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Post by McGinley on Mar 18, 2015 20:17:41 GMT -5
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Post by joepnyj1 on Mar 18, 2015 20:22:28 GMT -5
Yeah that is def a team friendly contract. Hope we sign Denarius Moore and Dede Latimore next for some depth.
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Post by jcappy on Mar 18, 2015 20:28:55 GMT -5
Do we know Cro's breakdown yet? Spotrac has us at $11mil ($16.5mil before rookies) before factoring Cro in - either way we still have plenty of wiggle room to make some moves.
All praise the Mac Daddy.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 18, 2015 20:56:13 GMT -5
Glad to hear it but Cro's and Harri's deals were no bargain, and Revis's is astronomical.
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Post by McGinley on Mar 18, 2015 21:17:35 GMT -5
Glad to hear it but Cro's and Harri's deals were no bargain, and Revis's is astronomical. Harris's deal wasn't ideal, I agree, but what did you think Revis was going to get paid? I haven't even seen details for Cro's contract, so I can't say much about it.
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Post by astoria on Mar 18, 2015 21:44:41 GMT -5
I'm confused where that Ravens Insider is getting 8.5 GTD. The bonus is GTD (2.5) plus first year (1), so that's 3.5.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 18, 2015 21:48:14 GMT -5
Glad to hear it but Cro's and Harri's deals were no bargain, and Revis's is astronomical. Harris's deal wasn't ideal, I agree, but what did you think Revis was going to get paid? I haven't even seen details for Cro's contract, so I can't say much about it. If you want good players, you have to pay for them. Even the cheaters have to pay to keep them.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 18, 2015 22:26:27 GMT -5
I'm confused where that Ravens Insider is getting 8.5 GTD. The bonus is GTD (2.5) plus first year (1), so that's 3.5. P Maybe there's more guaranteed than just the this year's salary. I'm not seeing how it adds up to 22M either
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 18, 2015 22:32:08 GMT -5
Glad to hear it but Cro's and Harri's deals were no bargain, and Revis's is astronomical. Harris's deal wasn't ideal, I agree, but what did you think Revis was going to get paid? I haven't even seen details for Cro's contract, so I can't say much about it. Eh, I'm just not crazy about 25% of the cap going into one player (something like that was said somewhere) plus so much resources poured into one unit, the secondary. I'd rather have it spread around more. It's doubtful the shortcomings can be filled with starters from the draft. Revis is getting QB money and he will cover half the field, half the time. I know everyone is thrilled with Revis's return, I'm not one of those people. Not at his price. And I think the guarantee over how many years is very optimistic and really taking a bet on him staying healthy. Yeah someone was going to pay it, I don't think it had to be us. Cro got a hefty sum too, though obviously far less than Revis. And now there are actually rumors about franchise QB's possibly hitting the market and we're out of the running before it even started.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 18, 2015 22:33:09 GMT -5
Harris's deal wasn't ideal, I agree, but what did you think Revis was going to get paid? I haven't even seen details for Cro's contract, so I can't say much about it. If you want good players, you have to pay for them. Even the cheaters have to pay to keep them. Yeah. LIke a QB.
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 18, 2015 22:46:42 GMT -5
If you want good players, you have to pay for them. Even the cheaters have to pay to keep them. Yeah. LIke a QB. I look forward to having that problem.
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Post by JetBidi on Mar 18, 2015 22:58:36 GMT -5
Harris's deal wasn't ideal, I agree, but what did you think Revis was going to get paid? I haven't even seen details for Cro's contract, so I can't say much about it. Eh, I'm just not crazy about 25% of the cap going into one player (something like that was said somewhere) plus so much resources poured into one unit, the secondary. I'd rather have it spread around more. It's doubtful the shortcomings can be filled with starters from the draft. Revis is getting QB money and he will cover half the field, half the time. I know everyone is thrilled with Revis's return, I'm not one of those people. Not at his price. And I think the guarantee over how many years is very optimistic and really taking a bet on him staying healthy. Yeah someone was going to pay it, I don't think it had to be us. Cro got a hefty some too, though obviously far less than Revis. And now there are actually rumors about franchise QB's possibly hitting the market and we're out of the running before it even started. I said that, but it was in reference to available cap in free agency. $16M/$58M = $27.5% of the available cap. He makes up $16M/$143M = 11.2% of the overall salary cap. I agree with your points about investing so much into one player and one unit. This year was strange because we had to spend roughly $141M of the $143M cap to stay in compliance with the 89% rule. We had to spend the money somewhere and clearly had holes in the secondary. We could've re-signed Wilkerson with some of that money, but that should be the priority next year when we'll have to spend around $141M (or more if the cap goes up as expected) to be in compliance again.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Mar 18, 2015 23:05:54 GMT -5
Harris's deal wasn't ideal, I agree, but what did you think Revis was going to get paid? I haven't even seen details for Cro's contract, so I can't say much about it. Eh, I'm just not crazy about 25% of the cap going into one player (something like that was said somewhere) plus so much resources poured into one unit, the secondary. I'd rather have it spread around more. It's doubtful the shortcomings can be filled with starters from the draft. Revis is getting QB money and he will cover half the field, half the time. I know everyone is thrilled with Revis's return, I'm not one of those people. Not at his price. And I think the guarantee over how many years is very optimistic and really taking a bet on him staying healthy. Yeah someone was going to pay it, I don't think it had to be us. Cro got a hefty sum too, though obviously far less than Revis. And now there are actually rumors about franchise QB's possibly hitting the market and we're out of the running before it even started. No one has 25% of the cap. The cap is 141 mil. No one counts over 35 mil per. You ou want to improve the team, you need players good players. Money make money. Big money. Who cares anyway, we're still comfortably under the cap.
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Post by McGinley on Mar 18, 2015 23:17:05 GMT -5
If you want good players, you have to pay for them. Even the cheaters have to pay to keep them. Yeah. LIke a QB. Oh, prime Sparklepony and Russell Wilson are sitting at home waiting for us to call? I didn't know that. Look, I'd love to have the problem of "ok, we're paying our franchise QB a bunch of money, how do we keep these other guys", but we don't have a franchise QB, so that point is completely and utterly moot. But, I'll play along. Say we somehow walk away with Winston or Mariota and they turn into our franchise QB. Well, we would have 4 years before we have to pay them real money, and guys like Revis are likely going to be off the roster by then. So, unless you see a franchise QB on our roster with a contract coming up, I really fail to see why paying these other guys hurts us at all, especially when most of that money - money we NEED to spend - is being paid up front in the early years of their contracts.
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Post by Hotman on Mar 19, 2015 3:00:30 GMT -5
If you want good players, you have to pay for them. Even the cheaters have to pay to keep them. Yeah. LIke a QB. There's no doubt in my mind we will pay a QB good money as soon as we find a good one.
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