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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 9:34:26 GMT -5
I'm fine with this....and they are going to suck next year....and I'm fine with that as well. Everyone needs to temper expectations because this front office and coach are building for 2017-2020, years 3 through 5 of their contracts. They're not going to blatantly admit it, but I have no doubt in my mind that they're willing to accept 2 steps back this year to take 3 steps forward in 2017. Are you willing to make a bet that the Jets win less than 8 games this year? I'm willing to do it if you are. Let's see how tough you are now. Put your money where your mouth is. Frankly, I don't understand the point of your response...but that's not surprising because most of what you say is fucking stupid to begin with. Now, I don't mean to go all SAR I on everyone here.....but I've got plenty of money and am always willing to "put my money where my mouth is". But I will never, ever bet on my team to lose. I may think they'll lose, but I'm not betting on them to lose. You always bitch and whine up a storm (mostly for attention) about posters not being true fans....but true fans don't bet against their teams. Dumbass
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Post by jetfrantik on May 17, 2016 11:58:36 GMT -5
Jets are 20/1 to win the AFC championship. Worth a shot. On that HBO thing on Namath,a cop and his friend bet against the Jets vs. Raiders in the AFC Championship because he saw Joe Willie and his girlfriend walk out of a hotel the morning of the game. That was really dumb!
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Post by Harrier on May 17, 2016 12:20:07 GMT -5
One day the Jets will be Leicester City.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on May 17, 2016 12:35:22 GMT -5
Are you willing to make a bet that the Jets win less than 8 games this year? I'm willing to do it if you are. Let's see how tough you are now. Put your money where your mouth is. Frankly, I don't understand the point of your response...but that's not surprising because most of what you say is fucking stupid to begin with. Now, I don't mean to go all SAR I on everyone here.....but I've got plenty of money and am always willing to "put my money where my mouth is". But I will never, ever bet on my team to lose. I may think they'll lose, but I'm not betting on them to lose. You always bitch and whine up a storm (mostly for attention) about posters not being true fans....but true fans don't bet against their teams. Dumbass Who said you'd be voting against your team? You'd be making an objective over/under bet on how many games a single NFL team will win. You're extremely confident that the Jets will do poorly? Well I'm extremely confident that the Jets will do well. Let's make a bet, set up a Paypal to clear the transaction, and get it over with. I'm game if you are. Fact is, you're a rich punk who got called out (and quite frankly, based on your reading comprehension, I seriously doubt you are as rich as you claim, or even a lawyer to begin with). You're the fucking idiot here if you honestly can't get the point of my response. I pretty much laid it out there in plain English.
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Post by Paradis on May 17, 2016 19:15:40 GMT -5
I guess you have to ask yourself, had Fitz (under Rex and Marty) started the same games in 2013-2014... how would he have looked? Cause Fitz has certainly looked like a bag of dogshit at points of his career. So the question I ask; why is Fitz allowed to be "good in this system" but shit everywhere else, yet it's impossible that Geno was partially a product of the system/coaching he was under during his time? There's no 2016 version of Fitz that's lights out. Why would we not want to see what Geno/Petty look like in 2016 before making major roster decisions in 2017? Because Gailey's system, as I understand it, places emphasis on the mental side of a QB's game rather than giving him simple reads and asking him to make difficult throws. I'm guessing this is also why they had Hackenburg rated so high. Geno does have ability but he has physical ability only, he understands very little if at all of what is going on around him. Of course the only thing that's giving me pause is the fact that Geno seemed to be the front runner before he got his jaw shattered and it was this coaching staff who thought he would be better than Fitzy so maybe there is hope. But even if there is its very little unless he has somehow matured and gotten smarter in the past year. I've never been a Geno fan but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until the Raiders game. İt was like the SD game for vick. He showed that he either doesn't care or he is just dumb as a rock. I keep beating this dead horse but its still relevant; a third year QB does not run out of bounds with the ball in his hands 10 yards behind the LoS. That to me is a cuttable offense and who he plays with (receivers etc.) has no bearing on such an idiotic error. You're confusing intelligence with attitude/personality (ironically).... Geno scores well (cognitively speaking)... Gailey's system is not beyond him, it's actually quite simple. It's specific, but not complicated. His decision making is not worse than Fitzpatrick in 10/12 other years when he appeared with CIN, STL, TEN etc... I'm sorry, but you basically posted a bunch of bullshit. You don't like Geno, that's cool - but don't bake me a shit pie and tell me it's apple.
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Post by Jets Things on May 17, 2016 21:50:09 GMT -5
Because Gailey's system, as I understand it, places emphasis on the mental side of a QB's game rather than giving him simple reads and asking him to make difficult throws. I'm guessing this is also why they had Hackenburg rated so high. Geno does have ability but he has physical ability only, he understands very little if at all of what is going on around him. Of course the only thing that's giving me pause is the fact that Geno seemed to be the front runner before he got his jaw shattered and it was this coaching staff who thought he would be better than Fitzy so maybe there is hope. But even if there is its very little unless he has somehow matured and gotten smarter in the past year. I've never been a Geno fan but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until the Raiders game. İt was like the SD game for vick. He showed that he either doesn't care or he is just dumb as a rock. I keep beating this dead horse but its still relevant; a third year QB does not run out of bounds with the ball in his hands 10 yards behind the LoS. That to me is a cuttable offense and who he plays with (receivers etc.) has no bearing on such an idiotic error. You're confusing intelligence with attitude/personality (ironically).... Geno scores well (cognitively speaking)... Gailey's system is not beyond him, it's actually quite simple. It's specific, but not complicated. His decision making is not worse than Fitzpatrick in 10/12 other years when he appeared with CIN, STL, TEN etc... I'm sorry, but you basically posted a bunch of bullshit. You don't like Geno, that's cool - but don't bake me a shit pie and tell me it's apple. What if the person who baked the pie recently ate apples?
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Post by Paradis on May 17, 2016 22:20:38 GMT -5
You're confusing intelligence with attitude/personality (ironically).... Geno scores well (cognitively speaking)... Gailey's system is not beyond him, it's actually quite simple. It's specific, but not complicated. His decision making is not worse than Fitzpatrick in 10/12 other years when he appeared with CIN, STL, TEN etc... I'm sorry, but you basically posted a bunch of bullshit. You don't like Geno, that's cool - but don't bake me a shit pie and tell me it's apple. What if the person who baked the pie recently ate apples?
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Post by The Turk on May 18, 2016 7:33:09 GMT -5
Because Gailey's system, as I understand it, places emphasis on the mental side of a QB's game rather than giving him simple reads and asking him to make difficult throws. I'm guessing this is also why they had Hackenburg rated so high. Geno does have ability but he has physical ability only, he understands very little if at all of what is going on around him. Of course the only thing that's giving me pause is the fact that Geno seemed to be the front runner before he got his jaw shattered and it was this coaching staff who thought he would be better than Fitzy so maybe there is hope. But even if there is its very little unless he has somehow matured and gotten smarter in the past year. I've never been a Geno fan but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until the Raiders game. İt was like the SD game for vick. He showed that he either doesn't care or he is just dumb as a rock. I keep beating this dead horse but its still relevant; a third year QB does not run out of bounds with the ball in his hands 10 yards behind the LoS. That to me is a cuttable offense and who he plays with (receivers etc.) has no bearing on such an idiotic error. You're confusing intelligence with attitude/personality (ironically).... Geno scores well (cognitively speaking)... Gailey's system is not beyond him, it's actually quite simple. It's specific, but not complicated. His decision making is not worse than Fitzpatrick in 10/12 other years when he appeared with CIN, STL, TEN etc... I'm sorry, but you basically posted a bunch of bullshit. You don't like Geno, that's cool - but don't bake me a shit pie and tell me it's apple. OK I'm willing to look past that you called me dumb for no reason at all when all I was trying to do was engage you in what I thought was an intelligent conversation but as you said I get easily confused. That's all fine and dandy if that's the way you get your rocks off go ahead just explain one thing to me; I posted a very specific example about the cognetively smart but attitude/personalitywise challenged QB. Do you regard that as a one off outlier that doesn't speak to Geno's intellect or what about his personality/attitude makes him hold onto the ball 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage while he runs out of bounds when a flick of the wrist will save him 10 yards?
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Post by Paradis on May 18, 2016 8:39:34 GMT -5
You're confusing intelligence with attitude/personality (ironically).... Geno scores well (cognitively speaking)... Gailey's system is not beyond him, it's actually quite simple. It's specific, but not complicated. His decision making is not worse than Fitzpatrick in 10/12 other years when he appeared with CIN, STL, TEN etc... I'm sorry, but you basically posted a bunch of bullshit. You don't like Geno, that's cool - but don't bake me a shit pie and tell me it's apple. OK I'm willing to look past that you called me dumb for no reason at all when all I was trying to do was engage you in what I thought was an intelligent conversation but as you said I get easily confused. That's all fine and dandy if that's the way you get your rocks off go ahead just explain one thing to me; I posted a very specific example about the cognetively smart but attitude/personalitywise challenged QB. Do you regard that as a one off outlier that doesn't speak to Geno's intellect or what about his personality/attitude makes him hold onto the ball 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage while he runs out of bounds when a flick of the wrist will save him 10 yards? I worked at a facility with kids and young adults coming in and out of the system. Criminals, mental health, FAS, shitheads, etc. Some of them were quite smart. But if you put those kids in a bad environment with the wrong people - they start doing stupid things and making dumb choices. Those same kids also made good decisions and smart choices in better environments with the right support. You're cherry picking his lowlights, and i can't explain them. He's been a bone head on multiple occasions in his career... but consider the 2013-2014 environment/situation and all it's toxicity. Is it really that shocking that a guy who was national humiliated last summer, took the field unexpectedly against OAK - and tried to over compensate? I don't particularly like Geno, i think he's made too many bad choices. But he's still a Jet, and as long as he is - i'm gonna continue to hope he can turn a corner and start to make those smart choices... cause I think he's capable of being really good if he can get out of his own way.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 9:35:47 GMT -5
You guys simply aren't true Jet fans if you agree with this assclown. That's a fact. I, for one, am damn proud to be a fan of this team and fully expect them to win at least 10 games this season. Anyone who disagrees can take a backseat. No you can get in the trunk fuckhead. This isn't a fucking glitter and rainbow blown up your ass jet site. We're actual dickheads that supported these fucking jerkoffs over 20 30 years by going to games and buying their bullshit. Anyone here can tear the Jets a new asshole anytime they fucking please. It's the same fucking bullshit every fucking year QB QB QB QB QB QB QB QB. You want to dance in the fucking streets over Geno knock yourself out Hey we were talking in the abstract. I meant no harm to any Jets fans. Is that thing loaded sir? This is just a conversation. I was definitely drinking some Genot kool aid. wow
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Post by The Turk on May 18, 2016 9:38:12 GMT -5
OK I'm willing to look past that you called me dumb for no reason at all when all I was trying to do was engage you in what I thought was an intelligent conversation but as you said I get easily confused. That's all fine and dandy if that's the way you get your rocks off go ahead just explain one thing to me; I posted a very specific example about the cognetively smart but attitude/personalitywise challenged QB. Do you regard that as a one off outlier that doesn't speak to Geno's intellect or what about his personality/attitude makes him hold onto the ball 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage while he runs out of bounds when a flick of the wrist will save him 10 yards? I worked at a facility with kids and young adults coming in and out of the system. Criminals, mental health, FAS, shitheads, etc. Some of them were quite smart. But if you put those kids in a bad environment with the wrong people - they start doing stupid things and making dumb choices. Those same kids also made good decisions and smart choices in better environments with the right support. You're cherry picking his lowlights, and i can't explain them. He's been a bone head on multiple occasions in his career... but consider the 2013-2014 environment/situation and all it's toxicity. Is it really that shocking that a guy who was national humiliated last summer, took the field unexpectedly against OAK - and tried to over compensate? I don't particularly like Geno, i think he's made too many bad choices. But he's still a Jet, and as long as he is - i'm gonna continue to hope he can turn a corner and start to make those smart choices... cause I think he's capable of being really good if he can get out of his own way. Fair enough. I've just seen the bonehead move one too many times from him to think that the "dumb" is an outlier as opposed to the trend. But here's hoping I'm wrong as it looks like we'll get to find out this year whether we like it or not.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 9:46:52 GMT -5
One day the Jets will be Leicester City. More like MO-Leicester City, AMIRITE?
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on May 18, 2016 18:29:45 GMT -5
No you can get in the trunk fuckhead. This isn't a fucking glitter and rainbow blown up your ass jet site. We're actual dickheads that supported these fucking jerkoffs over 20 30 years by going to games and buying their bullshit. Anyone here can tear the Jets a new asshole anytime they fucking please. It's the same fucking bullshit every fucking year QB QB QB QB QB QB QB QB. You want to dance in the fucking streets over Geno knock yourself out I'm sorry, but you're being way too hard on the Jets. They are not as bad as you think. I've been a fan for a while and don't feel that the Jets are owed anything or have particularly bad luck relative to other squads. It's simply the luck of the draw; only one of 32 teams can win it each year, and compared to other sports leagues, the NFL has an unusually large amount of parity across the individual teams. Quite frankly, I think it's very short-sighted to suggest that it's all about the QB and nothing else. Last I checked, the Jets didn't win anything with good QB play from O'Brien, Vinny, Chad or Favre. This fanbase, in particular, has a chronic whining, woe-is-me syndrome unmatched by the vast majority of fanbases around the league. In comparison to other teams, we really don't have it as bad as some of you would think. This made me laugh. Face it - Jets are definitely one of the worst franchises in the NFL. Better than the lions and ... The Detroit Lions. Probably one or two other loser franchises but I can't think of any right now. 0-4 in AFC championship games since the merger (losers couldn't even get to the SB to lose it). Some of the worst most bone headed drafts ever going back 40 years. It's not just luck - some franchises are perennial winners because they are run by smart football people who make good moves and pick good players. We have been run by incompetent boobs - one after the other after the other. Wake up. Embrace the suck. And, this year is gonna b a long one. People waiting on fitz? He wasn't good enough last year and won't b this year either. Hoping for a surprise so we'll see but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by Yankees45 on May 18, 2016 18:50:32 GMT -5
OK I'm willing to look past that you called me dumb for no reason at all when all I was trying to do was engage you in what I thought was an intelligent conversation but as you said I get easily confused. That's all fine and dandy if that's the way you get your rocks off go ahead just explain one thing to me; I posted a very specific example about the cognetively smart but attitude/personalitywise challenged QB. Do you regard that as a one off outlier that doesn't speak to Geno's intellect or what about his personality/attitude makes him hold onto the ball 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage while he runs out of bounds when a flick of the wrist will save him 10 yards? I worked at a facility with kids and young adults coming in and out of the system. Criminals, mental health, FAS, shitheads, etc. Some of them were quite smart. But if you put those kids in a bad environment with the wrong people - they start doing stupid things and making dumb choices. Those same kids also made good decisions and smart choices in better environments with the right support. You're cherry picking his lowlights, and i can't explain them. He's been a bone head on multiple occasions in his career... but consider the 2013-2014 environment/situation and all it's toxicity. Is it really that shocking that a guy who was national humiliated last summer, took the field unexpectedly against OAK - and tried to over compensate? I don't particularly like Geno, i think he's made too many bad choices. But he's still a Jet, and as long as he is - i'm gonna continue to hope he can turn a corner and start to make those smart choices... cause I think he's capable of being really good if he can get out of his own way. Great fuckin post I'm on the same boat
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Post by thebigragu on May 18, 2016 20:50:13 GMT -5
I'll be honest the only reason im giving Geno a last chance again is because I see his tweets and he's got a close relationship with God. Very humble in some of his posts. Think he's a born again. That's close enough
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