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Post by thebigragu on May 18, 2016 20:52:48 GMT -5
OK I'm willing to look past that you called me dumb for no reason at all when all I was trying to do was engage you in what I thought was an intelligent conversation but as you said I get easily confused. That's all fine and dandy if that's the way you get your rocks off go ahead just explain one thing to me; I posted a very specific example about the cognetively smart but attitude/personalitywise challenged QB. Do you regard that as a one off outlier that doesn't speak to Geno's intellect or what about his personality/attitude makes him hold onto the ball 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage while he runs out of bounds when a flick of the wrist will save him 10 yards? I worked at a facility with kids and young adults coming in and out of the system. Criminals, mental health, FAS, shitheads, etc. Some of them were quite smart. But if you put those kids in a bad environment with the wrong people - they start doing stupid things and making dumb choices. Those same kids also made good decisions and smart choices in better environments with the right support. You're cherry picking his lowlights, and i can't explain them. He's been a bone head on multiple occasions in his career... but consider the 2013-2014 environment/situation and all it's toxicity. Is it really that shocking that a guy who was national humiliated last summer, took the field unexpectedly against OAK - and tried to over compensate? I don't particularly like Geno, i think he's made too many bad choices. But he's still a Jet, and as long as he is - i'm gonna continue to hope he can turn a corner and start to make those smart choices... cause I think he's capable of being really good if he can get out of his own way. Bullshit. Your dicks hard over fucking Geno. And don't even try to deny it. You've got a sick obsession with him. But im going light on him until the season because....see post above. Or last post on previous page
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Post by Paradis on May 18, 2016 21:46:23 GMT -5
I worked at a facility with kids and young adults coming in and out of the system. Criminals, mental health, FAS, shitheads, etc. Some of them were quite smart. But if you put those kids in a bad environment with the wrong people - they start doing stupid things and making dumb choices. Those same kids also made good decisions and smart choices in better environments with the right support. You're cherry picking his lowlights, and i can't explain them. He's been a bone head on multiple occasions in his career... but consider the 2013-2014 environment/situation and all it's toxicity. Is it really that shocking that a guy who was national humiliated last summer, took the field unexpectedly against OAK - and tried to over compensate? I don't particularly like Geno, i think he's made too many bad choices. But he's still a Jet, and as long as he is - i'm gonna continue to hope he can turn a corner and start to make those smart choices... cause I think he's capable of being really good if he can get out of his own way. Bullshit. Your dicks hard over fucking Geno. And don't even try to deny it. You've got a sick obsession with him. But im going light on him until the season because....see post above. Or last post on previous page Lol. You're my favorite. Truth be told I do have a Geno jersey from 2013
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on May 19, 2016 7:54:30 GMT -5
Bullshit. Your dicks hard over fucking Geno. And don't even try to deny it. You've got a sick obsession with him. But im going light on him until the season because....see post above. Or last post on previous page Lol. You're my favorite. Truth be told I do have a Geno jersey from 2013 Honestly, we saw Geno as a rookie and geno with idzik' non existent WR corp. I want to c the guy with real NFL WRs who can actually get open and catch. Might be interesting. Now he really screwed himself with the fight last year and certainly hasn't shown that he's anything close to the answer. But, Fitz will b as exciting as a Irish potato. Mediocre, boring season. No playoffs and a crappy pick. 7-9 or worse. I may not even watch the team if he's the QB.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 10:49:47 GMT -5
I worked at a facility with kids and young adults coming in and out of the system. Criminals, mental health, FAS, shitheads, etc. Some of them were quite smart. But if you put those kids in a bad environment with the wrong people - they start doing stupid things and making dumb choices. Those same kids also made good decisions and smart choices in better environments with the right support. You're cherry picking his lowlights, and i can't explain them. He's been a bone head on multiple occasions in his career... but consider the 2013-2014 environment/situation and all it's toxicity. Is it really that shocking that a guy who was national humiliated last summer, took the field unexpectedly against OAK - and tried to over compensate? I don't particularly like Geno, i think he's made too many bad choices. But he's still a Jet, and as long as he is - i'm gonna continue to hope he can turn a corner and start to make those smart choices... cause I think he's capable of being really good if he can get out of his own way. Bullshit. Your dicks hard over fucking Geno. And don't even try to deny it. You've got a sick obsession with him. But im going light on him until the season because....see post above. Or last post on previous page You could definitely be a teacher at St Mary's. Your brand of compassionate, all-out aggression when pointing others towards the light...breathtaking.
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Post by thebigragu on May 20, 2016 10:51:03 GMT -5
I'll tell you one thing. If Geno becomes by some rare cosmic fucking accident a great QB Paradis will be fucking unbearable for years. I had the same dumb obsession with Cromartie in fact i still do.
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Post by thebigragu on May 20, 2016 10:54:01 GMT -5
Bullshit. Your dicks hard over fucking Geno. And don't even try to deny it. You've got a sick obsession with him. But im going light on him until the season because....see post above. Or last post on previous page You could definitely be a teacher at St Mary's. Your brand of compassionate, all-out aggression when pointing others towards the light...breathtaking. Im not a hand holder. Im a fucking life giver. Remember that you motherfucker you. When the shit goes down im the guy you want standing next to you. Not fucking smiling Joel Olsteen
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Post by Paradis on May 20, 2016 10:58:01 GMT -5
I'll tell you one thing. If Geno becomes by some rare cosmic fucking accident a great QB Paradis will be fucking unbearable for years. I had the same dumb obsession with Cromartie in fact i still do. Haha fuck off. I've hardly been a Geno apologist... Would I rather Geno be awesome than a shit-cake? Of course. But I'd also lose zero sleep if he was vaporized by accident. My soul and heart died the second we passed on Paxton. Back to worshipping female bush.
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Post by Harrier on May 20, 2016 11:02:53 GMT -5
I'll tell you one thing. If Geno becomes by some rare cosmic fucking accident a great QB Paradis will be fucking unbearable for years. I had the same dumb obsession with Cromartie in fact i still do. Haha fuck off. I've hardly been a Geno apologist... Would I rather Geno be awesome than a shit-cake? Of course. But I'd also lose zero sleep if he was vaporized by accident. My soul and heart died the second we passed on Paxton. Back to worshipping female bush. Fuck Fitz and Geno. All in on Hack.
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Post by thebigragu on May 20, 2016 11:04:13 GMT -5
I'll tell you one thing. If Geno becomes by some rare cosmic fucking accident a great QB Paradis will be fucking unbearable for years. I had the same dumb obsession with Cromartie in fact i still do. Haha fuck off. I've hardly been a Geno apologist... Would I rather Geno be awesome than a shit-cake? Of course. But I'd also lose zero sleep if he was vaporized by accident. My soul and heart died the second we passed on Paxton. Back to worshipping female bush. I'll be honest. I think the fuck is going to shine. He has to have something we never seen before. I'm rarely wrong about these types of assholes. But his whole personality changed last year. Talent was never his problem. His ego and grandiose attitude were. He seems humbled. In my life experiences that means usually a new better person. A humbled talented young man in the nfl playing QB could be money all day. We'll see if im right
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Post by thebigragu on May 20, 2016 11:06:40 GMT -5
Haha fuck off. I've hardly been a Geno apologist... Would I rather Geno be awesome than a shit-cake? Of course. But I'd also lose zero sleep if he was vaporized by accident. My soul and heart died the second we passed on Paxton. Back to worshipping female bush. Fuck Fitz and Geno. All in on Hack. You'll switch to anything new and shiny. Fuck Fitz is right. What he did was unreasonable unforgettable and unforgivable. Geno not yet. Not yet
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Post by Harrier on May 20, 2016 11:16:10 GMT -5
Fuck Fitz and Geno. All in on Hack. You'll switch to anything new and shiny. Fuck Fitz is right. What he did was unreasonable unforgettable and unforgivable. Geno not yet. Not yet When your options are Geno and Fitz you're damn fuckin right I'll switch to somethin new and shiny. It's not just because he's the new kid on the block, there's a lot I like about his game, kids a brain of untapped potential.
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Post by thebigragu on May 20, 2016 11:19:39 GMT -5
You'll switch to anything new and shiny. Fuck Fitz is right. What he did was unreasonable unforgettable and unforgivable. Geno not yet. Not yet When your options are Geno and Fitz you're damn fuckin right I'll switch to somethin new and shiny. It's not just because he's the new kid on the block, there's a lot I like about his game, kids a brain of untapped potential. So was mark sanchez im not holding my breath. From now on we use a qb until he becomes goodbto great or we shoot him. That's the wording that should be in the contract. They get 3 years. By the 4 year the guns loaded and waiting
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Post by Harrier on May 20, 2016 11:21:21 GMT -5
When your options are Geno and Fitz you're damn fuckin right I'll switch to somethin new and shiny. It's not just because he's the new kid on the block, there's a lot I like about his game, kids a brain of untapped potential. So was mark sanchez im not holding my breath. From now on we use a qb until he becomes goodbto great or we shoot him. That's the wording that should be in the contract. They get 3 years. By the 4 year the guns loaded and waiting I was hopin we could find some common ground and be on the same side of the fence with Hack after the Fitz/Geno debates of old, now you're pullin this Geno lovin shit on me.
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Post by Harrier on May 20, 2016 11:46:01 GMT -5
So to summarize....
I supported Geno. You Fitz.
My opinion....
Geno: all the physical tools to be a QB in this league, no wepinz and in a Rex Ryan offense, admittedly terrible leader.
Fitz: Smart but lacks the physical ability to clinch a playoff birth, career backup who is limited with a below average arm who has cashed in on being a choke artist.
Your opinion.....
Geno: Dumb as a cow, terrible leader, terrible attitude.
Fitz: Warrior whose arm strength is urban Myth.
Now a 360 to Geno just as we draft a kid who actually has an NFL brain to go with his NFL arm?
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Post by Gunnails on May 20, 2016 19:29:00 GMT -5
The coaches will start whom ever they thinks gives us the best chance, or at least I can only hope they will.
If the Jets feel they need to resign Fitz and start him, then I am disappoint. I've come to view resigning Fitz as a step back in the sense that there is no future with him.
To me Geno is on par with Fitz by my eyes (statically similar in most fields except TD/INT) and has way more upside, and he is under contract, and cheap, a deep threat, and can run. He's flashed
In my dream world Hack comes to camp with the play book down cold, shows he has fixed his footwork and accuracy, and owns camp and wins the job running away.
But if Petty wins the camp I want him to start, Geno wins he starts.
We shall see.
Who ever gets the start will have some nice weapons to work with and a D to back them up. Jets could even make some noise this season.
We shall see.
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