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Post by rangerous on Apr 1, 2015 5:54:30 GMT -5
I enjoyed Rex's time with us (especially the first two years), but now that he's a Bill, fuggim...I hope we stomp a mudhole in their asses twice a season and they beat up in the rest of the AFCE the other four games. I too feel that he got a raw deal when Idzik arrived, but his act was starting to wear thin as it was. yep. bowles is the coach now and rex is history. it's time to move on and support bowles. and here's to hopin rex can stomp brady and the patsies twice each season.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 1, 2015 6:51:57 GMT -5
He comes off as a total jackass More of a fan than a coach. And more interested in being buddy-buddy with his players instead of being respected. It's all hot air Why people still fall for it, I have no idea. He comes off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. You're seriously umderestimating Rex if you believe his p,ayers don't respect him. theres nothing to fall for, he is what he is, he's real and the players love it Herm came off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. Who gives a shit? Yeah, I'm sure everyone would love playing for a coach who absolves you of blame, constantly Flats* you on the back and takes you out to Dave and Buster's for pizza and videogames after a win like a fucking little league coach.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 1, 2015 7:06:34 GMT -5
He comes off as a total jackass More of a fan than a coach. And more interested in being buddy-buddy with his players instead of being respected. It's all hot air Why people still fall for it, I have no idea. Not sure how you can't admit that he's a pretty damn good coach. Yes, he's a goof of a personality and will never win a Nobel Prize for literature, but he took the Jets as far as any coach except Weeb, never had a QB in the Top 20 of the league and was sabotaged by his GM at the end. Bowles will now benefit from an ownership/GM situation that is attempting to right the wrong they know they dealt Rex. I've moved on. The only success I wish Rex is off the field while he's with Buffalo. But there's no reason to trash the guy. I wish people recognized that Rex's coaching should be parsed out from his personality. The facts are that he is a loud, boastful guy who isn't a sophisticated communicator....and who is also one of the NFL's great defensive minds and a great motivator as a head coach. And if Doug Brien makes one of those late FG's 10 years ago in Pittsburgh...then Herm Edwards would've also taken the Jets as far as any coach since Weeb. And that was with a QB who had his right arm dangling by a thread. Doesn't mean that I consider Herm some kind of great coach. He was an inept jackass the same as Rex. Not to mention that in those two AFC Championship games under Rex, it was his much vaunted defense that was the primary culprit in both losses. He's a horrible gameday coach. His teams routinely look flat and unprepared (especially coming off a bye week or a big win). And his offensive philosophy comes straight out of the fucking stone age. He's a glorified DC masquerading as a HC. Period. Buffalo didn't hire him because they think he's a great coach. They hired him because he's a personality that will make them somewhat relevant again. Even as they continue to lose. He's a jackass. He supposedly had the Atlanta job in the palm of his hand...and then proceeds to go to Buffalo for an identical situation to the one that he was just fired from. The Jets are coming off 4 straight seasons without making the playoffs yet everyone wants to put that squarely on Tanny and Idzik. Seemingly absolving the HEAD COACH of everything.
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Post by RageATL on Apr 1, 2015 7:52:07 GMT -5
Funniest part about all of this is that if it wasn't for Idzik's penny pinching to get us out of cap hell and well below the cap with plenty of money to spend, we wouldn't have been able to assemble the team we currently have on paper.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 1, 2015 8:58:20 GMT -5
Not sure how you can't admit that he's a pretty damn good coach. Yes, he's a goof of a personality and will never win a Nobel Prize for literature, but he took the Jets as far as any coach except Weeb, never had a QB in the Top 20 of the league and was sabotaged by his GM at the end. Bowles will now benefit from an ownership/GM situation that is attempting to right the wrong they know they dealt Rex. I've moved on. The only success I wish Rex is off the field while he's with Buffalo. But there's no reason to trash the guy. I wish people recognized that Rex's coaching should be parsed out from his personality. The facts are that he is a loud, boastful guy who isn't a sophisticated communicator....and who is also one of the NFL's great defensive minds and a great motivator as a head coach. And if Doug Brien makes one of those late FG's 10 years ago in Pittsburgh...then Herm Edwards would've also taken the Jets as far as any coach since Weeb. And that was with a QB who had his right arm dangling by a thread. Doesn't mean that I consider Herm some kind of great coach. He was an inept jackass the same as Rex. Not to mention that in those two AFC Championship games under Rex, it was his much vaunted defense that was the primary culprit in both losses. He's a horrible gameday coach. His teams routinely look flat and unprepared (especially coming off a bye week or a big win). And his offensive philosophy comes straight out of the fucking stone age. He's a glorified DC masquerading as a HC. Period. Buffalo didn't hire him because they think he's a great coach. They hired him because he's a personality that will make them somewhat relevant again. Even as they continue to lose. He's a jackass. He supposedly had the Atlanta job in the palm of his hand...and then proceeds to go to Buffalo for an identical situation to the one that he was just fired from. The Jets are coming off 4 straight seasons without making the playoffs yet everyone wants to put that squarely on Tanny and Idzik. Seemingly absolving the HEAD COACH of everything.
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Post by JonEJet on Apr 1, 2015 9:13:13 GMT -5
When Rex and his Bills make a strong run this year.....stronger than the Jets (sorry, but the Jills are better than us on both sides of the ball) will people here give Rex any credit whatsoever?
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 1, 2015 9:17:14 GMT -5
He comes off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. You're seriously umderestimating Rex if you believe his p,ayers don't respect him. theres nothing to fall for, he is what he is, he's real and the players love it He's real? I listened to 6 or however many years of manufactured bravado and I'm supposed to believe Rex is real? Please. There is also a huge difference between being liked by players and respected. I have no doubt players like Rex. All he does is stroke their egos and tell them how good they are, even if they are dog shit. Of course they like them, I bet a portion don't respect him though. This is Rex. You didn't listen closely, players repeatedly said he was real and he's one of them. I get people don't like, especially because he's gone. He has issues as a HC but how his players perceive him isn't close to being one of them. as for respect, players have said the respect him. Others have said he's respeced. And you have no proof that they didn't other than to state the obvious that is not the same thing. You don't know that anyone didn't. Just as you have no idea how players where treated behind close doors, just Rex going to bat for his players every time he stepped to the podium. Something you have to know players respected him for
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 1, 2015 9:22:47 GMT -5
He comes off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. You're seriously umderestimating Rex if you believe his p,ayers don't respect him. theres nothing to fall for, he is what he is, he's real and the players love it Herm came off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. Who gives a shit? Yeah, I'm sure everyone would love playing for a coach who absolves you of blame, constantly Flats* you on the back and takes you out to Dave and Buster's for pizza and videogames after a win like a fucking little league coach. Players loved playing under Rex. Every year he's near or at the top of the list of HCs that players want to play for. Don't remember all this Herm love. He was players coach but don't remember hearing about all the love that Rex got. Right down to his last one year reprieve and the cheers in the locker.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 1, 2015 9:27:07 GMT -5
And let's not forget Rex's physiological tactics to buy himself time with the fans, he's such a transparent fraud, he thinks you can't see him trying to pull the wool.
"LOOKIE, LOOKIE, LOOKIE, HERE COMES COOKIE!
Walking around a league meeting in a Bills jersey so the fans think he's cool reppin them, stupid fuckin trucks and tattoos all so the fans won't hold him accountable.
Sayin things like "I love how loyal this fanbase is", everything is an act to buy himself longevity.
You know what Rex might not be as numb as we first thought, he's a master in the art of deception.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 1, 2015 9:29:13 GMT -5
Herm came off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. Who gives a shit? Yeah, I'm sure everyone would love playing for a coach who absolves you of blame, constantly Flats* you on the back and takes you out to Dave and Buster's for pizza and videogames after a win like a fucking little league coach. Players loved playing under Rex. Every year he's near or at the top of the list of HCs that players want to play for. Don't remember all this Herm love. He was players coach but don't remember hearing about all the love that Rex got. Right down to his last one year reprieve and the cheers in the locker. And I ask again...who cares? Rex is a coach that players would love to play for...and he's coming off 4 straight seasons of missing the playoffs. Belidick is a prick...and is coming off his 4th Superbowl victory. I couldn't give two shits if Rex is a likable, relatable guy who players like to play for. I want a guy who produces results, period.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 1, 2015 9:31:03 GMT -5
And let's not forget Rex's physiological tactics to buy himself time with the fans, he's such a transparent fraud, he thinks you can't see him trying to pull the wool. "LOOKIE, LOOKIE, LOOKIE, HERE COMES COOKIE! Walking around a league meeting in a Bills jersey so the fans think he's cool reppin them, stupid fuckin trucks and tattoos all so the fans won't hold him accountable. Sayin things like "I love how loyal this fanbase is", everything is an act to buy himself longevity. You know what Rex might not be as numb as we first thought, he's a master in the art of deception. Yeah every one of those things screams fraud. Calling a franchise fan base that is known for its loyalty loyal does too. Come on this comical. Unless our HC did it, then he's cool
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Post by sec.101row23 on Apr 1, 2015 9:32:59 GMT -5
The whole "players love playing for ________" argument is SO overrated. Means very little.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Apr 1, 2015 9:34:49 GMT -5
Players loved playing under Rex. Every year he's near or at the top of the list of HCs that players want to play for. Don't remember all this Herm love. He was players coach but don't remember hearing about all the love that Rex got. Right down to his last one year reprieve and the cheers in the locker. And I ask again...who cares? Rex is a coach that players would love to play for...and he's coming off 4 straight seasons of missing the playoffs. Belidick is a prick...and is coming off his 4th Superbowl victory. I couldn't give two shits if Rex is a likable, relatable guy who players like to play for. I want a guy who produces results, period. I don't care, you brought it up. But my point is you keep saying the love and respect doesn't exist and everyone says it does. How successful it ultimately makes him isn't an argument. He failed after initial success. Not arguing that. He has deficiencies as a HC, I agree. Players not respecting him isn't one of his issues. They play hard for him, want to win for him. He just isn't a great HC.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 1, 2015 9:35:55 GMT -5
Herm came off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. Who gives a shit? Yeah, I'm sure everyone would love playing for a coach who absolves you of blame, constantly Flats* you on the back and takes you out to Dave and Buster's for pizza and videogames after a win like a fucking little league coach. Players loved playing under Rex. Every year he's near or at the top of the list of HCs that players want to play for. Don't remember all this Herm love. He was players coach but don't remember hearing about all the love that Rex got. Right down to his last one year reprieve and the cheers in the locker. Yeah there was such accountability for failing and such a low bar that the players thought it necessary to give him a Gatorade shower for less than a mediocre season. They should have been walking off that field in Miami looking fucking disgusted at their performance over the year, not jumpin around celebrating being losers.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 1, 2015 9:36:49 GMT -5
When Rex and his Bills make a strong run this year.....stronger than the Jets (sorry, but the Jills are better than us on both sides of the ball) will people here give Rex any credit whatsoever? They won 9 games last year with Doug Marrone who most of this board thinks of as a joke. So if Rex wins 9-10 games with the Bills this year, are you going to be heaping praise on him?
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