I don't have a problem with letting him sit but how freakin hard would it be to have him work on his mechanics? I'm so pissed off that they haven't been working on this since day one.
With all the other CURRENT issues we have setting aside time to work with a third/fourth string QB during the season isnt a priority, nor should it be.
You know what our biggest CURRENT issue is this year? We don't have a QB. You know what our biggest issue is the last 5 years? We haven't had a QB. You know what our biggest issue is in the last 40 years has been? We haven't had a QB. Silly me for wanting the Jets to actually hire someone to work on our QBs biggest problem. This team is run by morons.
Last Edit: Dec 2, 2016 10:15:47 GMT -5 by bxjetfan
With all the other CURRENT issues we have setting aside time to work with a third/fourth string QB during the season isnt a priority, nor should it be.
You know what our biggest CURRENT issue is this year? We don't have a QB. You know what our biggest issue is the last 5 years? We haven't had a QB. You know what our biggest issue is in the last 40 years has been? We haven't had a QB. Silly me for wanting the Jets to actually hire someone to work on our QBs biggest problem. This team is run by morons.
Dont be rediculous...we all know we need a qb...tell me something I dont know.
I also know that if your novice, project, skittish QB isnt ready, you are getting burned over the top repeatedly, you have ZERO pass rush, your receivers are dropping the ball, your kickers are missing kicks, your offensive line is a swinging gate and your "top of the line" defensive line is getting minimal pressure, you have to pick and choose what you have time to work on DURING the season. Let's just be realistic, the past 40 years has nothing to do with what you have time to do THIS season.
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You know what our biggest CURRENT issue is this year? We don't have a QB. You know what our biggest issue is the last 5 years? We haven't had a QB. You know what our biggest issue is in the last 40 years has been? We haven't had a QB. Silly me for wanting the Jets to actually hire someone to work on our QBs biggest problem. This team is run by morons.
Dont be rediculous...we all know we need a qb...tell me something I dont know.
I also know that if your novice, project, skittish QB isnt ready, you are getting burned over the top repeatedly, you have ZERO pass rush, your receivers are dropping the ball, your kickers are missing kicks, your offensive line is a swinging gate and your "top of the line" defensive line is getting minimal pressure, you have to pick and choose what you have time to work on DURING the season. Let's just be realistic, the past 40 years has nothing to do with what you have time to do THIS season.
So the Jets can't multi task? We can't invest 100K in a guy to work on Hack and Pettys mechanics? A QBs mechanics and footwork are built on repetition to give the muscle memory. It has to be second nature for them. It seems to me that having them work on it for a year would embed solid fundamentals in their memory/footwork. When you wait a year now you have Hack, a year later in the off season, counting 1 pass, 1 2 3 pass 1 2 3 4 5 pass, and 1234567 pass. That should have been the first thing he worked on. If you can't throw the ball accurately, you can't be a franchise QB. Reading a defense, knowing the playbook, being a good teammate, all of it doesn't matter if you can't throw the ball accurately.
How about we, as an organization, actually try to develop the most fundamental skill to being a sound QB first? Throwing the fucking football. If the guy can't do that, everything else doesn't matter.
Dont be rediculous...we all know we need a qb...tell me something I dont know.
I also know that if your novice, project, skittish QB isnt ready, you are getting burned over the top repeatedly, you have ZERO pass rush, your receivers are dropping the ball, your kickers are missing kicks, your offensive line is a swinging gate and your "top of the line" defensive line is getting minimal pressure, you have to pick and choose what you have time to work on DURING the season. Let's just be realistic, the past 40 years has nothing to do with what you have time to do THIS season.
So the Jets can't multi task? We can't invest 100K in a guy to work on Hack and Pettys mechanics? A QBs mechanics and footwork are built on repetition to give the muscle memory. It has to be second nature for them. It seems to me that having them work on it for a year would embed solid fundamentals in their memory/footwork. When you wait a year now you have Hack, a year later in the off season, counting 1 pass, 1 2 3 pass 1 2 3 4 5 pass, and 1234567 pass. That should have been the first thing he worked on. If you can't throw the ball accurately, you can't be a franchise QB. Reading a defense, knowing the playbook, being a good teammate, all of it doesn't matter if you can't throw the ball accurately.
How about we, as an organization, actually try to develop the most fundamental skill to being a sound QB first? Throwing the fucking football. If the guy can't do that, everything else doesn't matter.
maybe he just fucking SUCKS and a 100k a year guy isnt enough to help him. Maybe the level of instruction that he requires isnt a part time thing, maybe they are keeping him involved with what everyone else is doing while it is live and happening now because all the part time coaching in the world aint gonna cut it and they already know it...all I'm saying is, if he is the project that everyone seems to think he is...and if there is even the slightest chance that not playing him or touching him until after the season can bring us long term success then I'm on board. I've spent 40 plus years of watching quick fixes for the jets...the shyt aint working...not here anyway.
Last Edit: Dec 2, 2016 13:50:47 GMT -5 by jets.penguin
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This kid did show some potential until he was put in a bad system behind a swiss cheese offensive line. After which he spent most of his time running for his life, .
OR maybe the problem the whole time was Hackenburg.
The Nitany Lions in their first year sans-Hack are in the playoff race, and Big 10 championship. You know who isn't? Michigan and Ohio State. That's how good Pen state is without Christian Hackenfuck... I'm simplying things of course, but those are the facts.
Maybe Bowles is smart and he doesn't want neither Petty or Hack out there in this offense with the media sharks swirling waiting to declare them busts.
Let's face it, our O-line and RB situation is not ideal to be throwing any young QB out there right now, Breno is injured again, Mangold is banged up and Ijalana has no place protecting the blind side for an unproven rook.
There's a reason Dak and Carr look as good as they do, the Raiders have given up a league low 13 sacks. I'm starting to think Macc and Bowles at least want to give Petty or Hack a chance back there by building the line this offseason.
So the Jets can't multi task? We can't invest 100K in a guy to work on Hack and Pettys mechanics? A QBs mechanics and footwork are built on repetition to give the muscle memory. It has to be second nature for them. It seems to me that having them work on it for a year would embed solid fundamentals in their memory/footwork. When you wait a year now you have Hack, a year later in the off season, counting 1 pass, 1 2 3 pass 1 2 3 4 5 pass, and 1234567 pass. That should have been the first thing he worked on. If you can't throw the ball accurately, you can't be a franchise QB. Reading a defense, knowing the playbook, being a good teammate, all of it doesn't matter if you can't throw the ball accurately.
How about we, as an organization, actually try to develop the most fundamental skill to being a sound QB first? Throwing the fucking football. If the guy can't do that, everything else doesn't matter.
maybe he just fucking SUCKS and a 100k a year guy isnt enough to help him. Maybe the level of instruction that he requires isnt a part time thing, maybe they are keeping him involved with what everyone else is doing while it is live and happening now because all the part time coaching in the world aint gonna cut it and they already know it...all I'm saying is, if he is the project that everyone seems to think he is...and if there is even the slightest chance that not playing him or touching him until after the season can bring us long term success then I'm on board. I've spent 40 plus years of watching quick fixes for the jets...the shyt aint working...not here anyway.
Hacks issue is that he can't throw the ball. He did well in Obriens pro style offense and he can read a D. Why put off for a year working on his mechanics when he could have gotten thousands of reps in so it would have been second nature for him.
Maybe he does suck. But why wouldn't you work on the guys single biggest deficiency right off the bat. It doesn't take anything away from the coaching staff and he could get in 100 reps a day easy. I just don't get it.
Dont be rediculous...we all know we need a qb...tell me something I dont know.
I also know that if your novice, project, skittish QB isnt ready, you are getting burned over the top repeatedly, you have ZERO pass rush, your receivers are dropping the ball, your kickers are missing kicks, your offensive line is a swinging gate and your "top of the line" defensive line is getting minimal pressure, you have to pick and choose what you have time to work on DURING the season. Let's just be realistic, the past 40 years has nothing to do with what you have time to do THIS season.
So the Jets can't multi task? We can't invest 100K in a guy to work on Hack and Pettys mechanics? A QBs mechanics and footwork are built on repetition to give the muscle memory. It has to be second nature for them. It seems to me that having them work on it for a year would embed solid fundamentals in their memory/footwork. When you wait a year now you have Hack, a year later in the off season, counting 1 pass, 1 2 3 pass 1 2 3 4 5 pass, and 1234567 pass. That should have been the first thing he worked on. If you can't throw the ball accurately, you can't be a franchise QB. Reading a defense, knowing the playbook, being a good teammate, all of it doesn't matter if you can't throw the ball accurately.
How about we, as an organization, actually try to develop the most fundamental skill to being a sound QB first? Throwing the fucking football. If the guy can't do that, everything else doesn't matter.
Totally agree with this. Its infuriating. This may be the downside with hiring 'football' guys - not advocating going full Idzik, but some amount of outside the box is required if we are ever going to advance. The fact that parallel pathing is unheard of to our organization is terrifying.
But then I watch Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott and I wonder why every guy we get has to be a project.
The O line
Which is why this team needs to rebuild this oline and find a stud at RB, so when they do throw in a young QB he's set up for success.
I do wish they'd play him or Petty these last few games. There's no pressure to win, let them get actual game experience and put some things on film to work off of. Especially going against a couple teams trying to make the playoffs. I'd love to see them in that situation.