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Post by Paradis on Mar 7, 2016 15:37:55 GMT -5
Lets take a look with a 3 year window in mind shall we?
QB: presently don't have anything resembling a franchise QB. We have Geno. Even if Fitz signs, how long does that last?!
TE: fck off
RB: we literally have none on the roster as of tomorrow
WR: On the surface, its looks "OK", but with 3 years Marshall will retired/mummy, Decker will be over 30 and.... ?
Oline: none-existent in the "future-hope" department. Mangold and Brick will gone in 3 years i'd wager.
and we have 6.7 in cap space at the moment, worst in the league.
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Post by carlton on Mar 7, 2016 15:39:07 GMT -5
It's bad.... We are kind of in win now mode with no QB to win now.
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Post by Augustiniak on Mar 7, 2016 15:52:01 GMT -5
well as we said in another thread, this is why they're not keeping snacks. they need to draft and develop offensive talent, which they really haven't done in nearly a decade.
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Post by Harrier on Mar 7, 2016 16:17:14 GMT -5
Lol TE fuck off.
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Post by jetstream23 on Mar 7, 2016 16:36:51 GMT -5
Our long snapper seemed decent last year.  |
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Post by Peebag on Mar 7, 2016 16:43:17 GMT -5
They need to renegotiate Brick's contract - he's been solid for us but at this stage sorry you're not a 14 million dollar left tackle.
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Post by Paradis on Mar 7, 2016 16:52:36 GMT -5
well as we said in another thread, this is why they're not keeping snacks. they need to draft and develop offensive talent, which they really haven't done in nearly a decade. I think we're the counter-argument to BPA... which got us into a mess with Wilk-Coples-Richardson-Williams, and no OTs, or Playmakers in sight on the roster now. Coples; we needed (and still do) oline help. DeCastro was right there. The following year, still wasn't good enough that we took 2 Dlinemen, so we went and took Richardson.. instead of Tyler Eifert. Just last year... Todd Gurley over Williams; dynamic is changed on offense, (and we probably make the playoffs) So let me ask you, would you trade Coples, Richardson and Williams, for DeCastro, Eifert and Gurley right now?.. I know i would. The former 3 haven't amounted to anything except a few nice fluff pieces... and in coples case, a kick in the ass on the way out. |
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Post by rangerous on Mar 7, 2016 17:10:33 GMT -5
Lets take a look with a 3 year window in mind shall we? QB: presently don't have anything resembling a franchise QB. We have Geno. Even if Fitz signs, how long does that last?! TE: fck off RB: we literally have none on the roster as of tomorrow WR: On the surface, its looks "OK", but with 3 years Marshall will retired/mummy, Decker will be over 30 and.... ? Oline: none-existent in the "future-hope" department. Mangold and Brick will gone in 3 years i'd wager. and we have 6.7 in cap space at the moment, worst in the league. that's why maccagnan gets the big bucks. it's not as bad as it seems. true enough that marshall and decker have short shelf lives and mangold and brick are getting beyond their sell by dates but they do have some young guys for depth on the oline and amaro and smith will be coming back as well as owusu and enunwa in the receiving corps. fitz? depends on what he wants. he's good enough for a couple of seasons while petty and or genot and or  ? get ready. on defense they have a stacked line but as many teams have demonstrated a stacked line doesn't necessarily mean great qb pressure. so even though harrison or wilkerson may be going out the door it doesn't mean they won't be replaced by equal or better players or the defensive scheme changed to take advantage. as for the cap, it's low from the standpoint of signing or even re-signing free agents but they also have 6 draft picks so between the draft and udfa's they should be able to get better. and they should be able to renegotiate brick's contract. |
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Post by rangerous on Mar 7, 2016 17:14:35 GMT -5
well as we said in another thread, this is why they're not keeping snacks. they need to draft and develop offensive talent, which they really haven't done in nearly a decade. I think we're the counter-argument to BPA... which got us into a mess with Wilk-Coples-Richardson-Williams, and no OTs, or Playmakers in sight on the roster now. Coples; we needed (and still do) oline help. DeCastro was right there. The following year, still wasn't good enough that we took 2 Dlinemen, so we went and took Richardson.. instead of Tyler Eifert. Just last year... Todd Gurley over Williams; dynamic is changed on offense, (and we probably make the playoffs) So let me ask you, would you trade Coples, Richardson and Williams, for DeCastro, Eifert and Gurley right now?.. I know i would. The former 3 haven't amounted to anything except a few nice fluff pieces... and in coples case, a kick in the ass on the way out. coples is a no brainer. richardson? that guy can play. as long as he stays out of trouble, he's at least as good as wilk. williams? i don't see how you can judge him against another player after only one season. yeah we all get he in a position the jets didn't need at the time but teams that draft solely on need seem to go no where. williams will make it possible for the jets to trade wilkerson for a, hopefully, high draft choice. |
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Post by Paradis on Mar 7, 2016 17:28:45 GMT -5
I think we're the counter-argument to BPA... which got us into a mess with Wilk-Coples-Richardson-Williams, and no OTs, or Playmakers in sight on the roster now. Coples; we needed (and still do) oline help. DeCastro was right there. The following year, still wasn't good enough that we took 2 Dlinemen, so we went and took Richardson.. instead of Tyler Eifert. Just last year... Todd Gurley over Williams; dynamic is changed on offense, (and we probably make the playoffs) So let me ask you, would you trade Coples, Richardson and Williams, for DeCastro, Eifert and Gurley right now?.. I know i would. The former 3 haven't amounted to anything except a few nice fluff pieces... and in coples case, a kick in the ass on the way out. coples is a no brainer. richardson? that guy can play. as long as he stays out of trouble, he's at least as good as wilk. williams? i don't see how you can judge him against another player after only one season. yeah we all get he in a position the jets didn't need at the time but teams that draft solely on need seem to go no where. williams will make it possible for the jets to trade wilkerson for a, hopefully, high draft choice. Can't pick through the pile. All 3 for all 3... and how you could dance around Gurley vs Williams is beyond me. At what point... seriously... at what point can you say -- OK, WE GOT THAT COVERED. when we have 6 DEs? 7?.. If the Jets took Vernon Butler over Zeke Elliot this year, would you still make excuses for what that was a smart play? I don't care how good Williams is, it's just not good roster management. You say things like "it allows us to trade Wilk"... why? Why on earth would we want to trade the only Jet that's worked out in the last 10 years? We have to now, but fck. It shouldn't have come to this. I stand by what i said. |
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Post by Paradis on Mar 7, 2016 17:32:18 GMT -5
Lets take a look with a 3 year window in mind shall we? QB: presently don't have anything resembling a franchise QB. We have Geno. Even if Fitz signs, how long does that last?! TE: fck off RB: we literally have none on the roster as of tomorrow WR: On the surface, its looks "OK", but with 3 years Marshall will retired/mummy, Decker will be over 30 and.... ? Oline: none-existent in the "future-hope" department. Mangold and Brick will gone in 3 years i'd wager. and we have 6.7 in cap space at the moment, worst in the league. that's why maccagnan gets the big bucks. it's not as bad as it seems. true enough that marshall and decker have short shelf lives and mangold and brick are getting beyond their sell by dates but they do have some young guys for depth on the oline and amaro and smith will be coming back as well as owusu and enunwa in the receiving corps. fitz? depends on what he wants. he's good enough for a couple of seasons while petty and or genot and or ? get ready. on defense they have a stacked line but as many teams have demonstrated a stacked line doesn't necessarily mean great qb pressure. so even though harrison or wilkerson may be going out the door it doesn't mean they won't be replaced by equal or better players or the defensive scheme changed to take advantage. as for the cap, it's low from the standpoint of signing or even re-signing free agents but they also have 6 draft picks so between the draft and udfa's they should be able to get better. and they should be able to renegotiate brick's contract. I respectfully ask you -- what's your point? "Yes, we have all these problems... but cmon..." that's about what your reply amounted to. You acknowledged all the issues, and made vague references to "depth" and the potential of replacements... If this was a business meeting, and that was your presentation on how to address the issues, I'd have pushed the "trap-door" button about 10 minutes ago. |
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Post by Ff2 on Mar 7, 2016 18:26:02 GMT -5
It's bad.... We are kind of in win now mode with no QB to win now. Win now. Lolz. |
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Post by designerjet on Mar 7, 2016 18:43:47 GMT -5
No, I wouldn't do that trade. Richardson did nothing - I thought he made the Pro Bowl. Williams could be a perennial Pro Bowler after a strong rookie season, but I guess that's nothing. Running backs get hurt all the time and TE's don't need to be drafted in the first round.
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Post by johnnyhector on Mar 7, 2016 18:52:50 GMT -5
Only have 118 mil locked up for next year and I'm sure the cap will go up another 5-8 mil so your lookin at about 45 mil in space as of right now so cap doesn't look that bad just some high contracts for this year .. If they wanted they can clear 20-25 mil for this years free agency period
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Post by carlton on Mar 7, 2016 19:31:53 GMT -5
It's bad.... We are kind of in win now mode with no QB to win now. Win now. Lolz. Think someone missed the point of that post. No surprise here folks!! |
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