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Post by thebigragu on Apr 1, 2015 10:49:57 GMT -5
Im getting sick of hearing about Rex now that he's gone fuck him. Just like when Pennington was gone had to hear about that limp armed dickhead every other day. Fuck Rex and Fuck Chad Pennington
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Post by Harrier on Apr 1, 2015 10:54:39 GMT -5
Rex needs a word filter to "turkey neck"
This has to happen.
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 1, 2015 13:23:58 GMT -5
Not sure how you can't admit that he's a pretty damn good coach. Yes, he's a goof of a personality and will never win a Nobel Prize for literature, but he took the Jets as far as any coach except Weeb, never had a QB in the Top 20 of the league and was sabotaged by his GM at the end. Bowles will now benefit from an ownership/GM situation that is attempting to right the wrong they know they dealt Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen. I've moved on. The only success I wish Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen is off the field while he's with Buffalo. But there's no reason to trash the guy. I wish people recognized that Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen's coaching should be parsed out from his personality. The facts are that he is a loud, boastful guy who isn't a sophisticated communicator....and who is also one of the NFL's great defensive minds and a great motivator as a head coach. And if Doug Brien makes one of those late FG's 10 years ago in Pittsburgh...then Herm Edwards would've also taken the Jets as far as any coach since Weeb. And that was with a QB who had his right arm dangling by a thread. Doesn't mean that I consider Herm some kind of great coach. He was an inept jackass the same as Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen. Not to mention that in those two AFC Championship games under Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen, it was his much vaunted defense that was the primary culprit in both losses. He's a horrible gameday coach. His teams routinely look flat and unprepared (especially coming off a bye week or a big win). And his offensive philosophy comes straight out of the fucking stone age. He's a glorified DC masquerading as a HC. Period. Buffalo didn't hire him because they think he's a great coach. They hired him because he's a personality that will make them somewhat relevant again. Even as they continue to lose. He's a jackass. He supposedly had the Atlanta job in the palm of his hand...and then proceeds to go to Buffalo for an identical situation to the one that he was just fired from. The Jets are coming off 4 straight seasons without making the playoffs yet everyone wants to put that squarely on Tanny and Idzik. Seemingly absolving the HEAD COACH of everything. We'll probably never agree on Rex, and that's fine. I freely admit he's far from perfect, has several flaws as a head coach and isn't the kind of articulate communicator everyone would love to have speaking at pressers. However, in my opinion he's one of the Top 3 head coaches the Jets have ever had, he did "more with less" when it came to the QB and many other positions (particularly the past few years when the roster disintegrated), and he was the type of dangerous coach that instilled fear in everyone from Peyton Manning to Bill Belidick. The fact that he used Mark Sanchez to beat Brady and Belidick at least 4 times still boggles the mind when you think about it. And although people love to bitch about how he ruined our Draft position by winning "meaningless games" at the end of the season those games weren't meaningless to his team and they certainly weren't meaningless to our opponents. I watched Atlanta fold like a tent at Home in Week 17, 34-3 as their coach was on his last legs, while the Jets go to Miami and win 37-24 against a team looking to finish their season with a winning record. Heck, the Jets even outscored their opponents 106 to 98 over the last 5 weeks of the season....with absolutely nothing to play for. Think about that....in the final month of a season where our "savior" Percy Harvin was hurt, where guys like Chris Owusu (who?) was our WR2 when Kerley was in the slot, where the Jets started "Pro Bowlers" like Patrick Adams, Marcus Williams and Darrin Walls at CB the Jets were losing 1-point games to the eventual Super Bowl champions. Rex dragged a bunch of JAGs across the finish line of a season where he was damn close (1 point loss to NE, OT loss to Minnesota) to going 4-1 over the last 5 games. But maybe we credit Geno Smith for that and carrying the team??? Again, you and I will never be on the same page about Rex but there's a reason why he was immediately hired as a HC again with Buffalo and why he was being considered heavily by Atlanta. Teams looked at the Jets and asked themselves whether the problems on the team were Coaching or the Players. The answer was obvious.....so obvious that not only is Rex a HC again but the Jets have already replaced 3 of the 4 CB1, CB2, WR1, WR2 they had last year. We've already changed about 25% of our starting players in just the first 45 days after the season ended.....and we haven't even gotten to the Draft where the Jets are hoping to potentially replace their starting QB. lol....It's crazy. I've moved on and I'm a HUGE fan to Todd Bowles. I virtually had a front row seat to his success here in Arizona the past few years and the Jets absolutely made a great hire. But I have to speak up and set the record straight when I believe we as a fans don't give credit where credit is due.
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 1, 2015 13:41:46 GMT -5
Herm came off as the kind of coach that players want to play for. Who gives a shit? Yeah, I'm sure everyone would love playing for a coach who absolves you of blame, constantly Flats* you on the back and takes you out to Dave and Buster's for pizza and videogames after a win like a fucking little league coach. Players loved playing under Rex. Every year he's near or at the top of the list of HCs that players want to play for. Don't remember all this Herm love. He was players coach but don't remember hearing about all the love that Rex got. Right down to his last one year reprieve and the cheers in the locker. The "player's coach" argument is lazy and it's a knee-jerk term used by fans who likely have never played a sport in their lives. It's not like Rex was a player's coach when he was losing but not when he was winning. It's not like Pete Carroll was a player's coach with the Jets and Patriots, but now he's not with a team that's gone to the Super Bowl twice. There's simply a style and a craft to communicating with players that some coaches have and others don't. Players can tell the difference between a guy having them run wind sprints at the end of practice simply to be a dick and one doing it because it has a purpose. You can be tough and have high expectations, but also be fun to play for. Players want a guy who is genuine, who says what he'll do and then does what he says. You have to be able to take the temperature of your team and know how it's running, kinda like a car. You have to know when to hit the gas and when to hit the brake, and you have to "listen" to whether the engine is running smoothly or starting to clunk. That was a HUGE reason for the Giants success in their first SB run under Coughlin. A classic disciplinarian, Coughlin was known for punishing players if they showed up 3 minutes early for a team meeting because "If you're not here 5 minutes before the meeting starts then you're late." Late in that 2008 season Michael Strahan and a few other leaders on the team went to see Coughlin and told him that he's just pushing too hard, he's going to lose the team, and Coughlin adapted. He "listened to the engine." He modified a few things that showed the players he was human and didn't simply have rules for the sake of having rules. For anyone who despises this notion of a "player's coach" then you're out of luck and should find a new team because we just hired another one in Todd Bowles. Players love playing for this guy (see Antonio Cromartie)
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Post by Touchable on Apr 1, 2015 13:44:54 GMT -5
And if Doug Brien makes one of those late FG's 10 years ago in Pittsburgh...then Herm Edwards would've also taken the Jets as far as any coach since Weeb. And that was with a QB who had his right arm dangling by a thread. Doesn't mean that I consider Herm some kind of great coach. He was an inept jackass the same as Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen. Not to mention that in those two AFC Championship games under Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen, it was his much vaunted defense that was the primary culprit in both losses. He's a horrible gameday coach. His teams routinely look flat and unprepared (especially coming off a bye week or a big win). And his offensive philosophy comes straight out of the fucking stone age. He's a glorified DC masquerading as a HC. Period. Buffalo didn't hire him because they think he's a great coach. They hired him because he's a personality that will make them somewhat relevant again. Even as they continue to lose. He's a jackass. He supposedly had the Atlanta job in the palm of his hand...and then proceeds to go to Buffalo for an identical situation to the one that he was just fired from. The Jets are coming off 4 straight seasons without making the playoffs yet everyone wants to put that squarely on Tanny and Idzik. Seemingly absolving the HEAD COACH of everything. We'll probably never agree on Rex, and that's fine. I freely admit he's far from perfect, has several flaws as a head coach and isn't the kind of articulate communicator everyone would love to have speaking at pressers. However, in my opinion he's one of the Top 3 head coaches the Jets have ever had, he did "more with less" when it came to the QB and many other positions (particularly the past few years when the roster disintegrated), and he was the type of dangerous coach that instilled fear in everyone from Peyton Mr. Forehead to Bill Belidick. The fact that he used Mark Sanchez to beat Sparklepony and Belidick at least 4 times still boggles the mind when you think about it. And although people love to bitch about how he ruined our Draft position by winning "meaningless games" at the end of the season those games weren't meaningless to his team and they certainly weren't meaningless to our opponents. I watched Atlanta fold like a tent at Home in Week 17, 34-3 as their coach was on his last legs, while the Jets go to Miami and win 37-24 against a team looking to finish their season with a winning record. Heck, the Jets even outscored their opponents 106 to 98 over the last 5 weeks of the season....with absolutely nothing to play for. Think about that....in the final month of a season where our "savior" Percy Harvin was hurt, where guys like Chris Owusu (who?) was our WR2 when Kerley was in the slot, where the Jets started "Pro Bowlers" like Patrick Adams, Marcus Williams and Darrin Walls at CB the Jets were losing 1-point games to the eventual Super Bowl champions. Rex dragged a bunch of JAGs across the finish line of a season where he was damn close (1 point loss to NE, OT loss to Minnesota) to going 4-1 over the last 5 games. But maybe we credit Geno Smith for that and carrying the team??? Again, you and I will never be on the same page about Rex but there's a reason why he was immediately hired as a HC again with Buffalo and why he was being considered heavily by Atlanta. Teams looked at the Jets and asked themselves whether the problems on the team were Coaching or the Players. The answer was obvious.....so obvious that not only is Rex a HC again but the Jets have already replaced 3 of the 4 CB1, CB2, WR1, WR2 they had last year. We've already changed about 25% of our starting players in just the first 45 days after the season ended.....and we haven't even gotten to the Draft where the Jets are hoping to potentially replace their starting QB. lol....It's crazy. I've moved on and I'm a HUGE fan to Todd Bowles. I virtually had a front row seat to his success here in Arizona the past few years and the Jets absolutely made a great hire. But I have to speak up and set the record straight when I believe we as a fans don't give credit where credit is due. It doesn't really mean much to me if Rex can put together a great gameplan against the likes of Brady and Peyton if he's just going to turn around the next week and allow someone like Kyle Orton or Ryan Fitzpatrick to tear his defense a new asshole. I don't think that he's some horrific HC, but I wouldn't consider him "very good" either. And as for Rex getting hired almost immediately after getting fired...that means nothing. Mangini was hired almost immediately by Cleveland after we let him go. And hell, KC actually traded a draft pick for Herm. There are a lot of teams out there who have a bunch of mo-mo's running things in the front office.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 1, 2015 14:14:06 GMT -5
And if Doug Brien makes one of those late FG's 10 years ago in Pittsburgh...then Herm Edwards would've also taken the Jets as far as any coach since Weeb. And that was with a QB who had his right arm dangling by a thread. Doesn't mean that I consider Herm some kind of great coach. He was an inept jackass the same as Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen. Not to mention that in those two AFC Championship games under Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen, it was his much vaunted defense that was the primary culprit in both losses. He's a horrible gameday coach. His teams routinely look flat and unprepared (especially coming off a bye week or a big win). And his offensive philosophy comes straight out of the fucking stone age. He's a glorified DC masquerading as a HC. Period. Buffalo didn't hire him because they think he's a great coach. They hired him because he's a personality that will make them somewhat relevant again. Even as they continue to lose. He's a jackass. He supposedly had the Atlanta job in the palm of his hand...and then proceeds to go to Buffalo for an identical situation to the one that he was just fired from. The Jets are coming off 4 straight seasons without making the playoffs yet everyone wants to put that squarely on Tanny and Idzik. Seemingly absolving the HEAD COACH of everything. We'll probably never agree on Rex, and that's fine. I freely admit he's far from perfect, has several flaws as a head coach and isn't the kind of articulate communicator everyone would love to have speaking at pressers. However, in my opinion he's one of the Top 3 head coaches the Jets have ever had, he did "more with less" when it came to the QB and many other positions (particularly the past few years when the roster disintegrated), and he was the type of dangerous coach that instilled fear in everyone from Peyton Mr. Forehead to Bill Belidick. The fact that he used Mark Sanchez to beat Sparklepony and Belidick at least 4 times still boggles the mind when you think about it. And although people love to bitch about how he ruined our Draft position by winning "meaningless games" at the end of the season those games weren't meaningless to his team and they certainly weren't meaningless to our opponents. I watched Atlanta fold like a tent at Home in Week 17, 34-3 as their coach was on his last legs, while the Jets go to Miami and win 37-24 against a team looking to finish their season with a winning record. Heck, the Jets even outscored their opponents 106 to 98 over the last 5 weeks of the season....with absolutely nothing to play for. Think about that....in the final month of a season where our "savior" Percy Harvin was hurt, where guys like Chris Owusu (who?) was our WR2 when Kerley was in the slot, where the Jets started "Pro Bowlers" like Patrick Adams, Marcus Williams and Darrin Walls at CB the Jets were losing 1-point games to the eventual Super Bowl champions. Rex dragged a bunch of JAGs across the finish line of a season where he was damn close (1 point loss to NE, OT loss to Minnesota) to going 4-1 over the last 5 games. But maybe we credit Geno Smith for that and carrying the team??? Again, you and I will never be on the same page about Rex but there's a reason why he was immediately hired as a HC again with Buffalo and why he was being considered heavily by Atlanta. Teams looked at the Jets and asked themselves whether the problems on the team were Coaching or the Players. The answer was obvious.....so obvious that not only is Rex a HC again but the Jets have already replaced 3 of the 4 CB1, CB2, WR1, WR2 they had last year. We've already changed about 25% of our starting players in just the first 45 days after the season ended.....and we haven't even gotten to the Draft where the Jets are hoping to potentially replace their starting QB. lol....It's crazy. I've moved on and I'm a HUGE fan to Todd Bowles. I virtually had a front row seat to his success here in Arizona the past few years and the Jets absolutely made a great hire. But I have to speak up and set the record straight when I believe we as a fans don't give credit where credit is due. I've said this before stream, I enjoy your posts but you really let yourself down with this delusional Rex man crush. I give him credit for taking Tannys and Manginis teams to the champ games, catching the league off guard with his defensive schemes and motivational strengths, however after that Rex's tenure was a train wreck, and to be honest we lucked out in a lot of those games in 09-10. The deficiencies you keep eluding to where a direct result of a Rex Ryan influenced collaboration with both General managers. You can't keep giving Rex a pass for roster deficiencies when he is in the war room with a big personality, often he got players he wanted, he neglected the offensive side of the ball and he never developed enough top tier talent he contributed to selecting. Roster deficiencies aside, Rex was the HC that churned out some of the worst offensive football the league has witnessed IMO. He refuses to adapt to the modern NFL, he is stubborn in his ethos and forces a system on his players rather than playing to his players strengths (see Coples) How many games did you see where a Rex Ryan led team turned the ball over so carelessly? How many 3rd and long completions did his defence give up in critical situations. How many back breaking drives just before HT did you witness? How many poorly prepared teams did you witness after a bye. Rex Ryan is a coveted coach for his ability to put bums on seats and garner interest through his media antics and personality, not because of his successful record and proven successful Head coaching ability. He puts targets on his players backs, players might want to play for him but other teams players want to beat his ass for the way he conducts his business. The Bills got a coach coming off 4 non playoff seasons with teams he contributed to building, you can't praise him for 09/10 if you're not going to hold him accountable for HIS teams failures. The biggest fucking joke about Rex is this "the players play hard for him" all players play hard for their livelihoods and family's, not because some fuckin motivational speaker tells them they are great when they stink like a tramps armpit. Rex Ryan fails as a coach because his overall concept is to be liked rather than win, he creates an atmosphere of zero accountability, no one is scared of failure, it's a system solely relied on by motivation but no consequences. At the end of the day the proof is in the pudding, Rex was a disaster as a HC here, but because he's a likeable Irishman, fuck it we will give him a pass. If he cared about the overall product rather than standing on the podium bragging about how his defense will be top 5 he would be halfway there to realising his deficiencies. So in conclusion.... Turnovers....Sanchez/Genos fault. Offense....Sparanos, MM, Shittys fault. Roster deficiencies....Tanny/Idzik fault. WHEN WAS IT EVER REX RYANS FAULT? But hey, it's our loss eh?
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Apr 1, 2015 14:26:45 GMT -5
When Rex and his Bills make a strong run this year.....stronger than the Jets (sorry, but the Jills are better than us on both sides of the ball) will people here give Rex any credit whatsoever? They won 9 games last year with Doug Marrone who most of this board thinks of as a joke. So if Rex wins 9-10 games with the Bills this year, are you going to be heaping praise on him? Most of this board wanted him as the Jets next coach
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Apr 1, 2015 14:33:19 GMT -5
However, in my opinion he's one of the Top 3 head coaches the Jets have ever had, he did "more with less" when it came to the QB and many other positions (particularly the past few years when the roster disintegrated), and he was the type of dangerous coach that instilled fear in everyone from Peyton Mr. Forehead to Bill Belidick. The fact that he used Mark Sanchez to beat Sparklepony and Belidick at least 4 times still boggles the mind Great points. And let's not forget, Rex going to the CG with Mark Sanchez twice, compared to Chip Kelly the 'offensive genius' who couldn't even get into the playoffs with Sanchez who was by then much more experienced and coming off a year's rest for shoulder surgery, which Rex managed to work around.
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Post by Touchable on Apr 1, 2015 14:34:17 GMT -5
They won 9 games last year with Doug Marrone who most of this board thinks of as a joke. So if Rex wins 9-10 games with the Bills this year, are you going to be heaping praise on him? Most of this board wanted him as the Jets next coach I don't recall that I remember a handful of people wanting him (he was on my short list with Bowles and Quinn). But the majority wanted nothing to do with him. Saying he had no loyalty, Buffalo's relative success last year was only due to their defense, etc.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Apr 1, 2015 14:35:44 GMT -5
Most of this board wanted him as the Jets next coach I don't recall that I remember a handful of people wanting him (he was on my short list with Bowles and Quinn). But the majority wanted nothing to do with him. Saying he had no loyalty, Buffalo's relative success last year was only due to their defense, etc. I didn't want him at all, and got a hard time from posters here about it including getting negative repped for it
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 1, 2015 15:46:23 GMT -5
We'll probably never agree on Rex, and that's fine. I freely admit he's far from perfect, has several flaws as a head coach and isn't the kind of articulate communicator everyone would love to have speaking at pressers. However, in my opinion he's one of the Top 3 head coaches the Jets have ever had, he did "more with less" when it came to the QB and many other positions (particularly the past few years when the roster disintegrated), and he was the type of dangerous coach that instilled fear in everyone from Peyton Mr. Forehead to Bill Belidick. The fact that he used Mark Sanchez to beat Sparklepony and Belidick at least 4 times still boggles the mind when you think about it. And although people love to bitch about how he ruined our Draft position by winning "meaningless games" at the end of the season those games weren't meaningless to his team and they certainly weren't meaningless to our opponents. I watched Atlanta fold like a tent at Home in Week 17, 34-3 as their coach was on his last legs, while the Jets go to Miami and win 37-24 against a team looking to finish their season with a winning record. Heck, the Jets even outscored their opponents 106 to 98 over the last 5 weeks of the season....with absolutely nothing to play for. Think about that....in the final month of a season where our "savior" Percy Harvin was hurt, where guys like Chris Owusu (who?) was our WR2 when Kerley was in the slot, where the Jets started "Pro Bowlers" like Patrick Adams, Marcus Williams and Darrin Walls at CB the Jets were losing 1-point games to the eventual Super Bowl champions. Rex dragged a bunch of JAGs across the finish line of a season where he was damn close (1 point loss to NE, OT loss to Minnesota) to going 4-1 over the last 5 games. But maybe we credit Geno Smith for that and carrying the team??? Again, you and I will never be on the same page about Rex but there's a reason why he was immediately hired as a HC again with Buffalo and why he was being considered heavily by Atlanta. Teams looked at the Jets and asked themselves whether the problems on the team were Coaching or the Players. The answer was obvious.....so obvious that not only is Rex a HC again but the Jets have already replaced 3 of the 4 CB1, CB2, WR1, WR2 they had last year. We've already changed about 25% of our starting players in just the first 45 days after the season ended.....and we haven't even gotten to the Draft where the Jets are hoping to potentially replace their starting QB. lol....It's crazy. I've moved on and I'm a HUGE fan to Todd Bowles. I virtually had a front row seat to his success here in Arizona the past few years and the Jets absolutely made a great hire. But I have to speak up and set the record straight when I believe we as a fans don't give credit where credit is due. I've said this before stream, I enjoy your posts but you really let yourself down with this delusional Rex man crush. I give him credit for taking Tannys and Manginis teams to the champ games, catching the league off guard with his defensive schemes and motivational strengths, however after that Rex's tenure was a train wreck, and to be honest we lucked out in a lot of those games in 09-10. The deficiencies you keep eluding to where a direct result of a Rex Ryan influenced collaboration with both General managers. You can't keep giving Rex a pass for roster deficiencies when he is in the war room with a big personality, often he got players he wanted, he neglected the offensive side of the ball and he never developed enough top tier talent he contributed to selecting. Roster deficiencies aside, Rex was the HC that churned out some of the worst offensive football the league has witnessed IMO. He refuses to adapt to the modern NFL, he is stubborn in his ethos and forces a system on his players rather than playing to his players strengths (see Coples) How many games did you see where a Rex Ryan led team turned the ball over so carelessly? How many 3rd and long completions did his defence give up in critical situations. How many back breaking drives just before HT did you witness? How many poorly prepared teams did you witness after a bye. Rex Ryan is a coveted coach for his ability to put bums on seats and garner interest through his media antics and personality, not because of his successful record and proven successful Head coaching ability. He puts targets on his players backs, players might want to play for him but other teams players want to beat his ass for the way he conducts his business. The Bills got a coach coming off 4 non playoff seasons with teams he contributed to building, you can't praise him for 09/10 if you're not going to hold him accountable for HIS teams failures. The biggest fucking joke about Rex is this "the players play hard for him" all players play hard for their livelihoods and family's, not because some fuckin motivational speaker tells them they are great when they stink like a tramps armpit. Rex Ryan fails as a coach because his overall concept is to be liked rather than win, he creates an atmosphere of zero accountability, no one is scared of failure, it's a system solely relied on by motivation but no consequences. At the end of the day the proof is in the pudding, Rex was a disaster as a HC here, but because he's a likeable Irishman, fuck it we will give him a pass. If he cared about the overall product rather than standing on the podium bragging about how his defense will be top 5 he would be halfway there to realising his deficiencies. So in conclusion.... Turnovers....Sanchez/Genos fault. Offense....Sparanos, MM, Shittys fault. Roster deficiencies....Tanny/Idzik fault. WHEN WAS IT EVER REX RYANS FAULT? But hey, it's our loss eh? Everyone's entitled to their opinion and I certainly respect yours. I just have a very different one. I see a coach who would have benefited from a strong GM and I agree that perhaps Tanny and Idzik were pushovers in the Draft Room if it came down to a decision between a couple of players who were rated closely. I simply don't know. But that's on the organization. The Jets should have recognized that they had a HC who was truly excellent in some areas and had deficiencies in others. Then, you work to accentuate his strengths and mitigate his weaknesses. You put a stronger GM in place, you get a quality QB or find a coach/QB guru who can develop a QB. And while you talk about some of the "worst offensive football the league has witnessed" it's important to recognize that's largely all in the passing game. The Jets have had extremely capable rushing for most of Rex's tenure. We were able to run the ball against teams who knew we were going to run. The passing game was decent for about one season with Mark Sanchez, Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, and Dustin Keller. That's it. The other seasons exposed that our QBs simply weren't that good and they were often throwing to starters including Stephen Hill, David Nelson, Chris Owusu or when we put Kerley into the WR2 spot where he simply does not fit. To function with a passing offense you need either a great QB or great WRs and you often need both....when we, in fact, had neither. I guess New England's success is due to the offensive mastermind Bill Belidick teaching Tom Brady how to throw a football? I'd also love to replace Hall of Fame coach Chuck Pagano so that I can just point to TY Hilton and tell Andrew Luck to throw it to him. Anybody who expected Rex Ryan to come in and make shitty QBs shine like a diamond is delusional. Even noted offensive coaches like Jon Gruden can't make magic without talent. His 4-12 season in Tampa should have been 2-14 if not for a couple of lucky wins. What I do know is that Rex Ryan befuddled some of the best opposing QBs in the league. He won consecutive playoff games on the road against the two best QBs in the NFL of the past 20 years. The Jets won some games they had no business winning and they certainly lost their share of ugly ones, but most of the time the Jets were competitive. They lost two games this year to the eventual Super Bowl champions....one game by 2 points, the other by 1 point. In other words, they were closer to beating that Pats twice than the Seahawks were. And the Jets did this with Geno Smith at QB and some dudes in the secondary who may not be playing in the NFL this year. Rex Ryan had one of the most deficient rosters in the league last year. There is no argument about that. Stevie Wonder could see the lack of talent. It's already evidenced by the Jets replacing at least 5 starters in just the past few weeks. AND that doesn't include the Bottom 10 QB we've been starting. You can't give Rory McElroy at bag of twigs and tree branches instead of golf clubs and then complain when he only shoots an 84 at Augusta. You can't then say we need a new golfer to swing that leafy stick better. Fortunately for the Jets, after changing the golfer they immediately went out at put some Callaways in the bag.
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 1, 2015 15:47:54 GMT -5
I don't recall that I remember a handful of people wanting him (he was on my short list with Bowles and Quinn). But the majority wanted nothing to do with him. Saying he had no loyalty, Buffalo's relative success last year was only due to their defense, etc. I didn't want him at all, and got a hard time from posters here about it including getting negative repped for it lol You don't like Doug Moron? NEGATIVE REP for you!
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Post by Paradis on Apr 1, 2015 15:59:15 GMT -5
Love him or hate him, Rex has become the Bills...and the Bills have become Rex. Interesting article. My take is that they're simply going all in with the Rex brand of football (Defense, Ground and Pound) and they'll ride it for a while. It may crash and burn or it may work (afterall, it did both of those things here). I will always believe that Rex got a bit of a raw deal here and that the misfire on hiring Idzik caused us to fire a coach who is definitely in the top half of the league, but now that he's gone I hope Rex finds the same success in Buffalo that he found with the Jets from 2012-2014. Rex and Idzik weren't on the same page, and that was the biggest problem. Idzik made Rex worse and Rex may have made Idzik look worse (if that's possible). At least in Buffalo it's clear there's one captain of the ship.....let's just hope he steers it into an iceberg after using all his timeouts. bills.buffalonews.com/2015/03/31/new-slogan-among-bills-hierarchy-one-ego-one-goal/Youre the king of keeping up with AFC East drama
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Post by jetstream23 on Apr 1, 2015 21:47:38 GMT -5
Love him or hate him, Rex has become the Bills...and the Bills have become Rex. Interesting article. My take is that they're simply going all in with the Rex brand of football (Defense, Ground and Pound) and they'll ride it for a while. It may crash and burn or it may work (afterall, it did both of those things here). I will always believe that Rex got a bit of a raw deal here and that the misfire on hiring Idzik caused us to fire a coach who is definitely in the top half of the league, but now that he's gone I hope Rex finds the same success in Buffalo that he found with the Jets from 2012-2014. Rex and Idzik weren't on the same page, and that was the biggest problem. Idzik made Rex worse and Rex may have made Idzik look worse (if that's possible). At least in Buffalo it's clear there's one captain of the ship.....let's just hope he steers it into an iceberg after using all his timeouts. bills.buffalonews.com/2015/03/31/new-slogan-among-bills-hierarchy-one-ego-one-goal/Youre the king of keeping up with AFC East drama COMMON man! Grab that hot little girlfriend of yours and let's meet up for a Jets game again!
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Post by Paradis on Apr 1, 2015 22:10:01 GMT -5
Youre the king of keeping up with AFC East drama COMMON man! Grab that hot little girlfriend of yours and let's meet up for a Jets game again! I wish, got 2 kids now... c'est tough... You name a game, and i'll see about gettin' there.
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