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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 16, 2015 22:13:28 GMT -5
Sound like you are one of them who want to blame Rex for every last thing which is silly. Read "Collision Low Crossers". Rex had a HUGE input into our drafts and the results speak for themselves. Remember when Rex worked out Coples personally and put him through OLB drills? Then he told Coples that we would draft him if available about a month before the draft? Rex had way too much influence in the selection of players and if you think he had no clue about McDougle you're just slurping up the beatwriters shit, something you normally rail against. That was Tanny era. Given the way Idzik felt about Rex, I don't think he was taking much draft/player selection advice from him.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 16, 2015 22:15:59 GMT -5
For me it was when DRC left the building, walked across the street, and got paid. At that point I realized Idzik was in over his head. The Jets had muffed signing a corner and it was painfully obvious that he couldn't manage a roster to save his life.
By the time the draft rolled around and I heard Pryor's name called - I was 100% on the "RIP HIS FUCKIN' HEAD OFF" wagon.
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Post by RobR on Jan 16, 2015 22:18:01 GMT -5
Read "Collision Low Crossers". Rex had a HUGE input into our drafts and the results speak for themselves. Remember when Rex worked out Coples personally and put him through OLB drills? Then he told Coples that we would draft him if available about a month before the draft? Rex had way too much influence in the selection of players and if you think he had no clue about McDougle you're just slurping up the beatwriters shit, something you normally rail against. That was Tanny era. Given the way Idzik felt about Rex, I don't think he was taking much draft/player selection advice from him. We did draft an in the box safety that is slow, undersized, and underwhelmed in college...... but he could hit. I think Rex had more control than you think during both regimes.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 16, 2015 22:28:57 GMT -5
That was Tanny era. Given the way Idzik felt about Rex, I don't think he was taking much draft/player selection advice from him. We did draft an in the box safety that is slow, undersized, and underwhelmed in college...... but he could hit. I think Rex had more control than you think during both regimes. Well it doesn't fit with Idzik trying to get rid of Rex, but I guess we'll never know for sure
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Post by RobR on Jan 16, 2015 22:37:16 GMT -5
We did draft an in the box safety that is slow, undersized, and underwhelmed in college...... but he could hit. I think Rex had more control than you think during both regimes. Well it doesn't fit with Idzik trying to get rid of Rex, but I guess we'll never know for sure Why does it have to be Idzik wanting too rid himself of Rex? It is quite possible that they were both incompetent when it came to the draft and relied on our shitty scouts that we just fired. Idzik was terrible in every way possible, but this roster has Rexs' fingerprints all over it. I'm happy he went to a division rival.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 16, 2015 22:43:01 GMT -5
Well it doesn't fit with Idzik trying to get rid of Rex, but I guess we'll never know for sure Why does it have to be Idzik wanting too rid himself of Rex? It is quite possible that they were both incompetent when it came to the draft and relied on our shitty scouts that we just fired. Idzik was terrible in every way possible, but this roster has Rexs' fingerprints all over it. I'm happy he went to a division rival. I think he wanted Rex out and his own guy in (whoever that was). I think he thought Rex would bomb in year one with the horrible roster, was responsible for Sanchez getting hurt, but his plan went awry when Rex went 8-8 and finished up the season with some great wins. I don't think he drafted players that would help with that goal but he certainly didn't cater to Rex's need for man corners. That was a whole lot of money he left on the table. If Rex had his way we'd have had Cromartie and Revis on the team. Rex was very vocal about not having the right players he needed and made veiled references to Idzik screwing him early on
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Post by kreissage on Jan 16, 2015 22:47:04 GMT -5
His first draft pick. In an offensive-driven league, with the 9th overall pick, he takes a CB in Milliner that was INJURED on the day we drafted him. Just absurd. People keep talking about Idzik's disastrous 2014 draft (which they loved at the time), but the 2013 was sooo fricking bad. Drafting Richardson doesn't make up for that huge whiff at 9th overall, and all the shitty picks afterwards. I'm excited about the future, love our new GM and coach, but damn, I want to punch Idzik in the face for these past two drafts. They set us back years.
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Post by jets19 on Jan 16, 2015 22:58:33 GMT -5
Blair Thomas
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Post by Hollywood Nosebleed on Jan 16, 2015 23:02:10 GMT -5
We did draft an in the box safety that is slow, undersized, and underwhelmed in college...... but he could hit. I think Rex had more control than you think during both regimes. Well it doesn't fit with Idzik trying to get rid of Rex, but I guess we'll never know for sure I don't think he was trying to sandbag Rex. The guy was just an idiot and way over his head. He was set in his ways and couldn't adapt. Once one thing went wrong it all snowballed on him and he couldn't stop it.
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Post by morite on Jan 16, 2015 23:07:40 GMT -5
Well it doesn't fit with Idzik trying to get rid of Rex, but I guess we'll never know for sure Why does it have to be Idzik wanting too rid himself of Rex? It is quite possible that they were both incompetent when it came to the draft and relied on our shitty scouts that we just fired. Idzik was terrible in every way possible, but this roster has Rexs' fingerprints all over it. I'm happy he went to a division rival. He either was in the room and helping make the decisions, or sat there, didn't say a word and went along with it. Sorry, Rex. You are just as much to blame. Good luck fucking up that team in Buffalo. I feel bad, but not too bad. They made their own bed...
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Post by Hotman on Jan 16, 2015 23:22:54 GMT -5
Sound like you are one of them who want to blame Rex for every last thing which is silly. Read "Collision Low Crossers". Rex had a HUGE input into our drafts and the results speak for themselves. Remember when Rex worked out Coples personally and put him through OLB drills? Then he told Coples that we would draft him if available about a month before the draft? Rex had way too much influence in the selection of players and if you think he had no clue about McDougle you're just slurping up the beatwriters shit, something you normally rail against. I am SPECIFICALLY talkin bout McDougie... Rex did not know shit about the dude, he said so himself. It was one of the DB coach choices... It's been thoroghly documented bro. The guy even talked to McDougie on the phone during the draft... So yeah.
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Post by DowNY on Jan 17, 2015 0:34:07 GMT -5
The moment I seen his face.
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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Jan 17, 2015 1:29:19 GMT -5
I couldn't judge his draft as dex,and Shaq got hurt...thought they would be players at least. Saw shit goin wrong..thought is was just bad luck season. BUT..when we were sucking bad about halfway through..he just let the roster hanging. I could tell rex was pissed and new we had no chance. Was just towing company line.. Pretty painful shit...i actually stopped watching for a few games.
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Post by Aussie Jet on Jan 17, 2015 1:38:28 GMT -5
Not defending Idzik, but I've noticed quite a few posts about how he had 12 picks in the draft. From memory, quite a few of those picks were compensatory picks which (I understand) could not be traded by the Jets. It was also reported that he tried to make a trade to move up in the draft to take Marqise Lee but couldn't agree terms with the other team (the Bucs, from memory?) and the Jaguars sealed that deal. Lee has been average at best so far (though to be fair to him he's in Jacksonville and playing with Blake Bortles).
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Post by GreenBloodBlitz on Jan 17, 2015 1:40:55 GMT -5
Oh yea...ive missed about two games since the 96 season..when they benched Geno..that was it. I cant support mike vick. He's a piece o shit! And I hate dogs! I looked him in the eye at camp...smug mother..didnt give a shit about our team
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