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Post by chrebet80 on Jan 25, 2017 20:13:21 GMT -5
Not going to lie, I don't know a lot about godsey. But why is everyone so high on him? Texans offense under godsey ranked 19th and 29th in the NFL. And osweiler looked like a complete bum so can he really develop qbs? And I read somewhere Obrien stripped him of his play calling duties like week 3 of the season. I'd stay away from him, but like I said I don't know much about the guy +1 to all that/ Texans o looked like pathetic crap against the flats. If they had any kind of competency at all on the O they would have bounced the cheaters. and this guy is great WHY? I think it's one of the only ppl who will take Mac's call, IMO, but like you say, don't know much about him To me it's just crazy. If you look at the Texans roster they have talent, and not just on defense. Solid offensive line, good rb, good wr corps with an elite receiver and some promising young talent, and you can't even make osweiler look serviceable? He didn't look like that in denver. Texans are a playoff team. But imagine if they had a decent offense. They could be superb bowl contenders. This bum got stripped of his playcalling duties and got shit canned. Why not hire someone who had a role in running a top 10 offense in some fashion. This smells like same old jets to me if they hire godsey.
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Post by Hotman on Jan 25, 2017 20:32:37 GMT -5
Yuuuup!
And reeks of typical Jets
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 25, 2017 21:00:14 GMT -5
Some solid interneting going on. I don't know anything about the guy, but here's why he sucks.
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Post by chrebet80 on Jan 25, 2017 21:32:49 GMT -5
Some solid interneting going on. I don't know anything about the guy, but here's why he sucks. I'm asking for someone to explain to me why he would be a good choice. Because after doing a little research on the guy he doesn't exactly get me excited. Why do you think he would be a good fit for us. What does he bring to the table.
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Post by johnnyhector on Jan 25, 2017 23:07:17 GMT -5
If he got stripped of play calling after week 3 like being reported wouldn't be his fault that offense sucked he wasn't calling plays also first 3 games 2 teams were playoff teams in KC and NE
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 26, 2017 13:16:32 GMT -5
A dark horse candidate? Would kind of jive why we hadn't heard anything.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 26, 2017 13:18:15 GMT -5
Also, is it just me or does Clements look exactly like Buscemi in that picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 13:43:41 GMT -5
We will. If Petty and Hackenburg , don't show promise we have to do whatever it takes to draft one of QB's coming out in 2018. It's a strong draft for QB's. That's why I think one of the objectives for Maccagnan should be to trade down this year. Whether we draft at 6....10...or 13....I think we'll get a guy who can compete at some position other than QB (think RB, CB, etc.). But accumulating a 2nd Round pick in 2018 by trading down this year would give the Jets some ammo next season. I'd also trade Sheldon for a 2018 pick....NOT a 2017 pick. If he could be dealt for a 3rd or 4th this year I think we could instead get a 2nd or 3rd NEXT year. Going into the 2018 draft with a 1st, 2nd, 2nd and 2nd would give the Jets some serious ammo to move around for a QB in that Draft. I don't know what to do with 91; but I do not like your "talent void/pick interval" calculus. Even with Leo as the compensating factor.
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Post by mrcoops on Jan 26, 2017 14:11:22 GMT -5
A dark horse candidate? Would kind of jive why we hadn't heard anything. That would be awesome, but I suspect he may have better options out there.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 26, 2017 14:38:54 GMT -5
Some solid interneting going on. I don't know anything about the guy, but here's why he sucks. I'm asking for someone to explain to me why he would be a good choice. Because after doing a little research on the guy he doesn't exactly get me excited. Why do you think he would be a good fit for us. What does he bring to the table. The first thing to me that says he may be a capable OC is look at 2015. I'm not sure if it was you or someone else that listed his team stat rankings, but while they don't appear to good on the surface, I think his 2015 season is very impressive. In 2015, they ranked 19th in total O. On its own, not very impressive. If you look at the pieces, 19th in the NFL seems like a miracle. 4 QBs started a game. Hoyer, Mallett, Yates and Weeden. Those QBs combined to throw for 4K and 29 TDs and 12 picks. That alone is somewhat impressive. Factor in that they were throwing to Hopkins, Cecil Shorts and Nate Washington is even more impressive. Add in the fact that the two leading rushers for that team were Alfred Blue and Chris Polk. They aren't making the passing game any easier for anyone. However, their actual production wasn't as bad as what one would think. Is that Godsey related? I don't know. My last thing I would point out is the year Hopkins had in 2015. 111 catches 1500 yards and 11 TDs. If you look at similar WRs that year, almost all of them had a strong 2nd WR around them to keep coverages honest. Hopkins didn't have a run game, QB or oth WR to help him out. That tells me that even though he was their only threat on the entire offense, they were still able to scheme him open to produce. As far as this year, he no longer called plays after week 3. Kind of odd though, the week 1 and week 2 performances ranked 6 and 7th in yardage for the Texans this year. Week 3, the shut out against the Pats, wasn't in the bottom 5 for yardage. And just off of my own personal preference, his style(or O'briens) is a style of offense I like. Power running game. Utilize the TE. Utilize play action. Short controlled routes, but using multiple formations to create natural separation for receivers. Use PA to take your big shots. That's my 2 cents.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 26, 2017 14:40:28 GMT -5
A dark horse candidate? Would kind of jive why we hadn't heard anything. That would be awesome, but I suspect he may have better options out there. I'm not so sure. Maybe with Shanahan in SF, but from what I've read, he may have been phased out in GB to make sure they kept young coaches they like.
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Post by cgjet on Jan 26, 2017 17:40:41 GMT -5
If Bowles and presumably Mac knew this was going to be Chan Gailey's last season why didn't they address the situation sooner? I realize there are a lot of intangibles such as Bowles job security but in my opinion I think the Jets should have had an heir apparent in place or at the very least someone should be focused on naming a successor very soon.
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Post by johnnyhector on Jan 26, 2017 22:06:06 GMT -5
If Bowles and presumably Mac knew this was going to be Chan Gailey's last season why didn't they address the situation sooner? I realize there are a lot of intangibles such as Bowles job security but in my opinion I think the Jets should have had an heir apparent in place or at the very least someone should be focused on naming a successor very soon. They did in Kevin patullo atleast that was the thinking when Chan picked him out for QB coach , Guess they didn't like him or maybe his big mouth
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Post by chrebet80 on Jan 27, 2017 1:11:59 GMT -5
I'm asking for someone to explain to me why he would be a good choice. Because after doing a little research on the guy he doesn't exactly get me excited. Why do you think he would be a good fit for us. What does he bring to the table. The first thing to me that says he may be a capable OC is look at 2015. I'm not sure if it was you or someone else that listed his team stat rankings, but while they don't appear to good on the surface, I think his 2015 season is very impressive. In 2015, they ranked 19th in total O. On its own, not very impressive. If you look at the pieces, 19th in the NFL seems like a miracle. 4 QBs started a game. Hoyer, Mallett, Yates and Weeden. Those QBs combined to throw for 4K and 29 TDs and 12 picks. That alone is somewhat impressive. Factor in that they were throwing to Hopkins, Cecil Shorts and Nate Washington is even more impressive. Add in the fact that the two leading rushers for that team were Alfred Blue and Chris Polk. They aren't making the passing game any easier for anyone. However, their actual production wasn't as bad as what one would think. Is that Godsey related? I don't know. My last thing I would point out is the year Hopkins had in 2015. 111 catches 1500 yards and 11 TDs. If you look at similar WRs that year, almost all of them had a strong 2nd WR around them to keep coverages honest. Hopkins didn't have a run game, QB or oth WR to help him out. That tells me that even though he was their only threat on the entire offense, they were still able to scheme him open to produce. As far as this year, he no longer called plays after week 3. Kind of odd though, the week 1 and week 2 performances ranked 6 and 7th in yardage for the Texans this year. Week 3, the shut out against the Pats, wasn't in the bottom 5 for yardage. And just off of my own personal preference, his style(or O'briens) is a style of offense I like. Power running game. Utilize the TE. Utilize play action. Short controlled routes, but using multiple formations to create natural separation for receivers. Use PA to take your big shots. That's my 2 cents. Thanks for your input. After hearing some of your arguments I can understand why he is in consideration. That being said I still think that there are better options out there. Some guys I wouldn't mind taking a run at off the top of my head... 1.David shaw (pipe dream, but would be a great replacement to take over the team when Bowles gets fired) 2.Randy Fichtner QB coach steelers 3.Jason Michael QB coach titans 4.Darryl drake WR coach cardinals 5.Dan Campbell assistant coach saints 6.Mike munchak O line coach steelers
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Post by mrcoops on Jan 27, 2017 15:59:02 GMT -5
Kevin Greene hired as OLB coach...holy shit!
That's a great signing.
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