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Post by Paradis on May 14, 2016 2:16:27 GMT -5
I guess you have to ask yourself, had Fitz (under Rex and Marty) started the same games in 2013-2014... how would he have looked? Cause Fitz has certainly looked like a bag of dogshit at points of his career.
So the question I ask; why is Fitz allowed to be "good in this system" but shit everywhere else, yet it's impossible that Geno was partially a product of the system/coaching he was under during his time?
There's no 2016 version of Fitz that's lights out. Why would we not want to see what Geno/Petty look like in 2016 before making major roster decisions in 2017?
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Post by chadp on May 14, 2016 17:14:27 GMT -5
Who f-ing cares about Bart Scott this time of year.? It's May, no Rangers playoffs and the Yankees are in last place. That's what sucks..
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Post by vin on May 15, 2016 0:26:33 GMT -5
He does? What makes you say that? There is one relevant Jets precedent, Vinny Testeverde. He had a Parcells type coach; teh coach "reigned him in"...until Vinny could throw 29 TDs And everybody here knows when the coach sits you, you watch and go back in, sharper. So I'm looking for a little dead-cat bounce from 7. Except...can you see Geno throwing 29 TDs and only 7 picks, though?
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Post by greenwave on May 15, 2016 1:30:04 GMT -5
There is one relevant Jets precedent, Vinny Testeverde. He had a Parcells type coach; teh coach "reigned him in"...until Vinny could throw 29 TDs And everybody here knows when the coach sits you, you watch and go back in, sharper. So I'm looking for a little dead-cat bounce from 7. Except...can you see Geno throwing 29 TDs and only 7 picks, though? Until this year, could you have imagined Fitz having a year where he threw 29 TDs and only 7 picks? How anyone can shut the door completely on Geno after two seasons but believe in a guy who's been terrible for the better part of a decade is beyond me.
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Post by frostlich on May 15, 2016 7:13:26 GMT -5
The Breakdown and Thunderdome should be awesome by week 8. Better than our team anyway.
SAR will crawl out of his hole to be the match in the powder keg.
And the fan base will hit another low as the pats go 4 and 0 with Brady watching from home...only to come in week 5 rested and ready.
FML!
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Post by Hotman on May 15, 2016 11:09:52 GMT -5
The Breakdown and Thunderdome should be awesome by week 8. Better than our team anyway. SAR will crawl out of his hole to be the match in the powder keg. And the fan base will hit another low as the pats go 4 and 0 with Brady watching from home...only to come in week 5 rested and ready. FML! When you cheat as awesome as they do you don't even need a QB!
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Post by vin on May 15, 2016 11:11:24 GMT -5
Except...can you see Geno throwing 29 TDs and only 7 picks, though? Until this year, could you have imagined Fitz having a year where he threw 29 TDs and only 7 picks? How anyone can shut the door completely on Geno after two seasons but believe in a guy who's been terrible for the better part of a decade is beyond me. Probably because we have seen up close how Geno is : Damn good physical tools; Mental-Midget however. The most disconcerting thing is that he didn't seem to be getting better(mentally) at all from one season to the next. Even though it's "just" two seasons, he showed no reason during that time to deserve any more time at QB. 'Cause if he did, Jets wouldn't have took a shot in the dark with Bryce Petty nor would they have drafted another QB(Hack). Jets management knows what many of us know : Geno does not have a future here as the Jets starting QB. (btw, this is just my opinion and should not be taken as fact. lol)
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Post by The Turk on May 16, 2016 2:51:06 GMT -5
I guess you have to ask yourself, had Fitz (under Rex and Marty) started the same games in 2013-2014... how would he have looked? Cause Fitz has certainly looked like a bag of dogshit at points of his career. So the question I ask; why is Fitz allowed to be "good in this system" but shit everywhere else, yet it's impossible that Geno was partially a product of the system/coaching he was under during his time? There's no 2016 version of Fitz that's lights out. Why would we not want to see what Geno/Petty look like in 2016 before making major roster decisions in 2017? Because Gailey's system, as I understand it, places emphasis on the mental side of a QB's game rather than giving him simple reads and asking him to make difficult throws. I'm guessing this is also why they had Hackenburg rated so high. Geno does have ability but he has physical ability only, he understands very little if at all of what is going on around him. Of course the only thing that's giving me pause is the fact that Geno seemed to be the front runner before he got his jaw shattered and it was this coaching staff who thought he would be better than Fitzy so maybe there is hope. But even if there is its very little unless he has somehow matured and gotten smarter in the past year. I've never been a Geno fan but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until the Raiders game. İt was like the SD game for vick. He showed that he either doesn't care or he is just dumb as a rock. I keep beating this dead horse but its still relevant; a third year QB does not run out of bounds with the ball in his hands 10 yards behind the LoS. That to me is a cuttable offense and who he plays with (receivers etc.) has no bearing on such an idiotic error.
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Post by thebigragu on May 16, 2016 9:28:10 GMT -5
You guys simply aren't true Jet fans if you agree with this assclown. That's a fact. I, for one, am damn proud to be a fan of this team and fully expect them to win at least 10 games this season. Anyone who disagrees can take a backseat. No you can get in the trunk fuckhead. This isn't a fucking glitter and rainbow blown up your ass jet site. We're actual dickheads that supported these fucking jerkoffs over 20 30 years by going to games and buying their bullshit. Anyone here can tear the Jets a new asshole anytime they fucking please. It's the same fucking bullshit every fucking year QB QB QB QB QB QB QB QB. You want to dance in the fucking streets over Geno knock yourself out
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Post by Peebag on May 16, 2016 9:33:33 GMT -5
You guys simply aren't true Jet fans if you agree with this assclown. That's a fact. I, for one, am damn proud to be a fan of this team and fully expect them to win at least 10 games this season. Anyone who disagrees can take a backseat. No you can get in the trunk fuckhead. This isn't a fucking glitter and rainbow blown up your ass jet site. We're actual dickheads that supported these fucking jerkoffs over 20 30 years by going to games and buying their bullshit. Anyone here can tear the Jets a new asshole anytime they fucking please. It's the same fucking bullshit every fucking year QB QB QB QB QB QB QB QB. You want to dance in the fucking streets over Geno knock yourself out what he said.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on May 16, 2016 14:26:40 GMT -5
You guys simply aren't true Jet fans if you agree with this assclown. That's a fact. I, for one, am damn proud to be a fan of this team and fully expect them to win at least 10 games this season. Anyone who disagrees can take a backseat. No you can get in the trunk fuckhead. This isn't a fucking glitter and rainbow blown up your ass jet site. We're actual dickheads that supported these fucking jerkoffs over 20 30 years by going to games and buying their bullshit. Anyone here can tear the Jets a new asshole anytime they fucking please. It's the same fucking bullshit every fucking year QB QB QB QB QB QB QB QB. You want to dance in the fucking streets over Geno knock yourself out I'm sorry, but you're being way too hard on the Jets. They are not as bad as you think. I've been a fan for a while and don't feel that the Jets are owed anything or have particularly bad luck relative to other squads. It's simply the luck of the draw; only one of 32 teams can win it each year, and compared to other sports leagues, the NFL has an unusually large amount of parity across the individual teams. Quite frankly, I think it's very short-sighted to suggest that it's all about the QB and nothing else. Last I checked, the Jets didn't win anything with good QB play from O'Brien, Vinny, Chad or Favre. This fanbase, in particular, has a chronic whining, woe-is-me syndrome unmatched by the vast majority of fanbases around the league. In comparison to other teams, we really don't have it as bad as some of you would think.
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Post by thebigragu on May 16, 2016 20:43:04 GMT -5
No you can get in the trunk fuckhead. This isn't a fucking glitter and rainbow blown up your ass jet site. We're actual dickheads that supported these fucking jerkoffs over 20 30 years by going to games and buying their bullshit. Anyone here can tear the Jets a new asshole anytime they fucking please. It's the same fucking bullshit every fucking year QB QB QB QB QB QB QB QB. You want to dance in the fucking streets over Geno knock yourself out I'm sorry, but you're being way too hard on the Jets. They are not as bad as you think. I've been a fan for a while and don't feel that the Jets are owed anything or have particularly bad luck relative to other squads. It's simply the luck of the draw; only one of 32 teams can win it each year, and compared to other sports leagues, the NFL has an unusually large amount of parity across the individual teams. Quite frankly, I think it's very short-sighted to suggest that it's all about the QB and nothing else. Last I checked, the Jets didn't win anything with good QB play from O'Brien, Vinny, Chad or Favre. This fanbase, in particular, has a chronic whining, woe-is-me syndrome unmatched by the vast majority of fanbases around the league. In comparison to other teams, we really don't have it as bad as some of you would think. Chad fucking pennington. Im going to take a minute or two before i reply to your post
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Post by Hotman on May 16, 2016 20:49:12 GMT -5
To his credit we are def not as bad as the Diseased Falcons. That team sucks ass and has never won a championship and choked harder than any other Atl team quite possibly. That what GA gets for being a happy police state. Teams of chokers and losers who need to sell off to Canada and leave major voids that turn into Foe-Country hipster PBR meetups.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on May 17, 2016 8:03:08 GMT -5
How dare he insult the Je...oh wait, he's fucking right. Nothing to see here. No he's not. Please show me, objectively-speaking, how Bart Scott is right in his prediction that the Jets win 6 games max this year.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on May 17, 2016 8:04:27 GMT -5
I'm fine with this....and they are going to suck next year....and I'm fine with that as well. Everyone needs to temper expectations because this front office and coach are building for 2017-2020, years 3 through 5 of their contracts. They're not going to blatantly admit it, but I have no doubt in my mind that they're willing to accept 2 steps back this year to take 3 steps forward in 2017. Are you willing to make a bet that the Jets win less than 8 games this year? I'm willing to do it if you are. Let's see how tough you are now. Put your money where your mouth is.
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