB Rating.
This Year - Completed just under 60% (59.73) of his passes. He seems to be well on his way to throw for far fewer yards this season. His TD/INT ratio is abysmal this season along with a deserved 70.7 rating.
Conclusion : Sam had the worst season as a QB (in general) will EVER have this season. Oh and he's now hated because he prevented (seemingly) Trevor Lawrence from being a Jet.
(and now everyone is on Zach Wilson's nuts for some reason.)
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Post by vin on Dec 23, 2020 23:15:42 GMT -5
EDIT : BTW, I'd love to tweet back at that person who tweeted that out (but I can't) though I did find this : Couldn't have said it better.
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Post by RobR on Dec 23, 2020 23:24:13 GMT -5
EDIT : BTW, I'd love to tweet back at that person who tweeted that out (but I can't) though I did find this : Couldn't have said it better. Since Michael Edmundo said it, I take everything back. Sam is going to be great when we get a new coach, and new receivers, and better Olineman, better RB's, and some better TE's. Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds when everything, and I mean everything is pointing out that he's a bust? How much more statistical proof do you need?
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Post by RobR on Dec 23, 2020 23:28:06 GMT -5
So lets take a look at all three years. Exactly what point are you trying to make here? I simply pointed out that he had a better year last season because he had SOMEONE who knew how to help him be QB in this league in McCown (once he left, there was no QB Whisperer because Gase NEVER WAS ONE TO BEGIN WITH!). But fine....Let's do it your way :
1st Year - Completed over 57% of his passes. Almost threw for 3000 yards his rookie season (2865). Had a TD/INT ratio that was ultimately positive (17 TDs / 15 INTs) with a 77.6 QB Rating(not excellent but still Solid)
2nd Year - Completed over 61% of his passes. Threw for over 3000 yards (3024). Showed some improvement in his TD/INT ratio (19 TDs to 13 INTs) with an 84.3 QB Rating.
This Year - Completed just under 60% (59.73) of his passes. He seems to be well on his way to throw for far fewer yards this season. His TD/INT ratio is abysmal this season along with a deserved 70.7 rating.
Conclusion : Sam had the worst season as a QB (in general) will EVER have this season. Oh and he's now hated because he prevented (seemingly) Trevor Lawrence from being a Jet.
(and now everyone is on Zach Williams nuts for some reason.)
Exactly what point are you trying to make here? That Sam sucks by all statistical standings but your feelings go in a different direction.
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Post by vin on Dec 23, 2020 23:34:42 GMT -5
EDIT : BTW, I'd love to tweet back at that person who tweeted that out (but I can't) though I did find this : Couldn't have said it better. Since Michael Edmundo said it, I take everything back. Sam is going to be great when we get a new coach, and new receivers, and better Olineman, better RB's, and some better TE's. Do you realize how fucking stupid that sounds when everything, and I mean everything is pointing out that he's a bust? How much more statistical proof do you need?
And if someone from JetsXFactor.com tweets shit, it must be treated as the gospel as well.
This Edmundo person may not be a Co-host of a Podcast and Co-owner of a Website but he sure seems to have more common sense than you.
BTW :
"Sam is going to be great when we get a new coach, and new receivers, and better Olineman, better RB's, and some better TE's." - You
Isn't that what a QB needs to be successful?
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Post by vin on Dec 23, 2020 23:36:09 GMT -5
Exactly what point are you trying to make here? I simply pointed out that he had a better year last season because he had SOMEONE who knew how to help him be QB in this league in McCown (once he left, there was no QB Whisperer because Gase NEVER WAS ONE TO BEGIN WITH!). But fine....Let's do it your way :
1st Year - Completed over 57% of his passes. Almost threw for 3000 yards his rookie season (2865). Had a TD/INT ratio that was ultimately positive (17 TDs / 15 INTs) with a 77.6 QB Rating(not excellent but still Solid)
2nd Year - Completed over 61% of his passes. Threw for over 3000 yards (3024). Showed some improvement in his TD/INT ratio (19 TDs to 13 INTs) with an 84.3 QB Rating.
This Year - Completed just under 60% (59.73) of his passes. He seems to be well on his way to throw for far fewer yards this season. His TD/INT ratio is abysmal this season along with a deserved 70.7 rating.
Conclusion : Sam had the worst season as a QB (in general) will EVER have this season. Oh and he's now hated because he prevented (seemingly) Trevor Lawrence from being a Jet.
(and now everyone is on Zach Williams nuts for some reason.)
Exactly what point are you trying to make here? That Sam sucks by all statistical standings but your feelings go in a different direction.
I have nothing more to say to you.
(Merry Fucking Xmas)
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Post by RobR on Dec 23, 2020 23:41:27 GMT -5
Exactly what point are you trying to make here? That Sam sucks by all statistical standings but your feelings go in a different direction.
I have nothing more to say to you. Being delusional is not helping your case for Darnold succeeding, and posting his stats are making your case even worse. When you start thumping your chest because our third year QB just threw for 200 yards with one touchdown to lead his 0-13 team a victory it's time to take a step back.
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Post by vin on Dec 23, 2020 23:47:43 GMT -5
"This post is hidden" (for RobR) don't waste your time typing (I ain't gonna read your snarky shit anymore. This conversation is over. See ya.).
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Post by Big L on Dec 24, 2020 5:51:07 GMT -5
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Dec 24, 2020 7:53:49 GMT -5
I have nothing more to say to you. Being delusional is not helping your case for Darnold succeeding, and posting his stats are making your case even worse. When you start thumping your chest because our third year QB just threw for 200 yards with one touchdown to lead his 0-13 team a victory it's time to take a step back. You 2 should stop fighting. Don’t let a disgusting thing like the Jets ruin Xmas Eve. Besides, you’re both right - Darnold may have been good if he was drafted by a competent team that knew how to build a roster. But, he was unfortunately for him drafted by the worst run organization in American history. So, he sucks donkey dick and is on track to be one of the worst QBs in the NFL since those losers he’s surrounded with in that chart above. They blew the Lawrence pick because Gase is a smarmy Googley eyed scumbag. Cuomo, Deblasio and Adam Gase are the 3 most hated fucking cunts in NY. Now kiss and make up you guys. It’s Xmas eve. 🤗
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Post by vin on Dec 24, 2020 8:54:15 GMT -5
Good article and a fair one.
While it would be preferable to lose out the rest of the way, it's very doubtful that the Jags win another game (as I'm sure the Coaching Staff there is under orders to TANK the rest of the way).
So instead, see if that was indeed a blip on the radar or not.
Of course, it took Googley-Eyed Dickhead 13 games before he figured out it would be a good idea to get the ball out of Sam's hands quicker (which proves that the sooner Gase is gone, the better).
But we'll see in the next game.
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Post by vin on Dec 24, 2020 8:56:09 GMT -5
Being delusional is not helping your case for Darnold succeeding, and posting his stats are making your case even worse. When you start thumping your chest because our third year QB just threw for 200 yards with one touchdown to lead his 0-13 team a victory it's time to take a step back. You 2 should stop fighting. Don’t let a disgusting thing like the Jets ruin Xmas Eve. Besides, you’re both right - Darnold may have been good if he was drafted by a competent team that knew how to build a roster. But, he was unfortunately for him drafted by the worst run organization in American history. So, he sucks donkey dick and is on track to be one of the worst QBs in the NFL since those losers he’s surrounded with in that chart above. They blew the Lawrence pick because Gase is a smarmy Googley eyed scumbag. Cuomo, Deblasio and Adam Gase are the 3 most hated fucking cunts in NY. Now kiss and make up you guys. It’s Xmas eve. 🤗
Rep. I'm done speaking to that dickhead.
The only thing he can kiss is my ass.
Merry Christmas to you, though.
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 24, 2020 13:06:43 GMT -5
So lets take a look at all three years. Exactly what point are you trying to make here? I simply pointed out that he had a better year last season because he had SOMEONE who knew how to help him be QB in this league in McCown (once he left, there was no QB Whisperer because Gase NEVER WAS ONE TO BEGIN WITH!). But fine....Let's do it your way :
1st Year - Completed over 57% of his passes. Almost threw for 3000 yards his rookie season (2865). Had a TD/INT ratio that was ultimately positive (17 TDs / 15 INTs) with a 77.6 QB Rating(not excellent but still Solid)
2nd Year - Completed over 61% of his passes. Threw for over 3000 yards (3024). Showed some improvement in his TD/INT ratio (19 TDs to 13 INTs) with an 84.3 QB Rating.
This Year - Completed just under 60% (59.73) of his passes. He seems to be well on his way to throw for far fewer yards this season. His TD/INT ratio is abysmal this season along with a deserved 70.7 rating.
Conclusion : Sam had the worst season as a QB (in general) will EVER have this season. Oh and he's now hated because he prevented (seemingly) Trevor Lawrence from being a Jet.
(and now everyone is on Zach Wilson's nuts for some reason.)
The point Im trying to make is that based on history he is much more likely than not going to stay a scrub. Thus, we are wasting our time in my opinion. vin, I was as big a Sam supporter as anybody. I've seen enough. And yes, I was already counting my chickens with Lawrence and the fact that Sam decided to have an average game cost me that so I am more upset than usual.
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Post by RobR on Dec 24, 2020 23:20:01 GMT -5
Being delusional is not helping your case for Darnold succeeding, and posting his stats are making your case even worse. When you start thumping your chest because our third year QB just threw for 200 yards with one touchdown to lead his 0-13 team a victory it's time to take a step back. You 2 should stop fighting. Don’t let a disgusting thing like the Jets ruin Xmas Eve. Besides, you’re both right - Darnold may have been good if he was drafted by a competent team that knew how to build a roster. But, he was unfortunately for him drafted by the worst run organization in American history. So, he sucks donkey dick and is on track to be one of the worst QBs in the NFL since those losers he’s surrounded with in that chart above. They blew the Lawrence pick because Gase is a smarmy Googley eyed scumbag. Cuomo, Deblasio and Adam Gase are the 3 most hated fucking cunts in NY. Now kiss and make up you guys. It’s Xmas eve. 🤗 Nah. When that delusional homer goes on his ridiculous rants, I have no problems poking back, especially when he started the animosity. He's a super sensitive pussy wearing hat that wails away when someone doesn't agree with him or it. The fact that he puts one of the ten posters on this site on ignore is beyond laughable. I just hope I haven't hurt his feelings to a degree that it is beyond repair.
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