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Post by southside on Jul 6, 2016 17:15:35 GMT -5
People who carry now (as compared to your career) are not as well educated on gun safety, I think we can agree, no? Who are you to make this statement? What facts do you have to even base that statement? Your liberal bs is getting annoying and I'm not even political.
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Post by 32Green on Jul 6, 2016 17:56:48 GMT -5
Per the NY POST: Man killed by Louisiana cops was armed: officials
The black man shot to death by Louisiana cops as he was pinned to the ground was armed when he tussled with those responding officers, authorities said Wednesday.
Baton Rouge Police Chief Carl Dabadie Jr. said he’s already been in contact with the FBI and US Justice Department, which will take the lead in investigating Tuesday morning’s controversial shooting.
Protests broke out in Baton Rouge on Tuesday night following the fatal altercation between police and 37-year-old Alton Sterling, as he sold CDs and DVDs outside a convenience store earlier in the day.
Cops were called at about 12:35 a.m., responding to a disturbance call “from someone who stated that a black male selling CDs and wearing a red sweatshirt threatened them with a gun,” Dabadie said.
“When officers arrived, Sterling was armed and the altercation ensued that resulted in the loss of his life,” the city’s top cop added."
Honestly, the constant referral to this guy as a "black man" is fucking irresponsible and latently racist in and of itself; It automatically confers racial motives to whatever actions the cops took and somehow implies that there is something implicitly wrong whenever a "black man" comes into contact with a white police officer...despite the fact they are assigned there and were called to the scene by a complainant.....anyhoo, any comments from those who feel this convicted felon and pedophile was executed? Still comfortable judging these guys based upon some facebook vid an outraged lob puke is circulating in hopes to incite the masses? You notice the eejits exclaiming "omg" and "they shot him" at the end of the vid were calmly and silently filming these cops fighting for their lives until it all went bad? Any comment on that? They were there prior to the cops arrival, probably had knowledge of this guy being armed...and were willing to watch the cops get killed. This fvcken country is so fvcked. Good grief. As stated previously, I'd like to hear all the facts. The original video is impossible to decipher. If he PULLED a gun, game over. From the video he appeared to already be subdued and under their control. I could be wrong. I thought I read after he was shot they pulled it from his pocket. And as crazy as it may sound, him being a pedophile and owning child support is irrelevant to this incident. (Legally.) Makes him a reprehensible scumbag but cant justify and unjustifiable shooting (if indeed it was unjustifiable.) The law is equal for sinner and saints. Maybe the gas station footage show more. Would be nice. Since you asked, I'll comment on the people watching. (Risking your ire.) Ascribing those motives "willing to watch the cops get killed" to people you never met is a bit much. I'm guessing they were simply bored. Do you think the police would advise they jump into the fray? (Do you think they should have?) I was always under the impression that cops never want civilians to get involved. Im not on any side here, other than the truth. No of course his record has nothing to do with this..but as you yourself alluded to as regarding legal permit holders..it informs his pattern of behaviour making none of this surprising...Subdued and under control? The cop that was screaming was still struggling and yelling as the shots went off and "the victim" was still not cuffed...the dude had a gun on him...As for your other comments...I cant change that sort of thinking. We'll agree to disagree. Probably for the millionth time I will post these words...I once thought like you..then I walked a mile in those guys shoes. I've also been to over 50 cop funerals in the last 30 or so years. I am admittedly biased.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jul 6, 2016 18:16:48 GMT -5
Are me and Nancy Reagan the only ones that don't know what a pizza roll is? You've lived a sheltered life VTN IFrom the name, I was picturing something roll-like in nature, like a braciole or rollatini or something. Those don't look very roll-y. More like pizza pillows. I guess you could say I've lived a sheltered life - i don't shop in those center aisles, ever. Those don't look like very dangerous weapons either - unless you eat them.
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Post by Gunnails on Jul 6, 2016 19:34:54 GMT -5
=============================================== Never heard of them. I assume some sort of Italian something.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 21:03:54 GMT -5
As stated previously, I'd like to hear all the facts. The original video is impossible to decipher. If he PULLED a gun, game over. From the video he appeared to already be subdued and under their control. I could be wrong. I thought I read after he was shot they pulled it from his pocket. And as crazy as it may sound, him being a pedophile and owning child support is irrelevant to this incident. (Legally.) Makes him a reprehensible scumbag but cant justify and unjustifiable shooting (if indeed it was unjustifiable.) The law is equal for sinner and saints. Maybe the gas station footage show more. Would be nice. Since you asked, I'll comment on the people watching. (Risking your ire.) Ascribing those motives "willing to watch the cops get killed" to people you never met is a bit much. I'm guessing they were simply bored. Do you think the police would advise they jump into the fray? (Do you think they should have?) I was always under the impression that cops never want civilians to get involved. Im not on any side here, other than the truth. No of course his record has nothing to do with this..but as you yourself alluded to as regarding legal permit holders..it informs his pattern of behaviour making none of this surprising...Subdued and under control? The cop that was screaming was still struggling and yelling as the shots went off and "the victim" was still not cuffed...the dude had a gun on him...As for your other comments...I cant change that sort of thinking. We'll agree to disagree. Probably for the millionth time I will post these words...I once thought like you..then I walked a mile in those guys shoes. I've also been to over 50 cop funerals in the last 30 or so years. I am admittedly biased. I can never know as much as you do about this that's for sure, so I'll defer to your expertise on the situation. Seeing a video can't match living through it. Now as I watch it again, I can see your point. As I said, I don't envy the balancing act cops have to do.
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Post by Trades on Jul 6, 2016 21:57:03 GMT -5
When the Police tell you to do something just fucking do it. Argue about it later when you get to court. Whether its a cop or a wife, my advice to all is, dont argue, just say yes sir, yes maam, and figure it out later. I just told my daughter who is now driving age this tonight. I also told her not to threaten people with an illegal gun even if they don't want the Eagles Greatest Hits on CD or a bootleg DVD of Finding Dory for a price that is a steal.
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Post by 32Green on Jul 6, 2016 22:07:12 GMT -5
No of course his record has nothing to do with this..but as you yourself alluded to as regarding legal permit holders..it informs his pattern of behaviour making none of this surprising...Subdued and under control? The cop that was screaming was still struggling and yelling as the shots went off and "the victim" was still not cuffed...the dude had a gun on him...As for your other comments...I cant change that sort of thinking. We'll agree to disagree. Probably for the millionth time I will post these words...I once thought like you..then I walked a mile in those guys shoes. I've also been to over 50 cop funerals in the last 30 or so years. I am admittedly biased. I can never know as much as you do about this that's for sure, my point is..I dont know...I wasnt there...and neither were millions of others who are weighing in on this and are desperate to make it a racial lynching based upon some vids....We've seen false narratives fall before...recently with Michael Brown where the initial hands up dont shoot narrative turned out to have been a fleeing felon robber high on drugs (who had attacked a defenseless store owner... then attacked a cop)...the Feds were dying to turn that into a racially motivated assassination and couldnt do it.
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Post by Trades on Jul 6, 2016 22:10:40 GMT -5
I can never know as much as you do about this that's for sure, my point is..I dont know...I wasnt there...and neither were millions of others who are weighing in on this and are desperate to make it a racial lynching based upon some vids....We've seen false narratives fall before...recently with Michael Brown where the initial hands up dont shoot narrative turned out to have been a fleeing felon robber high on drugs (who had attacked a defenseless store owner... then attacked a cop)... the Feds were dying to turn that into a racially motivated assassination and couldnt do it. If this ^ doesn't tell you who the real racists are I don't know what does.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 22:12:02 GMT -5
I can never know as much as you do about this that's for sure, my point is..I dont know...I wasnt there...and neither were millions of others who are weighing in on this and are desperate to make it a racial lynching based upon some vids....We've seen false narratives fall before...recently with Michael Brown where the initial hands up dont shoot narrative turned out to have been a fleeing felon robber high on drugs (who had attacked a defenseless store owner... then attacked a cop)...the Feds were dying to turn that into a racially motivated assassination and couldnt do it. I meant your understanding of whether he was subdued or not. Your a cop, I'm a graphic designer. When the logo talk starts, I'm your man.
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Post by Trades on Jul 6, 2016 22:14:35 GMT -5
my point is..I dont know...I wasnt there...and neither were millions of others who are weighing in on this and are desperate to make it a racial lynching based upon some vids....We've seen false narratives fall before...recently with Michael Brown where the initial hands up dont shoot narrative turned out to have been a fleeing felon robber high on drugs (who had attacked a defenseless store owner... then attacked a cop)...the Feds were dying to turn that into a racially motivated assassination and couldnt do it. I meant your understanding of whether he was subdued or not. Your a cop, I'm a graphic designer. When the logo talk starts, I'm your man. What if the logo was brandishing a gun? Oh No! Look Assault Rifles!!!!
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 22:16:20 GMT -5
I meant your understanding of whether he was subdued or not. Your a cop, I'm a graphic designer. When the logo talk starts, I'm your man. What if the logo was brandishing a gun? Oh No! Look Assault Rifles!!!! That's way too busy, needs to be simplified. I'd be happy to discuss a rebranding program with you.
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Post by 32Green on Jul 6, 2016 22:19:46 GMT -5
my point is..I dont know...I wasnt there...and neither were millions of others who are weighing in on this and are desperate to make it a racial lynching based upon some vids....We've seen false narratives fall before...recently with Michael Brown where the initial hands up dont shoot narrative turned out to have been a fleeing felon robber high on drugs (who had attacked a defenseless store owner... then attacked a cop)...the Feds were dying to turn that into a racially motivated assassination and couldnt do it. I meant your understanding of whether he was subdued or not. Your a cop, I'm a graphic designer. When the logo talk starts, I'm your man. Subdued....schmubdued....Graphic Designer.....thats always something I thought would be cool to do. I hope you are doing well with it. I could always draw well.. but recoiled from doing anything "artsy" because I feared not being able to make a living..and I had no balls to just do it.
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Post by 32Green on Jul 6, 2016 22:23:14 GMT -5
What if the logo was brandishing a gun? Oh No! Look Assault Rifles!!!! That's way too busy, needs to be simplified. I'd be happy to discuss a rebranding program with you. Presentation... "Accessories" by FF2@
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 22:33:32 GMT -5
I meant your understanding of whether he was subdued or not. Your a cop, I'm a graphic designer. When the logo talk starts, I'm your man. Subdued....schmubdued....Graphic Designer.....thats always something I thought would be cool to do. I hope you are doing well with it. I could always draw well.. but recoiled from doing anything "artsy" because I feared not being able to make a living..and I had no balls to just do it. My dad did it so I knew you could make a living. And I had no other discernible talent. It looked like I could get paid to play with magic markers. Instead, like everyone else I stare at a monitor, frying my brain as my muscles atrophy. 5 more years tops.
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Post by 32Green on Jul 6, 2016 22:40:06 GMT -5
Subdued....schmubdued....Graphic Designer.....thats always something I thought would be cool to do. I hope you are doing well with it. I could always draw well.. but recoiled from doing anything "artsy" because I feared not being able to make a living..and I had no balls to just do it. My dad did it so I knew you could make a living. And I had no other discernible talent. It looked like I could get paid to play with magic markers. Instead, like everyone else I stare at a monitor, frying my brain as my muscles atrophy. 5 more years tops. We all have our paths. Get to 5 in good health, dweebus.
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