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Post by southside on Jan 5, 2015 12:34:16 GMT -5
I'd rather draft a guy and roll the dice. Mike Glennon? Seriously?
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 12:38:16 GMT -5
I'd rather draft a guy and roll the dice. Mike Glennon? Seriously? Yeah, seriously. Who are you drafting exactly? Bryce Petty? Dak Prescott? Garrett Grayson? The odds of any of those guys ever amounting to anything more than a career backup are somewhere between slim and none. At least Glennon has a 6'6 frame, a rocket arm and has already had some success as a starting QB in the NFL.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 5, 2015 12:41:43 GMT -5
19 starts 58.8 comp% 4,025 yds 6.5 YPA 211.8 YPG 29 TDs 15 Ints 83.7 rtg
Would you take the chance on this QB?
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 5, 2015 12:42:07 GMT -5
If Glennon performed admirably and McCown sucked why would Tampa trade Glennon for only a 6th round pick? A somewhat decent back up is worth a lot more than a 6th round pick. Who knows what the hell is going through the skulls of Jason Licht and Lovie Smith? They've been botching the QB situation (and just about everything) in Tampa ever since they walked through the door. If you're planning to let Glennon rot away as the 3rd QB on the roster, then you might as well move him and get something in return. And I remember everyone saying that the Pats* were going to get a 1st or 2nd rounder for Mallett eventually...and then they basically ended up giving him away for nothing. With two cheap years left on his deal it is unlikely Tampa trades him for a 6th right now, makes no sense from Tampa's perspective.
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Post by southside on Jan 5, 2015 12:44:10 GMT -5
I'd take a flier on Brett Hundley.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 12:46:32 GMT -5
I'd take a flier on Brett Hundley. Another QB prospect whose stock has dropped because of accuracy and decision making issues? No thanks
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Post by southside on Jan 5, 2015 12:52:36 GMT -5
I'd rather take a chance on coaching up a guy with good overall numbers than a guy that has proven to be less of a player than Geno. You guys are just remembering names of players you liked coming out of college. The kid can't nail down the starting QB position on the worst team in football. 57% completions and almost a 1:1 ratio TDs to turnovers. No thanks. That's the very definition of drafting Brett Hundley and starting him and having him prove to be a shitty QB... as a worst case scenario.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 5, 2015 12:56:43 GMT -5
I'd rather take a chance on coaching up a guy with good overall numbers than a guy that has proven to be less of a player than Geno. You guys are just remembering names of players you liked coming out of college. The kid can't nail down the starting QB position on the worst team in football. 57% completions and almost a 1:1 ratio TDs to turnovers. No thanks. That's the very definition of drafting Brett Hundley and starting him and having him prove to be a shitty QB... as a worst case scenario. No, it's not just remembering guys who came out of college recently. It's realizing that the FA market for QB's is going to be total dogshit and this QB class is dreadful after Mariota and Winston. Tossing out a late round pick for a young QB with a high upside doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. And I think it was Hawkeye who suggested Ryan Mallett as a possibility, especially if we end up hiring Maccagnan from Houston as the new GM. I wouldn't be against that at all.
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Post by morite on Jan 5, 2015 12:58:23 GMT -5
Many Jet fans are arguing to keep this around:
30 starts 57.5 comp% 5,571 yds 6.9 YPA 185.7 YPG 25 TDs 34 Ints 71.5 rtg
Take away the Miami game, and they look worse. I’m in for a Glennon if available, or most anyone else for that matter.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 5, 2015 12:59:16 GMT -5
I'd rather take a chance on coaching up a guy with good overall numbers than a guy that has proven to be less of a player than Geno. You guys are just remembering names of players you liked coming out of college. The kid can't nail down the starting QB position on the worst team in football. 57% completions and almost a 1:1 ratio TDs to turnovers. No thanks. That's the very definition of drafting Brett Hundley and starting him and having him prove to be a shitty QB... as a worst case scenario. Here is an article written after UCLAs bowl game regarding Hundly, you are probably going to have to take him in the second round if you really want him. www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/24932453/nfl-draft-brett-hundley-flashes-first-round-form-in-alamo-bowl-win
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Post by ftljetfan on Jan 5, 2015 12:59:44 GMT -5
I'd rather draft a guy and roll the dice. Mike Glennon? Seriously? Yeah, seriously. Who are you drafting exactly? Bryce Petty? Dak Prescott? Garrett Grayson? The odds of any of those guys ever amounting to anything more than a career backup are somewhere between slim and none. At least Glennon has a 6'6 frame, a rocket arm and has already had some success as a starting QB in the NFL. I have to agree with you, I was hoping we drafted him instead of Geno. If we can get him for a 4th or 5th no doubt, he was dradted in the 3rd.
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Post by southside on Jan 5, 2015 13:03:21 GMT -5
So lets give up a pick for a guy that's on the exact same track as Geno? Come on guys.
What I'm saying is this: If the QB's available this year are so bad that we're resorting to Mike Glennon as a viable option then we're better off staying with Geno or Vick and revamping the OLine. Why waste time/picks on the lesser of two shitty situations? Just say fuck it, we're not going after any QBs and we're going to rebuild the foundation while we wait for one to come available.
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Post by jetswin on Jan 5, 2015 13:23:15 GMT -5
19 starts 58.8 comp% 4,025 yds 6.5 YPA 211.8 YPG 29 TDs 15 Ints 83.7 rtg Would you take the chance on this QB? he immediately becomes the best QB on the roster lol
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 5, 2015 13:25:59 GMT -5
In all seriousness he'd be good competition for Geno, but I don't think they'd let him go that easily. Great two dumbest looking fucks in the league on the same team. why not
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Post by tkasper01 on Jan 5, 2015 13:27:40 GMT -5
The Bucs are virtually guaranteed to take Mariota #1 overall and they have McCown as the veteran backup. Mike Glennon could very well be on the trade block and he could be had for dirt cheap. I think a conditional 6th rounder (5th at most) would get a deal done. Personally, I never understood why the hell this new regime in Tampa gave up on Glennon so quickly. Lovie Smith named McCown the starter as soon as the Bucs signed him and he turned out to be dreadful. After McCown got banged up, they went back to Glennon and he performed admirably...only to be swept back to the bench and McCown reinserted, who continued to look like dogshit. A 6'6 235 lb QB with a bigtime arm and surprising athletic ability to move around in the pocket. He's posted 29 TD's vs 15 INT's in his career so far and still has a high upside IMO. I'd sure as hell feel a lot better about having a young kid with a high upside competing with Geno instead of some mediocre journeyman like Matt Moore or Jason Campbell. Thoughts? I live about 15 miles from NC State. This guy is not an NFL Qb. Pass.
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