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Post by mrcoops on Jan 6, 2017 2:44:03 GMT -5
Pure Manish. The usual mix of anonymous quotes and low journalistic standards. The piling on this kid by the press and too easily-led and overly impatient fans is getting ridiculous. He was a rookie, he sat out as planned. Deal with it, people. Personally, I'll wait until we see him play in live action before writing his obituary.
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 6, 2017 7:26:10 GMT -5
I don't know how Manish is allowed in the building. At what point will the Jets have enough of his vile? And the DN is even more responsible for this crap spewimg from that pos. They are obviously encouragong the shit he's writing. What do they have to lose? How can you disprove the words of an unnamed source? When you spew shit like this, it gets people to talk about him and the Jets during a week when the Giants are getting ready for the playoffs. He knows (and his bosses at the DN) exactly what he is doing. He may be a vile, shit-spewing, piece of shit, but he's not stupid.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jan 6, 2017 8:25:16 GMT -5
lol this is getting comical. I'm actually fine with it. They're bumping casual fans expectations so low that when he finally does get on the field, everyone will be calling him the next Tom Cum guzzelling fag. Just sit back & wait. Media in NY sucks so bad because they have to create or reach for shit to write about. I can't stomach NY media anymore, this shit is just beyond a joke and a blatant attempt by this punk to sabotage his career before it's even started. The media are petrified that any QB prospect we have could turn the fortunes of this franchise around, their popularity depends on negative press. Oh yes, it's the media, not that the jets suck and hackenburg is horrible (which is what 31 other teams believed by passing on his worthless ass). The media is the real problem. Hahahaha. Yeah right, when jets are doing well the media kisses their ass. It is not he media. It is this worthless joke of an organization.
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Post by tkasper01 on Jan 6, 2017 8:25:50 GMT -5
If we can't land a Glennon or a Tyrod or a Hoyer, or pull off a cheap trade for a guy like McCarron, then bringing Geno back on a prove-it deal could be the best way to go. Agreed...I would look at Glennon/Tyrod first and if we can't land either one of them I'd bring back Geno on a short deal.... As horrible a QB as Geno is he's a better option right now then Petty or Hackenburg Draft Fournette at 6, sign Andrew Whitworth on a short deal and just become a pound and ground team with Fournette/Powell/Forte I watched this kid play a lot of football here in NC. I lived 15 miles from the school while he was there. He sucks balls. He will never be anything more than a back in my humble opinion.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 6, 2017 9:03:29 GMT -5
After two seasons of rebuilding the Jets look like they need to be completely rebuilt again.....offensive line, the secondary, going from thinking we had 4 QBs to potentially having no QBs. I'm having a very hard time finding significant positives. Good post and this is what irks me the most. He's wasted two years and millions in cap hits, some of which will be hitting next years cap to tie his hopes on Ryan Fitzpatrick. Ryan fucking Fitzpatrick!! Two years later, an argument can be made that we are in even worse shape and he's the guy calling all of the shots next year. No QB, No pass rusher, No Oline, No linebackers, No secondary, No TE, and an aging RB corps with Powell and Forte. What exactly has this guy done that should make Jets fans comfortable and trusting in his decisions. Agreed, and based on what I heard from Maccagnan a couple days ago he still doesn't get it. Or at least he is just lying to the fan base. There is no quick turn around with out stability at QB.....none. We have reached expansion team type rebuild around here. A team like the Giants can do a quick rebuild because they have stability at QB, add some defensive free agents, hit on some draft picks and you're back in the playoffs. We are so far away from that right now, we may as well be an expansion team right now. Mac better knock this draft out of the park, you can't keep pissing away draft picks and missing on premium picks.
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Post by gman on Jan 6, 2017 10:07:26 GMT -5
I can't stomach NY media anymore, this shit is just beyond a joke and a blatant attempt by this punk to sabotage his career before it's even started. The media are petrified that any QB prospect we have could turn the fortunes of this franchise around, their popularity depends on negative press. Oh yes, it's the media, not that the jets suck and hackenburg is horrible (which is what 31 other teams believed by passing on his worthless ass). The media is the real problem. Hahahaha. Yeah right, when jets are doing well the media kisses their ass. It is not he media. It is this worthless joke of an organization. As much as you may dislike Hack, this is not a valid argument. Plenty of players that go on the be good>great are passed over many times by 31 teams in the league. Just proves the draft is a crapshoot.
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Post by mrcoops on Jan 6, 2017 10:30:54 GMT -5
Oh yes, it's the media, not that the jets suck and hackenburg is horrible (which is what 31 other teams believed by passing on his worthless ass). The media is the real problem. Hahahaha. Yeah right, when jets are doing well the media kisses their ass. It is not he media. It is this worthless joke of an organization. As much as you may dislike Hack, this is not a valid argument. Plenty of players that go on the be good>great are passed over many times by 31 teams in the league. Just proves the draft is a crapshoot. Exactly. Every team in the NFL passed on Dak Prescott several times, including the one that eventually drafted him. Doesn't mean that he sucks. Even the Cowboys didn't expect much from him. He was drafted to be a 3rd stringer behind Romo and Kellen Moore. They played him because they were forced to, and now Prescott is used to hit the Jets over the head for the Hack pick, when every team passed on Prescott several times. The Cowboys weren't geniuses, they got lucky. Prescott had to play, Hack didn't. So we don't know what Hack will be yet.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Jan 6, 2017 10:48:08 GMT -5
As much as you may dislike Hack, this is not a valid argument. Plenty of players that go on the be good>great are passed over many times by 31 teams in the league. Just proves the draft is a crapshoot. Exactly. Every team in the NFL passed on Dak Prescott several times, including the one that eventually drafted him. Doesn't mean that he sucks. Even the Cowboys didn't expect much from him. He was drafted to be a 3rd stringer behind Romo and Kellen Moore. They played him because they were forced to, and now Prescott is used to hit the Jets over the head for the Hack pick, when every team passed on Prescott several times. The Cowboys weren't geniuses, they got lucky. Prescott had to play, Hack didn't. So we don't know what Hack will be yet. True. And the Cowshits actually prefered Connor Cook, but the Raiders traded up ahead of them.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jan 6, 2017 12:03:42 GMT -5
As much as you may dislike Hack, this is not a valid argument. Plenty of players that go on the be good>great are passed over many times by 31 teams in the league. Just proves the draft is a crapshoot. Exactly. Every team in the NFL passed on Dak Prescott several times, including the one that eventually drafted him. Doesn't mean that he sucks. Even the Cowboys didn't expect much from him. He was drafted to be a 3rd stringer behind Romo and Kellen Moore. They played him because they were forced to, and now Prescott is used to hit the Jets over the head for the Hack pick, when every team passed on Prescott several times. The Cowboys weren't geniuses, they got lucky. Prescott had to play, Hack didn't. So we don't know what Hack will be yet. Seems like some teams get lucky constantly, while others like the Jets never do. It's not just luck, but also making consistently smart decisions - if you do that, then more than not things will work out for you. If you make terrible stupid decisions year after year for decades (like the Jets), then things (i.e. players) will more often not work out.
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Post by MDL JET on Jan 6, 2017 13:13:26 GMT -5
Exactly. Every team in the NFL passed on Dak Prescott several times, including the one that eventually drafted him. Doesn't mean that he sucks. Even the Cowboys didn't expect much from him. He was drafted to be a 3rd stringer behind Romo and Kellen Moore. They played him because they were forced to, and now Prescott is used to hit the Jets over the head for the Hack pick, when every team passed on Prescott several times. The Cowboys weren't geniuses, they got lucky. Prescott had to play, Hack didn't. So we don't know what Hack will be yet. Seems like some teams get lucky constantly, while others like the Jets never do. It's not just luck, but also making consistently smart decisions - if you do that, then more than not things will work out for you. If you make terrible stupid decisions year after year for decades (like the Jets), then things (i.e. players) will more often not work out. That's why I don't get people blaming Mac that he hasn't found a QB yet. As if it's so easy. Unless you're talking that he needs to go trade for one like Romo or something, it's gonna take forever to draft the right guy. And it is all luck. To me, either a QB has it or he doesn't. Hope your team drafts the first QB ranked. The goal to finding your QB is to be drafting top of the draft. Jets unfortunately pride themselves in feel good wins at the end of the season that position them at the 6-15 range. Even then, draft one each year until you find one. The Browns have made the stupid decisions. Drafting away last years picks when they could've gotten Wentz or Goff. Trading up and drafting Manziel over Bridgewater and Carr. Could be the same if Lynch turns out to be a star and Hack is a bust. But nobody knows yet. Again all luck for the most part.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 6, 2017 20:45:32 GMT -5
Seems like some teams get lucky constantly, while others like the Jets never do. It's not just luck, but also making consistently smart decisions - if you do that, then more than not things will work out for you. If you make terrible stupid decisions year after year for decades (like the Jets), then things (i.e. players) will more often not work out. That's why I don't get people blaming Mac that he hasn't found a QB yet. As if it's so easy. I've grown so tired of the blind leash Macc gets. Why? What has he done exactly? We're (somehow) in worse shape than Idzik left us in. I'm still giving Macc 2017 to finish his opus -- but I wince at the "why are people blaming him" routine. Q: What is the GM's job?A: To manage the team and roster2017 Jets... is at present, a poorly managed/coached/rostered team. Do you not have to answer for your responsibilities at work?
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Post by Paradis on Jan 6, 2017 20:48:44 GMT -5
I live under the guise that after a handful of losing seasons, and a depleted roster - that part of Macc's job interview/offer was the expectation that he was going to assemble a short-term flashy team. It would probably come at the cost of cleaning house in a year or two, but Mike was told to give the fans something for nothing.
2017 will tell us all if that tale is fiction or fact. Another blunder and it's riot time.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 6, 2017 21:16:26 GMT -5
That's why I don't get people blaming Mac that he hasn't found a QB yet. As if it's so easy. I've grown so tired of the blind leash Macc gets. Why? What has he done exactly? We're (somehow) in worse shape than Idzik left us in. I'm still giving Macc 2017 to finish his opus -- but I wince at the "why are people blaming him" routine. Q: What is the GM's job?A: To manage the team and roster2017 Jets... is at present, a poorly managed/coached/rostered team. Do you not have to answer for your responsibilities at work? We are in worse shape than after Idzik's final year? Not sure if gonthat far.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 6, 2017 21:30:14 GMT -5
I've grown so tired of the blind leash Macc gets. Why? What has he done exactly? We're (somehow) in worse shape than Idzik left us in. I'm still giving Macc 2017 to finish his opus -- but I wince at the "why are people blaming him" routine. Q: What is the GM's job?A: To manage the team and roster2017 Jets... is at present, a poorly managed/coached/rostered team. Do you not have to answer for your responsibilities at work? We are in worse shape than after Idzik's final year? Not sure if gonthat far. I'm splitting hairs I suppose, idzik drafted like a butterball but gave us more cap room than we needed. After 2 years of cap room and drafting macc's done a little better in the draft department, but the cap and roster are pretty desolate.
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Post by Paradis on Jan 6, 2017 21:31:03 GMT -5
Everything is forgiven and forgotten if we managed to find a quarterback.
God help us
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