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Post by rexneffect on Jan 22, 2015 11:17:27 GMT -5
Romo is also very uneven. He either sucks for three quarters and then stages a comeback or he plays well for three quarters and then melts down in the fourth. His whole time in Dallas has delivered the team mediocrity. Any time they have made it to the playoffs it is because somebody else put the team on their back and carried them through enough shitty division rival games. Maybe Lee only knows how to coach a QB into inconsistent play. Romo is a top 10 QB in this league. You can argue he is top 5. He is usually great the whole game and then makes a bonehead play in a critical situation. Still, his stats are awesome and I would love to have him as our QB. Lee is a good QB coach. Geno is a crappy QB. Plain and simple. Folks need to stop blaming the coaches. Its the players who suck Romo looks great on paper. He's not that great of a QB. Dallas has always given Romo great offensive weapons to work with. That's why he has good stats. In Romo's tenure they have had three seasons better than 9-7 and each year they had a stacked offense. It's basically like saying Sanchez was a top 10 QB in 2010.
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Jan 22, 2015 11:28:03 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken, Geno was a top rated QB for the last month of the 2013 season as well. If that's the case, he's shown ability but has done it when the pressure was off in meaningless December games when the Jets were out of it (although they may have still been alive early Dec 2013). Maybe some truth here. But aren't you at least a little curious to see if someone can work with him and make those late-season performances the norm instead of the exception? Without a doubt. I still think there's hope for Geno and hope that the new staff can coach him up and correct some of the recurring issues (mental and physical).
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Post by Paradis on Jan 22, 2015 11:29:26 GMT -5
Still think Geno could develop into something. He showed me flashes. It's up to chan now to right that boat.
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Post by kennyo7 on Jan 22, 2015 12:57:23 GMT -5
Romo is a top 10 QB in this league. You can argue he is top 5. He is usually great the whole game and then makes a bonehead play in a critical situation. Still, his stats are awesome and I would love to have him as our QB. Lee is a good QB coach. Geno is a crappy QB. Plain and simple. Folks need to stop blaming the coaches. Its the players who suck It was Parcells who found Romo and made him the QB he is today not Lee. Also this thread is about Lee being unprofessional in dressing down a QB who should of sat out as a rookie to learn the mental part of the game. Geno was doomed to fail to begin with because of shitty coaching. Parcells found Romo but Lee was his QB coach under Parcells. Geno was doomed to fail because he doesnt have the mental ability to play QB in the pros. He has a great arm and is athletic but he cant read defenses and stares down receivers. His game is predictable and D-coordinators salivate playing against him for this reason. Geno looks good only against bad teams with bad defenses
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Post by joepnyj1 on Jan 22, 2015 13:05:58 GMT -5
It was Parcells who found Romo and made him the QB he is today not Lee. Also this thread is about Lee being unprofessional in dressing down a QB who should of sat out as a rookie to learn the mental part of the game. Geno was doomed to fail to begin with because of shitty coaching. Parcells found Romo but Lee was his QB coach under Parcells. Geno was doomed to fail because he doesnt have the mental ability to play QB in the pros. He has a great arm and is athletic but he cant read defenses and stares down receivers. His game is predictable and D-coordinators salivate playing against him for this reason. Geno looks good only against bad teams with bad defenses Totally disagree but your entitled to your opinion. I really think Geno with the right coaching can turn things around.
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Post by postum on Jan 22, 2015 13:07:21 GMT -5
Last 5 games? So starting with that incredible QB performance against Miami where he completed 5? Passes?
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Post by morite on Jan 22, 2015 13:13:32 GMT -5
What did Lee say that is inaccurate? Geno is a horrible QB. Bottom five in the league ,for sure. But you can argue that he has potential if you look solely at a slim sample of games toward the end of last season. It's a pretty even-handed assessment. Maybe shit like this will motivate Geno to be a better player. The biggest problem with the Jets organization over the years is blowing smoke up the ass of young players - in particular QBs. Sanchez and Geno were given passes by Rex and the staff all the time. This over-inflated expectations and made them feel they could do no wrong, despite evidence to the contrary. Now that Lee is on another team, he has no obligation to hide his true feelings about Geno's horrible play. I'd be curious to pick his brain on Sanchez, as well. If Geno is our starting QB and plays very well this year (not counting on it, but...let's supposed for a second), will Lee make a statement at the end of the season that Dorrell (or whoever is our QB coach) was a better coach and got more out of him? Of course not. Why would he, since that would not serve to better his position?
He, and all other coaches like him in this league, should shut their fucking mouths, refrain from burning bridges, and move on. It adds no value, helps no one, by doing that. It makes them look bitter, immature and unprofessional
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Post by morite on Jan 22, 2015 13:13:54 GMT -5
What did Lee say that is inaccurate? Geno is a horrible QB. Bottom five in the league ,for sure. But you can argue that he has potential if you look solely at a slim sample of games toward the end of last season. It's a pretty even-handed assessment. Maybe shit like this will motivate Geno to be a better player. The biggest problem with the Jets organization over the years is blowing smoke up the ass of young players - in particular QBs. Sanchez and Geno were given passes by Rex and the staff all the time. This over-inflated expectations and made them feel they could do no wrong, despite evidence to the contrary. Now that Lee is on another team, he has no obligation to hide his true feelings about Geno's horrible play. I'd be curious to pick his brain on Sanchez, as well. Posted twice for some reason...sorry 'bout that. <DELETE>
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Post by vicmill on Jan 22, 2015 14:50:27 GMT -5
Romo is a top 10 QB in this league. You can argue he is top 5. He is usually great the whole game and then makes a bonehead play in a critical situation. Still, his stats are awesome and I would love to have him as our QB. Lee is a good QB coach. Geno is a crappy QB. Plain and simple. Folks need to stop blaming the coaches. Its the players who suck It was Parcells who found Romo and made him the QB he is today not Lee. Also this thread is about Lee being unprofessional in dressing down a QB who should of sat out as a rookie to learn the mental part of the game. Geno was doomed to fail to begin with because of shitty coaching. Absolutely correct!!!!! If you asked Bob Vila to build a house when he was 23 years old, he probably would have struggled. 20 years later with a lot of experience and probably some good mentors along the way, he excelled at it. At 23, he probably made stupid mistakes due to his immatrurity and lack of experience. I don't know if geno is going to be an above average QB in this league or not, but it is ridiculous to judge him in his first couple of years during which he lacked expereince and had lousy coaching, just because Andrew Luck and Russel Wilson were freaks of nature.
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Post by joepnyj1 on Jan 22, 2015 14:53:38 GMT -5
It was Parcells who found Romo and made him the QB he is today not Lee. Also this thread is about Lee being unprofessional in dressing down a QB who should of sat out as a rookie to learn the mental part of the game. Geno was doomed to fail to begin with because of shitty coaching. Absolutely correct!!!!! If you asked Bob Vila to build a house when he was 23 years old, he probably would have struggled. 20 years later with a lot of experience and probably some good mentors along the way, he excelled at it. At 23, he probably made stupid mistakes due to his immatrurity and lack of experience. I don't know if geno is going to be an above average QB in this league or not, but it is ridiculous to judge him in his first couple of years during which he lacked expereince and had lousy coaching, just because Andrew Luck and Russel Wilson were freaks of nature. Rep point for you sir.
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Post by rexneffect on Jan 22, 2015 15:16:19 GMT -5
It was Parcells who found Romo and made him the QB he is today not Lee. Also this thread is about Lee being unprofessional in dressing down a QB who should of sat out as a rookie to learn the mental part of the game. Geno was doomed to fail to begin with because of shitty coaching. Absolutely correct!!!!! If you asked Bob Vila to build a house when he was 23 years old, he probably would have struggled. 20 years later with a lot of experience and probably some good mentors along the way, he excelled at it. At 23, he probably made stupid mistakes due to his immatrurity and lack of experience. I don't know if geno is going to be an above average QB in this league or not, but it is ridiculous to judge him in his first couple of years during which he lacked expereince and had lousy coaching, just because Andrew Luck and Russel Wilson were freaks of nature. But 23 year old Bob Vila wasn't being paid on a multimillion dollar contract in a highly competitive field for doing something he's been doing day in and day out since he was a kid. Plus, I feel pretty confident that 23 year old Bob Vila could use a watch effectively. How long do we wait to see if he develops into a serviceable QB? Sure he played well the last few games of this season when the games had no effect on us or our opponents and we were rushing far more than passing. He did the same thing the first year and got considerably worse. You want to sit him for a couple years as a back up, fine. I can't see a good argument for letting him drag us down another couple years to see if he maybe develops. I don't think Geno can even be an average QB in this league. Forget above average.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 15:21:42 GMT -5
I'm sure Lee will do much better with whatever QB the Bills wind up with. It's always hard to know where the responsibility lies, but I think Lee is probably at least partly to blame for Geno's stinkiness. Link: leeI can take Lee's comments without killing him. That said, DLee had no real answers, eh? Good luck to EJ Montanuel. Manuel.
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Post by vicmill on Jan 22, 2015 15:26:41 GMT -5
Absolutely correct!!!!! If you asked Bob Vila to build a house when he was 23 years old, he probably would have struggled. 20 years later with a lot of experience and probably some good mentors along the way, he excelled at it. At 23, he probably made stupid mistakes due to his immatrurity and lack of experience. I don't know if geno is going to be an above average QB in this league or not, but it is ridiculous to judge him in his first couple of years during which he lacked expereince and had lousy coaching, just because Andrew Luck and Russel Wilson were freaks of nature. But 23 year old Bob Vila wasn't being paid on a multimillion dollar contract in a highly competitive field for doing something he's been doing day in and day out since he was a kid. Plus, I feel pretty confident that 23 year old Bob Vila could use a watch effectively. How long do we wait to see if he develops into a serviceable QB? Sure he played well the last few games of this season when the games had no effect on us or our opponents and we were rushing far more than passing. He did the same thing the first year and got considerably worse. You want to sit him for a couple years as a back up, fine. I can't see a good argument for letting him drag us down another couple years to see if he maybe develops. I don't think Geno can even be an average QB in this league. Forget above average. If the Head Coach is going to cultivate an environment where being late is tolerated, than 23 year old kids on going to take advantage of it. You either tolerate that behavior or you don't and that's what sets the culture for the organization. You might be right and he will never be average. You may have seen enough, but good thing you weren't the calling the shots when Elway and Manning were setting records for interceptions during their rookie years or Steve Young was stinking up the joint in TB (maybe you were calling the shots?) when he was older than Geno. I'm just not ready to draw any conclusions yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 15:27:55 GMT -5
Absolutely correct!!!!! If you asked Bob Vila to build a house when he was 23 years old, he probably would have struggled. 20 years later with a lot of experience and probably some good mentors along the way, he excelled at it. At 23, he probably made stupid mistakes due to his immatrurity and lack of experience. I don't know if geno is going to be an above average QB in this league or not, but it is ridiculous to judge him in his first couple of years during which he lacked expereince and had lousy coaching, just because Andrew Luck and Russel Wilson were freaks of nature. But 23 year old Bob Vila wasn't being paid on a multimillion dollar contract in a highly competitive field for doing something he's been doing day in and day out since he was a kid. I don't think Geno can even be an average QB in this league. Forget above average. It's obvious that he plays better with less pressure. I hope that Geno and the FO/CS can raise his pressure threshold; get him calmed down for consistent performance.
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Post by morite on Jan 22, 2015 15:38:17 GMT -5
Pot meat? Meat kettle?
ROFLMAO. I spit a pretzel clear across the room. This site gets me at least once a day.
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